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	<title>Comments on: Harper Collins New Studio to Test New Author Paying System</title>
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		<title>By: draft2 &#171; Diana&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/04/04/harpercollins-to-test-new-royalty-and-sales-initiative/#comment-184083</link>
		<dc:creator>draft2 &#171; Diana&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a wider base and more sales. More recently, Harper Collins has also opened a new division called Harper Studios testing new profit sharing models and has made ebooks available on the Nintendo DS. BlogHer would [...]</description>
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		<title>By: draft-blogher &#171; Diana&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>draft-blogher &#171; Diana&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a wider base and more sales. More recently, Harper Collins has also opened a new division called Harper Studios testing new profit sharing models and has made ebooks available on the Nintendo DS.   BlogHer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a wider base and more sales. More recently, Harper Collins has also opened a new division called Harper Studios testing new profit sharing models and has made ebooks available on the Nintendo DS.   BlogHer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: somenath chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/04/04/harpercollins-to-test-new-royalty-and-sales-initiative/#comment-170426</link>
		<dc:creator>somenath chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am writing a book on distance education, probable name &#039;Distance Education - An In-depth Study&#039;. If you are interested I may send you my book proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am writing a book on distance education, probable name &#8216;Distance Education &#8211; An In-depth Study&#8217;. If you are interested I may send you my book proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: feener44</title>
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		<dc:creator>feener44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a former director of finance for a publishing company, harper is looking to the future. I think the key problem is RETURNS. You do realize that B&amp;N could send books back to a pub house even if they are 2 years old. No other industry has that. It is antiquated and something needs to change. I would love to do a profit and loss for everyone to help better understand the economics both for the author and for the pub house. Feel free to contact me directly at feener44atgmaildotcom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a former director of finance for a publishing company, harper is looking to the future. I think the key problem is RETURNS. You do realize that B&amp;N could send books back to a pub house even if they are 2 years old. No other industry has that. It is antiquated and something needs to change. I would love to do a profit and loss for everyone to help better understand the economics both for the author and for the pub house. Feel free to contact me directly at feener44atgmaildotcom</p>
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		<title>By: diagonal thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Economies of the Commons Report</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/04/04/harpercollins-to-test-new-royalty-and-sales-initiative/#comment-159487</link>
		<dc:creator>diagonal thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Economies of the Commons Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be reconsidered. Economic uncertainty is driving everybody to look for new models. For example, Harpers Collins recently announced a new “publishing studio” to test some new sales strategies. Basically, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maya Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/04/04/harpercollins-to-test-new-royalty-and-sales-initiative/#comment-157582</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just re-read my post and realized I said &quot;advance&quot; when I meant &quot;royalty&quot; in the second paragraph.

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just re-read my post and realized I said &#8220;advance&#8221; when I meant &#8220;royalty&#8221; in the second paragraph.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Brennan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming in late, but I wanted to explain a bit how advances, royalties and returns work--at least in my experience. I&#039;m going to use nice round numbers because it&#039;s easier for me :)

An author gets a $20,000 advance for a mass market original. The pub does a good job and the buyers order in decent numbers and the first printing is 100,000 (we&#039;ll just assume all those shipped.)

After one year, the author sold 50,000 copies. These are actual, known sales. There are 30,000 copies returned. That means there are 20,000 copies no one knows anything about--they could have been sold, they could still be on the shelves, they could have been stolen. These copies will likely trickle in over a couple years in both the sold and stripped columns.

But the author SOLD 50,000 copies. On a $6.99 PBO, that&#039;s .56 per copy, or $28,000. This means that the author should receive a royalty check for $8,000--no matter what&#039;s going on with those 20,000 outstanding copies.

The &quot;reserve against returns&quot; is, essentially, holding a reserve against those 20,000 unknown copies. That means that the publisher isn&#039;t going to pay royalties on those books yet. Those are held usually a year (though I&#039;ve heard some publishers hold them longer) then most are released based on whatever formula the publisher is using, most likely a historical analysis of returns by that author and/or those type of books.

I have heard of one publisher who holds reserves against future returns on books sold even when the author has earned out her advance. I don&#039;t understand that, but I&#039;m not an accountant. 

