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	<title>Comments on: Reba Belle v. Amazon Update</title>
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		<title>By: Sinister Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinister Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is frankly frightening to think about, that an author would go to these lengths to get even with a person who wrote a non-glowing review of their book. Brrr... I definitely signed the petition!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is frankly frightening to think about, that an author would go to these lengths to get even with a person who wrote a non-glowing review of their book. Brrr&#8230; I definitely signed the petition!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Talley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Talley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you&#039;re creating problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why their is a problem in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re creating problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why their is a problem in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I am coming into the game way late, but was this issue ever resolved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I am coming into the game way late, but was this issue ever resolved?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Durward Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Durward Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon have indeed removed reviews even if they&#039;re five stars, if they don&#039;t comply with the guidelines for writing reviews. Always remember to quote author, title, ISBN, date of review and reviewer&#039;s name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon have indeed removed reviews even if they&#8217;re five stars, if they don&#8217;t comply with the guidelines for writing reviews. Always remember to quote author, title, ISBN, date of review and reviewer&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: louisev</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a very interesting discussion. I had one book published and someone I told about my book right after it went up on Amazon posted a completely bogus and silly review even though he had not read the book and the content of the review had nothing to do with the story and even quoted an erroneous author&#039;s name.  I complained by reporting the post as the book author, but the review was never taken down.  I suppose that may be because the review was &#039;four stars&#039; even though the content was complete nonsense.  Does anyone know if Amazon also refuses to remove silly nonsense reviews that are positive?  Because I complained several times and never ever got a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a very interesting discussion. I had one book published and someone I told about my book right after it went up on Amazon posted a completely bogus and silly review even though he had not read the book and the content of the review had nothing to do with the story and even quoted an erroneous author&#8217;s name.  I complained by reporting the post as the book author, but the review was never taken down.  I suppose that may be because the review was &#8216;four stars&#8217; even though the content was complete nonsense.  Does anyone know if Amazon also refuses to remove silly nonsense reviews that are positive?  Because I complained several times and never ever got a response.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an Amazon reviewer--have been for ten years.  I&#039;m growing more and more discontent with the system--both from Amazon and from people manipulating from the outside. 

This whole DAM situation has only recently come to my attention.  I had a similar problem with one of DAM&#039;s &#039;friends&#039; writing a 3 star review that was not at all unflattering.  The review disappeared and kept doing so. 

Part of the problem with Amazon is their off-shore customer service.  Any editing is done by someone in India.  

Many times a 1 or 2 star review returns with &quot;Cannot post because this is a personal opinion.&quot;  Yet, Amazon encourages you to post opinions as long as they are not disparaging.  

I&#039;m not entirely sure that after ten years of hosting customer reviews that Amazon really knows what they want or how to govern it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Amazon reviewer&#8211;have been for ten years.  I&#8217;m growing more and more discontent with the system&#8211;both from Amazon and from people manipulating from the outside. </p>
<p>This whole DAM situation has only recently come to my attention.  I had a similar problem with one of DAM&#8217;s &#8216;friends&#8217; writing a 3 star review that was not at all unflattering.  The review disappeared and kept doing so. </p>
<p>Part of the problem with Amazon is their off-shore customer service.  Any editing is done by someone in India.  </p>
<p>Many times a 1 or 2 star review returns with &#8220;Cannot post because this is a personal opinion.&#8221;  Yet, Amazon encourages you to post opinions as long as they are not disparaging.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure that after ten years of hosting customer reviews that Amazon really knows what they want or how to govern it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Durward Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Durward Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - I accept your apology but as I&#039;ve indicated to others, I won&#039;t be posting again on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum. It was set up to be a happy place away from Amazon and it clearly won&#039;t be if I continue posting there.

I will continue to lurk and I will maintain contact with some of the participants via the private message services offered within the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum, via MySpace, via this thread or via e-mail. It&#039;s not as if I will be hard for people to find.

Whatever advantages you perceive Amazon&#039;s top reviewers to have, it is completely untenable for me to continue working with you. Apart from anything else, such a perception may lead you or others to believe that I can get more out of Amazon than anybody else on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum. You say that you&#039;ve been very successful in getting Amazon to change things, which suggests that there isn&#039;t any preferential treatment for top reviewers, since you haven&#039;t yet achieved that status (though I expect you will if you continue reviewing on Amazon). You can&#039;t have it both ways.

