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		<title>By: Writing Roundup, June 26 &#171; Jen&#8217;s Writing Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writing Roundup, June 26 &#171; Jen&#8217;s Writing Journey</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Good Reading Recipe Another post from Dear Author, this lists the criteria they use when reviewing a book. It is an exhaustive list, and it can help you write a better book to begin with. When you are reading a draft, try to approach it using these criteria to decide how and where to revise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Good Reading Recipe Another post from Dear Author, this lists the criteria they use when reviewing a book. It is an exhaustive list, and it can help you write a better book to begin with. When you are reading a draft, try to approach it using these criteria to decide how and where to revise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: XandraG</title>
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		<dc:creator>XandraG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great breakdown, Janet.  It&#039;s hard to articulate why a book &quot;does it&quot; for you, or doesn&#039;t &quot;do it&quot; for you.  And it&#039;s helpful to both review readers and the authors of said books if they are reading the reviews to know why.  As a reader, I can be sucked into a book and read it all in one sitting, or have to get up in the middle of the night and hide the ipod under the covers to finish reading it, but still not like it.  I can love something but have no problem setting it down and coming back to it days or even weeks later.

One question I do have for you--how much of a part does Convention play in a review?

We all know there exists a set of conventions to every genre and even subgenre or subsets of a particular genre.  How often does a book&#039;s delivering on those conventions (or not) affect a reader&#039;s like or dislike of the book.  

To use an example, if you have a paranormal shapeshifter romance, there exists conventions that fans of PSR have come to expect.  There are a number, such as pack or group behavior, actual shifting, some sort of secret society, themes about family life as illustrated by a pack, and a romantic entanglement and its own associated conventions, to name a few.  Generally, if a book meets some number of all the expected conventions, it &quot;fits&quot; expectations.  But what of a book that is PSR but doesn&#039;t include enough of the conventions?  How much does that affect a review-quality look at a story?

I hope I&#039;m making sense, because I really am curious as to how much of a reader&#039;s enjoyment of a story has to do with if they&#039;re getting what they expected, which is more subjective (and may be able to be used to fine-tune promotion efforts and increase customer satisfaction with an end product)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great breakdown, Janet.  It&#8217;s hard to articulate why a book &#8220;does it&#8221; for you, or doesn&#8217;t &#8220;do it&#8221; for you.  And it&#8217;s helpful to both review readers and the authors of said books if they are reading the reviews to know why.  As a reader, I can be sucked into a book and read it all in one sitting, or have to get up in the middle of the night and hide the ipod under the covers to finish reading it, but still not like it.  I can love something but have no problem setting it down and coming back to it days or even weeks later.</p>
<p>One question I do have for you&#8211;how much of a part does Convention play in a review?</p>
<p>We all know there exists a set of conventions to every genre and even subgenre or subsets of a particular genre.  How often does a book&#8217;s delivering on those conventions (or not) affect a reader&#8217;s like or dislike of the book.  </p>
<p>To use an example, if you have a paranormal shapeshifter romance, there exists conventions that fans of PSR have come to expect.  There are a number, such as pack or group behavior, actual shifting, some sort of secret society, themes about family life as illustrated by a pack, and a romantic entanglement and its own associated conventions, to name a few.  Generally, if a book meets some number of all the expected conventions, it &#8220;fits&#8221; expectations.  But what of a book that is PSR but doesn&#8217;t include enough of the conventions?  How much does that affect a review-quality look at a story?</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m making sense, because I really am curious as to how much of a reader&#8217;s enjoyment of a story has to do with if they&#8217;re getting what they expected, which is more subjective (and may be able to be used to fine-tune promotion efforts and increase customer satisfaction with an end product)</p>
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		<title>By: kyra</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!  Just because we read romance does not mean writing style should go out the window.  I admire intelligent authors.  Sloppiness is not to be excused, especially with Google so handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!  Just because we read romance does not mean writing style should go out the window.  I admire intelligent authors.  Sloppiness is not to be excused, especially with Google so handy.</p>
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		<title>By: mia madwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mia madwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ anon

&lt;em&gt;“I seem not to be communicating well myself. Maybe I need more English lessons!”

Example of what you’re looking for right there. “I seem not to be—” The negative after the verb it’s talking about.

The native English standard would tend more toward “I don’t seem to be”&lt;/em&gt;

And my genealogy traces back to the 18th Century in Maryland!  I&#039;m relatively native as these things go.  (wink)

Thanks for the example, though.  I tend to pick up the mannerisms of my characters when I&#039;m writing, and this is one of those occasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ anon</p>
<p><em>“I seem not to be communicating well myself. Maybe I need more English lessons!”</p>
<p>Example of what you’re looking for right there. “I seem not to be—” The negative after the verb it’s talking about.</p>
<p>The native English standard would tend more toward “I don’t seem to be”</em></p>
<p>And my genealogy traces back to the 18th Century in Maryland!  I&#8217;m relatively native as these things go.  (wink)</p>
<p>Thanks for the example, though.  I tend to pick up the mannerisms of my characters when I&#8217;m writing, and this is one of those occasions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stumbling Over Chaos :: Bookcase flash! (and some other book stuff, of course)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stumbling Over Chaos :: Bookcase flash! (and some other book stuff, of course)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Author has a nice article about the components (correctness, stlye, taste) that shape a reading [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#20
&quot;I seem not to be communicating well myself. Maybe I need more English lessons!&quot;

Example of what you&#039;re looking for right there.  &quot;I seem not to be---&quot; The negative after the verb it&#039;s talking about. 

