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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW: To Beguile a Beast by Elizabeth Hoyt</title>
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		<title>By: Mireya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mireya</dc:creator>
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		<description>I am 2/3s into this book... I started it yesterday.  I have to say that it&#039;s one of the most beautifully written retellings of the Beauty and the Beast-like storylines I&#039;ve ever read.  It&#039;s one of my favorite types of stories.  I can&#039;t say I am a convert to this author&#039;s work yet as this is the first of her books I&#039;ve ever read, but I most definitely intend to try other books in her backlist.

On a side note, I love the changes done to this blog as it pertains to the handling of comments.  It&#039;s great to have a bit more control of my own replies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 2/3s into this book&#8230; I started it yesterday.  I have to say that it&#8217;s one of the most beautifully written retellings of the Beauty and the Beast-like storylines I&#8217;ve ever read.  It&#8217;s one of my favorite types of stories.  I can&#8217;t say I am a convert to this author&#8217;s work yet as this is the first of her books I&#8217;ve ever read, but I most definitely intend to try other books in her backlist.</p>
<p>On a side note, I love the changes done to this blog as it pertains to the handling of comments.  It&#8217;s great to have a bit more control of my own replies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah MacLean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah MacLean</dc:creator>
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		<description>so so so happy to see that you gave this an A...I read it on Saturday and still can&#039;t stop thinking about how terrific it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so so so happy to see that you gave this an A&#8230;I read it on Saturday and still can&#8217;t stop thinking about how terrific it is!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished this today and I liked it a lot, but it again was missing that last spark that would have put it in the A category.

I deliberately didn&#039;t read the preview cause November is far, far away, but I&#039;m looking forward to the story. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished this today and I liked it a lot, but it again was missing that last spark that would have put it in the A category.</p>
<p>I deliberately didn&#8217;t read the preview cause November is far, far away, but I&#8217;m looking forward to the story. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit, there&#039;s an ARC of &lt;em&gt;To Desire A Devil&lt;/em&gt; up for sale on Brenda Novak Online Auction. &lt;a href=&quot;http://brendanovak.auctionanything.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&amp;Auction_uid1=1306167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;

If I had any money, I&#039;d so bid, but it&#039;s already up to $69. *sigh* Guess I&#039;ll have to wait until Nov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit, there&#8217;s an ARC of <em>To Desire A Devil</em> up for sale on Brenda Novak Online Auction. <a href="http://brendanovak.auctionanything.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&amp;Auction_uid1=1306167" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
<p>If I had any money, I&#8217;d so bid, but it&#8217;s already up to $69. *sigh* Guess I&#8217;ll have to wait until Nov.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurieF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the book yesterday. Fabulous!
Am looking forward to the next book in November.
Now I&#039;m off to read the new Suzanne Enoch and
Julia London. Budget.....what budget!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the book yesterday. Fabulous!<br />
Am looking forward to the next book in November.<br />
Now I&#8217;m off to read the new Suzanne Enoch and<br />
Julia London. Budget&#8230;..what budget!</p>
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		<title>By: Maili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discintion is with the willing or encouragement to enforce the law. 

Historically, Scottish English women wouldn&#039;t while highland women would kick a door down to assert their rights. Of course, it varied from one woman to another (and their families/friends/villages), regardless of location. Both sides had different attitudes. Highlands were all for it while lowlands disapproved. (There were lowlands women ignored the disapproval and enforced the law, but this was more common for women who had nothing to lose.) This is what I meant by &#039;cultural difference&#039;.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why the need for witnesses? Is this like the Muslim divorce where you must state the fact in front of X number of witnesses? And what canny thinking would she have to do? Reasons why she was ditching the SOB? Curious minds…..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Witnesses to support the dissatisfied wife&#039;s request for divorce; to testify that her husband hadn&#039;t been home for three or more years; to testify that the husband was adulterous, or to testify that her husband had been living at a different permanent address for a certain number of days (thirty?) 

Anything that would render her husband &quot;dead&quot; will do because it&#039;ll free her from the binding marriage with minimal fuss and without his presence. For men, it wasn&#039;t that easy. I don&#039;t know much about the history of this part, so I won&#039;t say any more. 

Canny thinking. So many examples. One extreme example: make an appeal to remove all traces of her marriage from the records of a kirk/church she was married in. If granted, she would be declared as &quot;divorced&quot;. This only worked with certain Protestent churches, though. 

One of my ancestors used this method. Her first husband galloped off to Europe with a vague promise to return within two years. After four years, she gave up on him and filed a request to recognise his &quot;death&quot;. They removed the banns and all other traces, making her single, which allowed her to marry someone else. 