If I&#039;m wrong, maybe someone else can correct me, but I believe this is the way it generally works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming in late, but I wanted to explain a bit how advances, royalties and returns work&#8211;at least in my experience. I&#8217;m going to use nice round numbers because it&#8217;s easier for me :)</p>
<p>An author gets a $20,000 advance for a mass market original. The pub does a good job and the buyers order in decent numbers and the first printing is 100,000 (we&#8217;ll just assume all those shipped.)</p>
<p>After one year, the author sold 50,000 copies. These are actual, known sales. There are 30,000 copies returned. That means there are 20,000 copies no one knows anything about&#8211;they could have been sold, they could still be on the shelves, they could have been stolen. These copies will likely trickle in over a couple years in both the sold and stripped columns.</p>
<p>But the author SOLD 50,000 copies. On a $6.99 PBO, that&#8217;s .56 per copy, or $28,000. This means that the author should receive a royalty check for $8,000&#8211;no matter what&#8217;s going on with those 20,000 outstanding copies.</p>
<p>The &#8220;reserve against returns&#8221; is, essentially, holding a reserve against those 20,000 unknown copies. That means that the publisher isn&#8217;t going to pay royalties on those books yet. Those are held usually a year (though I&#8217;ve heard some publishers hold them longer) then most are released based on whatever formula the publisher is using, most likely a historical analysis of returns by that author and/or those type of books.</p>
<p>I have heard of one publisher who holds reserves against future returns on books sold even when the author has earned out her advance. I don&#8217;t understand that, but I&#8217;m not an accountant. </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m wrong, maybe someone else can correct me, but I believe this is the way it generally works.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, we don&#039;t know enough yet to make an informed decision, but I&#039;m a bit more optimistic about this.

Right now advances are in the range of 7.5% for paperbacks and on a sliding scale for hardcover:  10% for the first 5,000 copies sold, 12.5% up to 10,000 copies sold, and 15% on all copies sold after that.

If, as Friday&#039;s Publishers Lunch said, Miller is talking about a 50/50 split, I might be willing to take that risk--provided I was comfortable that we had nailed down the accounting method for calculating profits and IF--a big &quot;if&quot;--my efforts at publicity and marketing also went into the expense side of the ledger so that I was reimbursed for my out-of-pocket expenses.

Like the people who wrote you, I am VERY interested in this.  I think it is just the start of the new publishing models we&#039;ll see floating around over the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, we don&#8217;t know enough yet to make an informed decision, but I&#8217;m a bit more optimistic about this.</p>
<p>Right now advances are in the range of 7.5% for paperbacks and on a sliding scale for hardcover:  10% for the first 5,000 copies sold, 12.5% up to 10,000 copies sold, and 15% on all copies sold after that.</p>
<p>If, as Friday&#8217;s Publishers Lunch said, Miller is talking about a 50/50 split, I might be willing to take that risk&#8211;provided I was comfortable that we had nailed down the accounting method for calculating profits and IF&#8211;a big &#8220;if&#8221;&#8211;my efforts at publicity and marketing also went into the expense side of the ledger so that I was reimbursed for my out-of-pocket expenses.</p>
<p>Like the people who wrote you, I am VERY interested in this.  I think it is just the start of the new publishing models we&#8217;ll see floating around over the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also pushing the risk onto the bookstore as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also pushing the risk onto the bookstore as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Anion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re basically correct, but most publishers only keep a certain percentage of royalties against returns--30% or so in my experience (but of course deals vary). Not the whole thing.

I think this is a &quot;wait and see&quot; thing personally. I don&#039;t love the sound of it but I don&#039;t hate it either--it&#039;s too soon to tell. It&#039;s possible royalty payouts will come on a much faster schedule under this system, for example. 

It&#039;s only one experimental new line, 25 books--and if memory serves Penguin tried something similar a few years back and it failed--so I don&#039;t think the uproar is really justified yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re basically correct, but most publishers only keep a certain percentage of royalties against returns&#8211;30% or so in my experience (but of course deals vary). Not the whole thing.</p>
<p>I think this is a &#8220;wait and see&#8221; thing personally. I don&#8217;t love the sound of it but I don&#8217;t hate it either&#8211;it&#8217;s too soon to tell. It&#8217;s possible royalty payouts will come on a much faster schedule under this system, for example. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s only one experimental new line, 25 books&#8211;and if memory serves Penguin tried something similar a few years back and it failed&#8211;so I don&#8217;t think the uproar is really justified yet.</p>
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