The native English standard would tend more toward &quot;I don&#039;t seem to be&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#20<br />
&#8220;I seem not to be communicating well myself. Maybe I need more English lessons!&#8221;</p>
<p>Example of what you&#8217;re looking for right there.  &#8220;I seem not to be&#8212;&#8221; The negative after the verb it&#8217;s talking about. </p>
<p>The native English standard would tend more toward &#8220;I don&#8217;t seem to be&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Essay rec: the components of reader response to a book &#171; Jules Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essay rec: the components of reader response to a book &#171; Jules Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] components of reader response to a&#160;book  Janet at the romance blog Dear Author has posted an excellent essay discussing the three main strands that go into a reader&#8217;s reactions to a book ..., noting that only one of these is objective, and considering how that can lead to misunderstandings [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] components of reader response to a&nbsp;book  Janet at the romance blog Dear Author has posted an excellent essay discussing the three main strands that go into a reader&#8217;s reactions to a book &#8230;, noting that only one of these is objective, and considering how that can lead to misunderstandings [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MaryK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because these errors are at the foundational level of reading – that is, because they greet the reader at the most basic level of comprehension – they can exacerbate problems some had with other textual elements and other response factors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is pretty important.  When I read, I embrace the author&#039;s &quot;world&quot; completely.  If errors like these start popping up, it throws me out of the &quot;world,&quot; and I lose my faith in the author&#039;s storytelling ability.  Sort of like, &quot;if I can&#039;t trust you to write a coherent sentence, how can I believe in your story?&quot;  For me, they&#039;re not just pesky technical details - they reflect on the author&#039;s authority as a writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because these errors are at the foundational level of reading – that is, because they greet the reader at the most basic level of comprehension – they can exacerbate problems some had with other textual elements and other response factors.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is pretty important.  When I read, I embrace the author&#8217;s &#8220;world&#8221; completely.  If errors like these start popping up, it throws me out of the &#8220;world,&#8221; and I lose my faith in the author&#8217;s storytelling ability.  Sort of like, &#8220;if I can&#8217;t trust you to write a coherent sentence, how can I believe in your story?&#8221;  For me, they&#8217;re not just pesky technical details &#8211; they reflect on the author&#8217;s authority as a writer.</p>
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		<title>By: mia madwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mia madwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Robin for your patience and to ashwinder, estara, sonoma lass and throwmearope for the examples and further clarification. 

As a writer this is something I&#039;ve noticed--how a character or pov can feel like it&#039;s from a foreign-born character and you can even &quot;hear the accent&quot; simply because of the author&#039;s skillful sentence structures that mimic that of the character&#039;s native tongue.  It&#039;s something I&#039;ve noticed, and so when you mentioned it, Robin, I was quick to notice.

Thank you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Robin for your patience and to ashwinder, estara, sonoma lass and throwmearope for the examples and further clarification. </p>
<p>As a writer this is something I&#8217;ve noticed&#8211;how a character or pov can feel like it&#8217;s from a foreign-born character and you can even &#8220;hear the accent&#8221; simply because of the author&#8217;s skillful sentence structures that mimic that of the character&#8217;s native tongue.  It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve noticed, and so when you mentioned it, Robin, I was quick to notice.</p>
<p>Thank you all!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Briggs</dc:creator>
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		<description>As a long-time reader, I would also say that another factor that is difficult to describe is the mood of the reader.  For example, I am a big Dick Francis fan, and the first time I read Flying Finish, I was very unhappy with it.  A couple of years later, I picked it up (as the only Dick Francis book I hadn&#039;t reread) and found I really enjoyed it.  A writer can only bring so much influence to the table -- the reader brings the other half.

I tend to be more forgiving of ebooks than I am of paper published books.  I cut new authors a lot of slack, and old favorites not so much.  Sometimes I&#039;m in the mood for a nitty gritty medieval romance (Roberta Gellis) and if I pick up a lighter one (Garwood or Dodd, for instance whom I also love) I get grumpy at them for not writing like Gellis or Kinsale, which is hardly fair.

For these reasons I seldom say I don&#039;t like a book/author unless I&#039;ve tried it multiple times. (I would not be a great reviewer ).  The exception, is, of course, when there are too many &quot;craft&quot; mistakes.  Poor research, poor grammar, poor plotting. 
Best,
Patty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long-time reader, I would also say that another factor that is difficult to describe is the mood of the reader.  For example, I am a big Dick Francis fan, and the first time I read Flying Finish, I was very unhappy with it.  A couple of years later, I picked it up (as the only Dick Francis book I hadn&#8217;t reread) and found I really enjoyed it.  A writer can only bring so much influence to the table &#8212; the reader brings the other half.</p>
<p>I tend to be more forgiving of ebooks than I am of paper published books.  I cut new authors a lot of slack, and old favorites not so much.  Sometimes I&#8217;m in the mood for a nitty gritty medieval romance (Roberta Gellis) and if I pick up a lighter one (Garwood or Dodd, for instance whom I also love) I get grumpy at them for not writing like Gellis or Kinsale, which is hardly fair.</p>
<p>For these reasons I seldom say I don&#8217;t like a book/author unless I&#8217;ve tried it multiple times. (I would not be a great reviewer ).  The exception, is, of course, when there are too many &#8220;craft&#8221; mistakes.  Poor research, poor grammar, poor plotting.<br />
Best,<br />
Patty</p>
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