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		<title>By: Sex in Romance – Big Deal? &#171; Lurv à la Mode</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sex in Romance – Big Deal? &#171; Lurv à la Mode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Author had an excellent post about how A sexualized female is dangerous to both women and men in large enough numbers that it is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former reader of romance who is just coming back to it - I can say that the covers and titles of books often bother me.  If those where changed, then some of the &quot;bodice-ripper&quot; stereotype and the public embarressment (for lack of a better term) over those covers would disapate. Also, no matter how wonderful the content - it is difficult to take a book called &lt;em&gt;The Italian Billionaire’s Revenge on his Pregnant Virgin Mistress&lt;/em&gt; seriously, or to not feel self conscious while reading it in public!

As for reading recommends for a male?  Try Elizabeth Lowell&#039;s Donovan series, and the books that follow.  She is wonderful.  Her medievels are to die for also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former reader of romance who is just coming back to it &#8211; I can say that the covers and titles of books often bother me.  If those where changed, then some of the &#8220;bodice-ripper&#8221; stereotype and the public embarressment (for lack of a better term) over those covers would disapate. Also, no matter how wonderful the content &#8211; it is difficult to take a book called <em>The Italian Billionaire’s Revenge on his Pregnant Virgin Mistress</em> seriously, or to not feel self conscious while reading it in public!</p>
<p>As for reading recommends for a male?  Try Elizabeth Lowell&#8217;s Donovan series, and the books that follow.  She is wonderful.  Her medievels are to die for also.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that an assertive woman can&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.knockknock.biz/cgi-bin/slideshow.pl?ID=1070&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fill out the necessary form&lt;/a&gt; and have her needs taken care of in a timely fashion.

Re the genre, I don&#039;t and don&#039;t pretend to know to what to ascribe this entrenched attitude to. Perhaps it is in a large part influenced by a lingering disrespect towards the recreational interests of women and the placement of the home and hearth as secondary to the importance of the man&#039;s work place. This is a lingering cultural meme. 

Individually, we all place home and hearth first and go out and work to sustain it. Culturally though, I think that there are still vestiges of that separation of home and work that automatically put &quot;mens&#039;&quot; work outside the home over the &quot;woman&#039;s&quot; work at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that an assertive woman can&#8217;t <a href="http://www.knockknock.biz/cgi-bin/slideshow.pl?ID=1070" rel="nofollow">fill out the necessary form</a> and have her needs taken care of in a timely fashion.</p>
<p>Re the genre, I don&#8217;t and don&#8217;t pretend to know to what to ascribe this entrenched attitude to. Perhaps it is in a large part influenced by a lingering disrespect towards the recreational interests of women and the placement of the home and hearth as secondary to the importance of the man&#8217;s work place. This is a lingering cultural meme. </p>
<p>Individually, we all place home and hearth first and go out and work to sustain it. Culturally though, I think that there are still vestiges of that separation of home and work that automatically put &#8220;mens&#8217;&#8221; work outside the home over the &#8220;woman&#8217;s&#8221; work at home.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, 2 more for Dana:

-Lori Foster&#039;s &quot;Say No To Joe&quot;

-Any of Suzanne Brockmann&#039;s SEAL novels.  She has 2 series.  The Troubleshooters series is best.  They usually show the man&#039;s point-of-view.  Lots of action/suspense.  The romance elements are realistic and within a man&#039;s comfort zone, I&#039;d think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, 2 more for Dana:</p>
<p>-Lori Foster&#8217;s &#8220;Say No To Joe&#8221;</p>
<p>-Any of Suzanne Brockmann&#8217;s SEAL novels.  She has 2 series.  The Troubleshooters series is best.  They usually show the man&#8217;s point-of-view.  Lots of action/suspense.  The romance elements are realistic and within a man&#8217;s comfort zone, I&#8217;d think.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, would your husband like Diana Gabaldon?  They have lots of action/adventure/history and romance.  I think they would be enjoyed by men as well as women.  Jamie is a wonderful character and a realistic strong male.  

I think Kage Baker&#039;s cyborg &quot;Company&quot; series would work as well.  There is a strong romantic element running through the series, but nothing that would bother a man.  I don&#039;t remember any real sex scenes. (Sci Fi)

Also, what about Lois McMaster Bujold&#039;s Vorkosigan series? (also Sci Fi)

Long stretch here, but what about some of Georgette Heyer&#039;s novels with a very strong male protagonist?  Regency Buck or These Old Shades come to mind.

Linda Howard&#039;s 2-3 most recently published might work.  Strong men, strong women, lots of action.

Margaret Maron&#039;s Judge Deborah Knott series has a great romance across several novels.  I love the realistic relationship between Deborah and her husband.  (Mystery)  Also, what about Dorothy Sayers &quot;Lord Peter&quot; books?

I also agree that Nora Roberts, Susan Elizabeth Phillips and maybe Jenny Cruisie (try Bet Me first) might work.

