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		<title>By: The Not-so-deep Thoughts &#187; TT #35: WTF 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Not-so-deep Thoughts &#187; TT #35: WTF 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 13 Ravenous Romance courtesy of Jill Elaine Hughes/Jamaica Layne. Some writers need to learn marketing departments exist within companies for a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why I&#8217;m Not Wild About Ravenous Romance &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why I&#8217;m Not Wild About Ravenous Romance &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 10:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were told that Ravenous was going to &#8220;blow the competition right out of the water from very early on.&#8221; No other epublisher knew what it was doing or had [...]</description>
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		<title>By: REVIEW: Knight Moves by Jamaica Layne &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>REVIEW: Knight Moves by Jamaica Layne &#124; Dear Author: Romance Novel Reviews, Industry News, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ravenous Romance first appeared on my radar, I blogged about it and you were quick to come to inform us readers that this new epress would &#8220;blow the competition out the water from very early on.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ravenous Romance first appeared on my radar, I blogged about it and you were quick to come to inform us readers that this new epress would &#8220;blow the competition out the water from very early on.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Just Because It&#8217;s Got the Name, Doesn&#8217;t Mean It&#8217;s the Same &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Because It&#8217;s Got the Name, Doesn&#8217;t Mean It&#8217;s the Same &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to answer the question before it&#8217;s asked, yes, this post is partially a response to the ongoing Ravenous Romance discussion.  And no, I don&#8217;t know for sure that the books [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to answer the question before it&#8217;s asked, yes, this post is partially a response to the ongoing Ravenous Romance discussion.  And no, I don&#8217;t know for sure that the books [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Start Up EPress Sending Lots of Unsolicited Emails to Authors and Readers &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Start Up EPress Sending Lots of Unsolicited Emails to Authors and Readers &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] remember that Ravenous Romance promises to blow other epresses out of the water. You might also remember one of its biggest cheerleaders is Jill Elaine Hughes or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Kuzminski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Kuzminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion thus far is quite interesting. P&amp;E has been interested in how this has been developing for a bit of time now. For now, we&#039;re still neutral since it&#039;s only been announced that Ms. Perkins is editing an anthology. Of course that could be of more interest to P&amp;E if she&#039;s to be a permanent editor, but even that would not be sufficient for P&amp;E to recommend against her simply because she has an excellent track record in sales. P&amp;E&#039;s criteria about editing was primarily developed to help writers know when to avoid bad agents who were interested only in making money out of the writer&#039;s wallet based on faulty assumptions and false hopes for obtaining representation. So far, we see some honest disclosures and that&#039;s good.

Furthermore, the publishing house is a trade publisher and not a vanity outfit. P&amp;E&#039;s criteria does not penalize agents for owning a portion of an honest trade publisher. We see a conflict only when a vanity house is involved, though there remains a possibility of a conflict of interest in other situations.

While P&amp;E will continue to monitor this event, I antifipate that P&amp;E&#039;s criteria will evolve based on how this develops and what other facts emerge. Regardless of how it settles out, P&amp;E&#039;s criteria will change appropriately to reflect the best advice it can offer to writers.

Dave Kuzminski, Editor
Preditors &amp; Editors (tm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion thus far is quite interesting. P&amp;E has been interested in how this has been developing for a bit of time now. For now, we&#8217;re still neutral since it&#8217;s only been announced that Ms. Perkins is editing an anthology. Of course that could be of more interest to P&amp;E if she&#8217;s to be a permanent editor, but even that would not be sufficient for P&amp;E to recommend against her simply because she has an excellent track record in sales. P&amp;E&#8217;s criteria about editing was primarily developed to help writers know when to avoid bad agents who were interested only in making money out of the writer&#8217;s wallet based on faulty assumptions and false hopes for obtaining representation. So far, we see some honest disclosures and that&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the publishing house is a trade publisher and not a vanity outfit. P&amp;E&#8217;s criteria does not penalize agents for owning a portion of an honest trade publisher. We see a conflict only when a vanity house is involved, though there remains a possibility of a conflict of interest in other situations.</p>
<p>While P&amp;E will continue to monitor this event, I antifipate that P&amp;E&#8217;s criteria will evolve based on how this develops and what other facts emerge. Regardless of how it settles out, P&amp;E&#8217;s criteria will change appropriately to reflect the best advice it can offer to writers.</p>
<p>Dave Kuzminski, Editor<br />
Preditors &amp; Editors &#8482;</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Fried Chicas &#187; Raising the Bar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southern Fried Chicas &#187; Raising the Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not the television show. Dear Author has already blogged about it, twice even. And, in case you have no clue what I&#8217;m talking about, agent Lori Perkins is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do You Want to Know All of the New ePresses? &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do You Want to Know All of the New ePresses? &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] working as an editor and had a financial interest in the epress as well as agenting. In response to my blog post, an author, Jillian Hughes, came forward to announce that Ms. Perkins was her agent and that Ms. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jill Noelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Noelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So…Ravenous has huge pots of money to throw around, but not enough to hire full-time professional editors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I&#039;m reading their ad correctly, they want long-term contracts with these freelance editors, which amounts to full-time...but since they&#039;ll be contract workers, RR won&#039;t be responsible for things like unemployment taxes and benefits. The freelance contract editors would be responsible for filing and paying their own taxes (including self-employment taxes - blech), based on a 1099 they&#039;ll receive from RR at the end of their fiscal year.