My reasons for getting involved in this case were as follows

1) It being an extreme case, Amazon are more likely to take decisive action than they do for more mundane cases. I&#039;ve seen this previously, particularly with the &quot;delete and re-post&quot; facility. Re-posted reviews now carry the date of the original review to prevent abuse of the option. In the same way, Amazon will be forced to intervene on review abuse reporting. They introduced the automated facility because they were inundated with complaints. The &quot;Report this&quot; link presumably reduced the volume of e-mails significantly (but I don&#039;t have any information to support this) and if so, it&#039;s easy to see why Amazon are reluctant to abandon automation. But this case shows why they&#039;ll have to, at least in part.

2) It is a problem for all Amazon customers and reviewers. You&#039;ll know that reviewers have a bad reputation within some sections of Amazon&#039;s customer base. Like all reviewers, this inevitably affects me in some way thogh it&#039;s impossible to measure. Of course, there are other problems with the reviewing system, but as somebody told me, if you&#039;re going to eat an elephant, it&#039;s best to do so in small chunks.

3) My history with the chief villian. When it comes to malpractice of any kind, the same names keep coming up. (TX is another case.) If DAM isn&#039;t stopped as a result of this case, she will likely go on to commit other, more serious, offenses.

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Since getting involved, I have been impressed (for the most part) with Reba&#039;s performance. I want victory for her sake. I also want victory for all the ex- and current Highland Press authors who have suffered through their experiences with DAM.

So I have plenty of reasons to continue contributing in any way that I can, but you and I will have to each make our own separate contributions.

But the biggest contribution may yet be made by &quot;I never delete anything&quot; who claims to have incrimninating e-mails and is apparently willing to allow them to be used in evidence. I don&#039;t know if Reba has yet been able to contact that person, but I hope that contact will be established if it hasn&#039;t already been.

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Now we come to TX

I reiterate, Amazon do NOT TOLERATE plagiarism because it may lead Amazon into unwinnable lawsuits. If anybody believes that TX is guilty of plagiarism, let&#039;s have the evidence, or let the person with the evidence present it correctly to Amazon. I explained all this in my guide &lt;a href=&quot;http://peterdurwardharris.blogspot.com/2008/03/complain-to-amazon-about-reviewer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Complain to Amazon about a reviewer&lt;/a&gt;, for which I posted a link on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum, later deleted along with all my other posts there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; I accept your apology but as I&#8217;ve indicated to others, I won&#8217;t be posting again on the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum. It was set up to be a happy place away from Amazon and it clearly won&#8217;t be if I continue posting there.</p>
<p>I will continue to lurk and I will maintain contact with some of the participants via the private message services offered within the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum, via MySpace, via this thread or via e-mail. It&#8217;s not as if I will be hard for people to find.</p>
<p>Whatever advantages you perceive Amazon&#8217;s top reviewers to have, it is completely untenable for me to continue working with you. Apart from anything else, such a perception may lead you or others to believe that I can get more out of Amazon than anybody else on the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum. You say that you&#8217;ve been very successful in getting Amazon to change things, which suggests that there isn&#8217;t any preferential treatment for top reviewers, since you haven&#8217;t yet achieved that status (though I expect you will if you continue reviewing on Amazon). You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>My reasons for getting involved in this case were as follows</p>
<p>1) It being an extreme case, Amazon are more likely to take decisive action than they do for more mundane cases. I&#8217;ve seen this previously, particularly with the &#8220;delete and re-post&#8221; facility. Re-posted reviews now carry the date of the original review to prevent abuse of the option. In the same way, Amazon will be forced to intervene on review abuse reporting. They introduced the automated facility because they were inundated with complaints. The &#8220;Report this&#8221; link presumably reduced the volume of e-mails significantly (but I don&#8217;t have any information to support this) and if so, it&#8217;s easy to see why Amazon are reluctant to abandon automation. But this case shows why they&#8217;ll have to, at least in part.</p>
<p>2) It is a problem for all Amazon customers and reviewers. You&#8217;ll know that reviewers have a bad reputation within some sections of Amazon&#8217;s customer base. Like all reviewers, this inevitably affects me in some way thogh it&#8217;s impossible to measure. Of course, there are other problems with the reviewing system, but as somebody told me, if you&#8217;re going to eat an elephant, it&#8217;s best to do so in small chunks.</p>
<p>3) My history with the chief villian. When it comes to malpractice of any kind, the same names keep coming up. (TX is another case.) If DAM isn&#8217;t stopped as a result of this case, she will likely go on to commit other, more serious, offenses.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Since getting involved, I have been impressed (for the most part) with Reba&#8217;s performance. I want victory for her sake. I also want victory for all the ex- and current Highland Press authors who have suffered through their experiences with DAM.</p>
<p>So I have plenty of reasons to continue contributing in any way that I can, but you and I will have to each make our own separate contributions.</p>
<p>But the biggest contribution may yet be made by &#8220;I never delete anything&#8221; who claims to have incrimninating e-mails and is apparently willing to allow them to be used in evidence. I don&#8217;t know if Reba has yet been able to contact that person, but I hope that contact will be established if it hasn&#8217;t already been.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Now we come to TX</p>
<p>I reiterate, Amazon do NOT TOLERATE plagiarism because it may lead Amazon into unwinnable lawsuits. If anybody believes that TX is guilty of plagiarism, let&#8217;s have the evidence, or let the person with the evidence present it correctly to Amazon. I explained all this in my guide <a href="http://peterdurwardharris.blogspot.com/2008/03/complain-to-amazon-about-reviewer.html" rel="nofollow">Complain to Amazon about a reviewer</a>, for which I posted a link on the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders/index.php" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum, later deleted along with all my other posts there.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter and group here,