(I forgot why wouldn&#039;t they just make her a widow. It may to do with the difficulty of proving that he was really dead? Might be easier to make her single? Will have to ask my uncle about that.) 

Commonest example: 
She could simply refuse to acknowledge her married name, returning to her maiden name or giving herself a new name. Witnesses will testify how long she was known by her single status and chosen name. If long enough, divorce will be granted because her husband wasn&#039;t early enough to challenge her. 

Bear it in mind, Scotland is a country where you can legitimately and easily change your name without going through a legal process. Use it long enough--or in a place where people will know you by your chosen name--will have it recognised as a legal name. Because of the casual attitude to changing names and marriages--when women died, they were buried under their maiden/birth names, not their married names. 

These are two examples of many, many! :D Hence the &lt;strike&gt;canny thinking&lt;/strike&gt; creative ways of obtaining a divorce. 

I have to say, I have no idea whether these practices had any real legal basis. Woudn&#039;t be surprised if it wasn&#039;t, but were common enough to be &quot;legally&quot; acceptable in some areas, e.g. no objections from courts, sheriffs, councils etc. 
If it wasn&#039;t legal, many didn&#039;t see a problem with manipulating the legal system to make it so. :D 

The practices died out when approaching 20th century, though. When I was a child, divorce was quite rare because it became a social taboo by then. At around that time, people just abandoned their marriages and lived with their so-called &quot;common law&quot; spouses, instead of actually divorcing to remarry.  Feh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discintion is with the willing or encouragement to enforce the law. </p>
<p>Historically, Scottish English women wouldn&#8217;t while highland women would kick a door down to assert their rights. Of course, it varied from one woman to another (and their families/friends/villages), regardless of location. Both sides had different attitudes. Highlands were all for it while lowlands disapproved. (There were lowlands women ignored the disapproval and enforced the law, but this was more common for women who had nothing to lose.) This is what I meant by &#8216;cultural difference&#8217;.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Why the need for witnesses? Is this like the Muslim divorce where you must state the fact in front of X number of witnesses? And what canny thinking would she have to do? Reasons why she was ditching the SOB? Curious minds…..</p></blockquote>
<p>Witnesses to support the dissatisfied wife&#8217;s request for divorce; to testify that her husband hadn&#8217;t been home for three or more years; to testify that the husband was adulterous, or to testify that her husband had been living at a different permanent address for a certain number of days (thirty?) </p>
<p>Anything that would render her husband &#8220;dead&#8221; will do because it&#8217;ll free her from the binding marriage with minimal fuss and without his presence. For men, it wasn&#8217;t that easy. I don&#8217;t know much about the history of this part, so I won&#8217;t say any more. </p>
<p>Canny thinking. So many examples. One extreme example: make an appeal to remove all traces of her marriage from the records of a kirk/church she was married in. If granted, she would be declared as &#8220;divorced&#8221;. This only worked with certain Protestent churches, though. </p>
<p>One of my ancestors used this method. Her first husband galloped off to Europe with a vague promise to return within two years. After four years, she gave up on him and filed a request to recognise his &#8220;death&#8221;. They removed the banns and all other traces, making her single, which allowed her to marry someone else. </p>
<p>(I forgot why wouldn&#8217;t they just make her a widow. It may to do with the difficulty of proving that he was really dead? Might be easier to make her single? Will have to ask my uncle about that.) </p>
<p>Commonest example:<br />
She could simply refuse to acknowledge her married name, returning to her maiden name or giving herself a new name. Witnesses will testify how long she was known by her single status and chosen name. If long enough, divorce will be granted because her husband wasn&#8217;t early enough to challenge her. </p>
<p>Bear it in mind, Scotland is a country where you can legitimately and easily change your name without going through a legal process. Use it long enough&#8211;or in a place where people will know you by your chosen name&#8211;will have it recognised as a legal name. Because of the casual attitude to changing names and marriages&#8211;when women died, they were buried under their maiden/birth names, not their married names. </p>
<p>These are two examples of many, many! :D Hence the <strike>canny thinking</strike> creative ways of obtaining a divorce. </p>
<p>I have to say, I have no idea whether these practices had any real legal basis. Woudn&#8217;t be surprised if it wasn&#8217;t, but were common enough to be &#8220;legally&#8221; acceptable in some areas, e.g. no objections from courts, sheriffs, councils etc.<br />
If it wasn&#8217;t legal, many didn&#8217;t see a problem with manipulating the legal system to make it so. :D </p>
<p>The practices died out when approaching 20th century, though. When I was a child, divorce was quite rare because it became a social taboo by then. At around that time, people just abandoned their marriages and lived with their so-called &#8220;common law&#8221; spouses, instead of actually divorcing to remarry.  Feh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you really want to go there? :D Joking aside and informally speaking, obtaining divorce was relatively easy and cheaper (comparing with England’s process). It can be obtained without (usually) husband’s knowledge, too. It required a couple of witnesses and some canny thinking on the dissatisfied wife’s part, though. This is as much as I know. For statistics and that sort, I’m the worst person to rely on. :D&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I guess not. I was just wondering if it was as difficult as the the law passed through the House of Lords that the English had to endure. 