Lots of big (and small) companies do this, and there are positive and negative aspects for doing so. Saves the company money - unemployment taxes can be huge, and I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s a Federal law or not, but I know in NC, if you offer one full-time &lt;b&gt;employee&lt;/b&gt; company-paid benefits, you have to offer the same benefits to &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; your full-time employees. But on the downside, you don&#039;t have as much control or leverage (only what&#039;s provided in the contract), and it doesn&#039;t build a sense of company loyalty quite the same way hiring them on as an actual employee might.

Most companies use contract workers for short-term assignments (relatively speaking), or as a stepping stone toward full-time employment. In other words, in this case, RR could use contracted freelance editors for six months or a year, weed out the poor potential employees, &quot;train&quot; the good ones on how things are done at RR - and save money (unemployment taxes, etc.) during the process. Then, once an editor or group of editors are &quot;up to speed,&quot; they can hire them on as full-time employees. This is a very common business practice. Just sayin&#039;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So…Ravenous has huge pots of money to throw around, but not enough to hire full-time professional editors.</p></blockquote>
<p>If I&#8217;m reading their ad correctly, they want long-term contracts with these freelance editors, which amounts to full-time&#8230;but since they&#8217;ll be contract workers, RR won&#8217;t be responsible for things like unemployment taxes and benefits. The freelance contract editors would be responsible for filing and paying their own taxes (including self-employment taxes &#8211; blech), based on a 1099 they&#8217;ll receive from RR at the end of their fiscal year.</p>
<p>Lots of big (and small) companies do this, and there are positive and negative aspects for doing so. Saves the company money &#8211; unemployment taxes can be huge, and I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s a Federal law or not, but I know in NC, if you offer one full-time <b>employee</b> company-paid benefits, you have to offer the same benefits to <b>all</b> your full-time employees. But on the downside, you don&#8217;t have as much control or leverage (only what&#8217;s provided in the contract), and it doesn&#8217;t build a sense of company loyalty quite the same way hiring them on as an actual employee might.</p>
<p>Most companies use contract workers for short-term assignments (relatively speaking), or as a stepping stone toward full-time employment. In other words, in this case, RR could use contracted freelance editors for six months or a year, weed out the poor potential employees, &#8220;train&#8221; the good ones on how things are done at RR &#8211; and save money (unemployment taxes, etc.) during the process. Then, once an editor or group of editors are &#8220;up to speed,&#8221; they can hire them on as full-time employees. This is a very common business practice. Just sayin&#8217;. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Anion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another add:

http://www.erecsite.com/2008/08/from-craigslist.html:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Quoted from Craiglist, found via Jan Darby at the Absolute Write forums

Ravenous Romance needs freelance copyeditors for erotic romance novels (50K words) and short stories (2500-7500 words). Quick turnaround. Interested in long-term contracts for high volume of work. 

Compensation: $200 per novel, $25 per short story 

#

Ravenous Romance needs interns to read and evaluate erotic romance novel and short story submissions and copyedit manuscripts. Must have some copyediting training and/or experience, an affinity for erotica or romance books, and great communication skills. We offer a fun work environment and great experience for your resume! 

Compensation: no pay&lt;/blockquote&gt;


So...Ravenous has huge pots of money to throw around, but not enough to hire full-time professional editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another add:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.erecsite.com/2008/08/from-craigslist.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.erecsite.com/2008/08/from-craigslist.html</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Quoted from Craiglist, found via Jan Darby at the Absolute Write forums</p>
<p>Ravenous Romance needs freelance copyeditors for erotic romance novels (50K words) and short stories (2500-7500 words). Quick turnaround. Interested in long-term contracts for high volume of work. </p>
<p>Compensation: $200 per novel, $25 per short story </p>
<p>#</p>
<p>Ravenous Romance needs interns to read and evaluate erotic romance novel and short story submissions and copyedit manuscripts. Must have some copyediting training and/or experience, an affinity for erotica or romance books, and great communication skills. We offer a fun work environment and great experience for your resume! </p>
<p>Compensation: no pay</p></blockquote>
<p>So&#8230;Ravenous has huge pots of money to throw around, but not enough to hire full-time professional editors.</p>
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