I offer my sincerest apologizes for losing my head earlier on that other site.  I think most know that that is not my normal manner and I&#039;m usually rather calm and patient, but I admit when I feel dismissed, devalued, or irrelevant, my worst side takes over.

I only tried to post what I thought was some kind of minor victory and a sign of improvement that Amazon was beginning to take some steps in the right direction and simply felt like I was being belittled.  Whether that was intentional or not matters little, it&#039;s simply how I felt at the time.

Peter, as I&#039;ve told you before, you are a very intelligent man, but your lack of some humility at times can be frustrating.  Of course, that doesn&#039;t excuse my conduct.  I very sincerely apologize for losing my head and becoming rude to you.  The moment just got the best of me and my
conduct was uncalled for.  Please know that I am not a grudge holder and I have fought with others from time to time and still stayed friends with them.  Hopefully, that can be said of us still.  Spouses fight and so do friends, but I would not stop posting there because of that, but I can&#039;t fault you should you decide not to post anymore, however, I will regret it would be because of my anger at one given moment.

Sincerely,
Steve</description>
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<p>I offer my sincerest apologizes for losing my head earlier on that other site.  I think most know that that is not my normal manner and I&#8217;m usually rather calm and patient, but I admit when I feel dismissed, devalued, or irrelevant, my worst side takes over.</p>
<p>I only tried to post what I thought was some kind of minor victory and a sign of improvement that Amazon was beginning to take some steps in the right direction and simply felt like I was being belittled.  Whether that was intentional or not matters little, it&#8217;s simply how I felt at the time.</p>
<p>Peter, as I&#8217;ve told you before, you are a very intelligent man, but your lack of some humility at times can be frustrating.  Of course, that doesn&#8217;t excuse my conduct.  I very sincerely apologize for losing my head and becoming rude to you.  The moment just got the best of me and my<br />
conduct was uncalled for.  Please know that I am not a grudge holder and I have fought with others from time to time and still stayed friends with them.  Hopefully, that can be said of us still.  Spouses fight and so do friends, but I would not stop posting there because of that, but I can&#8217;t fault you should you decide not to post anymore, however, I will regret it would be because of my anger at one given moment.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Durward Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Durward Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Caitrina Hunter&quot; in one of her amazing blog posts, suggested that Steve and I share a brain. The spat we had on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum will come as a shock to her. But I knew it would come at some point - I just didn&#039;t expect that it would happen as fast as it did. It is a fact that the whole issue has brought together people who would normally not be seen dead with each other. It is best for all concerned that I cease posting on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romance readers&lt;/a&gt; forum. By having registered, I can lurk and I can send private messages to the other participants, but I won&#039;t post there again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Caitrina Hunter&#8221; in one of her amazing blog posts, suggested that Steve and I share a brain. The spat we had on the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum will come as a shock to her. But I knew it would come at some point &#8211; I just didn&#8217;t expect that it would happen as fast as it did. It is a fact that the whole issue has brought together people who would normally not be seen dead with each other. It is best for all concerned that I cease posting on the <a href="http://z9.invisionfree.com/RomanceReaders" rel="nofollow">Romance readers</a> forum. By having registered, I can lurk and I can send private messages to the other participants, but I won&#8217;t post there again.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Durward Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Durward Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like a glitch, because the review is still listed among those attached to your profile page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a glitch, because the review is still listed among those attached to your profile page.</p>
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