Why the need for witnesses? Is this like the Muslim divorce where you must state the fact in front of X number of witnesses? And what canny thinking would she have to do? Reasons why she was ditching the SOB? Curious minds.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you really want to go there? :D Joking aside and informally speaking, obtaining divorce was relatively easy and cheaper (comparing with England’s process). It can be obtained without (usually) husband’s knowledge, too. It required a couple of witnesses and some canny thinking on the dissatisfied wife’s part, though. This is as much as I know. For statistics and that sort, I’m the worst person to rely on. :D</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I guess not. I was just wondering if it was as difficult as the the law passed through the House of Lords that the English had to endure. </p>
<p>Why the need for witnesses? Is this like the Muslim divorce where you must state the fact in front of X number of witnesses? And what canny thinking would she have to do? Reasons why she was ditching the SOB? Curious minds&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I should have clarified that I was referring to the cultural difference, rather than legal difference, between Highlanders and Lowlanders. Thanks for calling me on it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Legal differences? How so? Or is this another can of worms I&#039;m opening now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I should have clarified that I was referring to the cultural difference, rather than legal difference, between Highlanders and Lowlanders. Thanks for calling me on it. </p></blockquote>
<p>Legal differences? How so? Or is this another can of worms I&#8217;m opening now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; When Alistair talked about how Lady Grey had greeted him after coming home, I totally got choked up. I’m such a wuss sometimes. :p&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I&#039;m a wuss too, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> When Alistair talked about how Lady Grey had greeted him after coming home, I totally got choked up. I’m such a wuss sometimes. :p</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m a wuss too, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Maili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maili</dc:creator>
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		<description>@Tumperkin 
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure about earlier than that and the distinction she mentions between Highlander and Lowlanders though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I should have clarified that I was referring to the cultural difference, rather than legal difference, between Highlanders and Lowlanders. Thanks for calling me on it. 

I feel that highlanders had a very relaxed attitude towards social conventions and structure (yet very strict about certain customs) while lowlanders -- especially the Edinburgh/Border lot were a bit more, erm, traditional? 

@Jayne
&lt;blockquote&gt;When I checked the internet, I found that handfasting was legal until the 1940s in Scotland. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Legal? Really? I always understood it as a myth with no legal basis. At best it was a folk custom, like the Maypole dance. Who knew? Where on the internet did you find that? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;How easy or hard was it to divorce in Scotland in the 18/19th C if a couple had been married in a religious ceremony?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Do you really want to go there? :D  Joking aside and informally speaking, obtaining divorce was relatively easy and cheaper (comparing with England&#039;s process). It can be obtained without (usually) husband&#039;s knowledge, too. It required a couple of witnesses and some canny thinking on the dissatisfied wife&#039;s part, though.  This is as much as I know. For statistics and that sort, I&#039;m the worst person to rely on. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tumperkin </p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not sure about earlier than that and the distinction she mentions between Highlander and Lowlanders though.</p></blockquote>
<p>I should have clarified that I was referring to the cultural difference, rather than legal difference, between Highlanders and Lowlanders. Thanks for calling me on it. </p>
<p>I feel that highlanders had a very relaxed attitude towards social conventions and structure (yet very strict about certain customs) while lowlanders &#8212; especially the Edinburgh/Border lot were a bit more, erm, traditional? </p>
<p>@Jayne</p>
<blockquote><p>When I checked the internet, I found that handfasting was legal until the 1940s in Scotland. </p></blockquote>
<p>Legal? Really? I always understood it as a myth with no legal basis. At best it was a folk custom, like the Maypole dance. Who knew? Where on the internet did you find that? </p>
<blockquote><p>How easy or hard was it to divorce in Scotland in the 18/19th C if a couple had been married in a religious ceremony?</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you really want to go there? :D  Joking aside and informally speaking, obtaining divorce was relatively easy and cheaper (comparing with England&#8217;s process). It can be obtained without (usually) husband&#8217;s knowledge, too. It required a couple of witnesses and some canny thinking on the dissatisfied wife&#8217;s part, though.  This is as much as I know. For statistics and that sort, I&#8217;m the worst person to rely on. :D</p>
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