Not exactly romance, but too good to miss is Naomi Novik&#039;s Temeraire series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, would your husband like Diana Gabaldon?  They have lots of action/adventure/history and romance.  I think they would be enjoyed by men as well as women.  Jamie is a wonderful character and a realistic strong male.  </p>
<p>I think Kage Baker&#8217;s cyborg &#8220;Company&#8221; series would work as well.  There is a strong romantic element running through the series, but nothing that would bother a man.  I don&#8217;t remember any real sex scenes. (Sci Fi)</p>
<p>Also, what about Lois McMaster Bujold&#8217;s Vorkosigan series? (also Sci Fi)</p>
<p>Long stretch here, but what about some of Georgette Heyer&#8217;s novels with a very strong male protagonist?  Regency Buck or These Old Shades come to mind.</p>
<p>Linda Howard&#8217;s 2-3 most recently published might work.  Strong men, strong women, lots of action.</p>
<p>Margaret Maron&#8217;s Judge Deborah Knott series has a great romance across several novels.  I love the realistic relationship between Deborah and her husband.  (Mystery)  Also, what about Dorothy Sayers &#8220;Lord Peter&#8221; books?</p>
<p>I also agree that Nora Roberts, Susan Elizabeth Phillips and maybe Jenny Cruisie (try Bet Me first) might work.</p>
<p>Not exactly romance, but too good to miss is Naomi Novik&#8217;s Temeraire series.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalen Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalen Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not sure how common it was for a courtesan to dictate the terms of an arrangement. Didn’t the men usually decide when to visit, and when to break off the relationship?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For actual &quot;courtesans&quot; it was not at all uncommon for the woman to dictate all sorts of limits and rules (and to have them spelled out in a signed, legal agreement!). You can find all kinds of tidbits and details about the lives of real highfliers in period journals, letters, autobiographies (aka tell-alls), etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not sure how common it was for a courtesan to dictate the terms of an arrangement. Didn’t the men usually decide when to visit, and when to break off the relationship?</p></blockquote>
<p>For actual &#8220;courtesans&#8221; it was not at all uncommon for the woman to dictate all sorts of limits and rules (and to have them spelled out in a signed, legal agreement!). You can find all kinds of tidbits and details about the lives of real highfliers in period journals, letters, autobiographies (aka tell-alls), etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took this quote from LibraryLady &quot;I read 3 books a week what have you read recently?&quot; whenever someone sneers at my cover or blinks when I tell them what I want to write. At least I&#039;m reading. Most people finish a book a month if that and here I am reading 10 to 13 and enjoying it. So to those who put down the genre let them. They don&#039;t bother me because I know what kind of wonderful women and men read romance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took this quote from LibraryLady &#8220;I read 3 books a week what have you read recently?&#8221; whenever someone sneers at my cover or blinks when I tell them what I want to write. At least I&#8217;m reading. Most people finish a book a month if that and here I am reading 10 to 13 and enjoying it. So to those who put down the genre let them. They don&#8217;t bother me because I know what kind of wonderful women and men read romance.</p>
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		<title>By: kirsten saell</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirsten saell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not sure how common it was for a courtesan to dictate the terms of an arrangement. Didn’t the men usually decide when to visit, and when to break off the relationship?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I expect a courtesan would not have been living three pennies from the gutter, and would have therefore had more financial freedom to break off a relationship, or to be more discriminating with the men she entertained.</description>
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<p>I expect a courtesan would not have been living three pennies from the gutter, and would have therefore had more financial freedom to break off a relationship, or to be more discriminating with the men she entertained.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think being a courtesan is (was?) a very different matter, in terms of social stature, lifestyle (”courtesan” implies a higher standard of living) and control over one’s own destiny.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not sure how common it was for a courtesan to dictate the terms of an arrangement.  Didn&#039;t the men usually decide when to visit, and when to break off the relationship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think being a courtesan is (was?) a very different matter, in terms of social stature, lifestyle (”courtesan” implies a higher standard of living) and control over one’s own destiny.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure how common it was for a courtesan to dictate the terms of an arrangement.  Didn&#8217;t the men usually decide when to visit, and when to break off the relationship?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder - did any of the readers who had a problem with Loretta Chase&#039;s heroine being a courtesan have a problem with the fact that the hero also whored himself? Of course, he was doing it &quot;for England&quot;, but it was actually more distasteful to me (not that either bothered me very much), because he had less choice in the matter. The heroine of &lt;em&gt;Your Scandalous Ways &lt;/em&gt;could at least choose her partners based on her own inclinations. 

I have no moral problem with prostitution, but agree that the reality of being a whore shouldn&#039;t be glamorized (as in &lt;em&gt;Pretty Woman&lt;/em&gt;). I think being a courtesan is (was?) a very different matter, in terms of social stature, lifestyle (&quot;courtesan&quot; implies a higher standard of living) and control over one&#039;s own destiny. So I&#039;m all for courtesan heroines, &quot;lax morals&quot; be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder &#8211; did any of the readers who had a problem with Loretta Chase&#8217;s heroine being a courtesan have a problem with the fact that the hero also whored himself? Of course, he was doing it &#8220;for England&#8221;, but it was actually more distasteful to me (not that either bothered me very much), because he had less choice in the matter. The heroine of <em>Your Scandalous Ways </em>could at least choose her partners based on her own inclinations. </p>
<p>I have no moral problem with prostitution, but agree that the reality of being a whore shouldn&#8217;t be glamorized (as in <em>Pretty Woman</em>). I think being a courtesan is (was?) a very different matter, in terms of social stature, lifestyle (&#8221;courtesan&#8221; implies a higher standard of living) and control over one&#8217;s own destiny. So I&#8217;m all for courtesan heroines, &#8220;lax morals&#8221; be damned.</p>
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