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		<title>By: Kay S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t understand how people can criticize reading romance when they spend all their time watching TV evening &quot;soap operas&quot; like CSI &amp; Grey&#039;s Anatomy (both of which I also like) and so-called &quot;reality&quot; shows (which I think are stupid). And what do you call James Bond novels/movies except for male sexist/escapist fiction? And should I bring up all those Travis McGee novels by John MacDonald? McGee sleeps with 2 or 3 women in each book! (I love them, BTW. The plots are fascinating -grin :) 

And I &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; those HEAs to counteract all the not-so-HEAs of the real world. I don&#039;t understand how people who watch network and cable news all the time are not all suicidal!

BTW - Nora &lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt; write short stories, as part of multi-author anthologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand how people can criticize reading romance when they spend all their time watching TV evening &#8220;soap operas&#8221; like CSI &amp; Grey&#8217;s Anatomy (both of which I also like) and so-called &#8220;reality&#8221; shows (which I think are stupid). And what do you call James Bond novels/movies except for male sexist/escapist fiction? And should I bring up all those Travis McGee novels by John MacDonald? McGee sleeps with 2 or 3 women in each book! (I love them, BTW. The plots are fascinating -grin :) </p>
<p>And I <em>need</em> those HEAs to counteract all the not-so-HEAs of the real world. I don&#8217;t understand how people who watch network and cable news all the time are not all suicidal!</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Nora <strong>does</strong> write short stories, as part of multi-author anthologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia DeMarce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia DeMarce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the issue of whether or not all fiction is escapist . . .  That was certainly the opinion of many critics of the novel as a literary form in the 19th century.  In the 1850s, one of my great-grandfathers in his diary categorized one of his cousins as &quot;a novel reader&quot; -- underlined and with an exclamation point.

For him, this meant &quot;a time waster.&quot;  It wasn&#039;t the type of novel or genre of novel -- it was reading fiction at all that he disapproved of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the issue of whether or not all fiction is escapist . . .  That was certainly the opinion of many critics of the novel as a literary form in the 19th century.  In the 1850s, one of my great-grandfathers in his diary categorized one of his cousins as &#8220;a novel reader&#8221; &#8212; underlined and with an exclamation point.</p>
<p>For him, this meant &#8220;a time waster.&#8221;  It wasn&#8217;t the type of novel or genre of novel &#8212; it was reading fiction at all that he disapproved of.</p>
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		<title>By: former B. Dalton employee</title>
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		<dc:creator>former B. Dalton employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you who appreciate Gary Farber&#039;s impassioned and fervent defense of romance novels might consider showing Gary some love via his blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amygdala&lt;/a&gt;.  Gary&#039;s up against it, financially, so anything you could do to help him out would be much appreciated, I&#039;m sure.

Disclaimer: I&#039;m not Gary, nor even a friend of his; we might have emailed each other once or twice a few years ago, but I don&#039;t think so.  I just &quot;know&quot; him via his blog and from his comments at Obsidian Wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who appreciate Gary Farber&#8217;s impassioned and fervent defense of romance novels might consider showing Gary some love via his blog <a href="http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Amygdala</a>.  Gary&#8217;s up against it, financially, so anything you could do to help him out would be much appreciated, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m not Gary, nor even a friend of his; we might have emailed each other once or twice a few years ago, but I don&#8217;t think so.  I just &#8220;know&#8221; him via his blog and from his comments at Obsidian Wings.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Peterfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Peterfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people think women read romance novels one-handed? The comparison to porn makes no sense to me. Compare to Ludlum, or L&#039;amour, or Clancy. Prolific genre writers of novels written primarily for men. 

In my generation, I see women reading while men play video games, but these days, video games have EPIC storylines that are almost like movies. (And they all read like Tolkien or Clancy, to boot!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people think women read romance novels one-handed? The comparison to porn makes no sense to me. Compare to Ludlum, or L&#8217;amour, or Clancy. Prolific genre writers of novels written primarily for men. </p>
<p>In my generation, I see women reading while men play video games, but these days, video games have EPIC storylines that are almost like movies. (And they all read like Tolkien or Clancy, to boot!)</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Dicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Dicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoteth Gary Farber:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m told this makes their work, no matter how award-winning, no matter how well-written, no matter how thoughtful, no matter how smart, no matter how insightful, no matter the depth of the character and themes, no matter how enjoyable, no matter how powerful, nothing more than &quot;novels [which] are not &#039;books&#039;, as that word is normally used. They are either tools for relaxation or the female equivalent of porn. They should therefore be compared not to War and Peace, but to either Ultimate Sudoku or the Hustler centerfold.&quot;

Works that people invest years of their life in creating are not to be allowed to be compared to Real Novels, but to &quot;Hustler centerfolds.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


WOW. He&#039;s SO right.  Maybe instead of struggling to write conflicted characters, realistic settings, compelling plots and yet still find a happy ending -- I should just paste an image of a naked man between a bookcover and call it a day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoteth Gary Farber:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m told this makes their work, no matter how award-winning, no matter how well-written, no matter how thoughtful, no matter how smart, no matter how insightful, no matter the depth of the character and themes, no matter how enjoyable, no matter how powerful, nothing more than &#8220;novels [which] are not &#8216;books&#8217;, as that word is normally used. They are either tools for relaxation or the female equivalent of porn. They should therefore be compared not to War and Peace, but to either Ultimate Sudoku or the Hustler centerfold.&#8221;</p>
<p>Works that people invest years of their life in creating are not to be allowed to be compared to Real Novels, but to &#8220;Hustler centerfolds.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>WOW. He&#8217;s SO right.  Maybe instead of struggling to write conflicted characters, realistic settings, compelling plots and yet still find a happy ending &#8212; I should just paste an image of a naked man between a bookcover and call it a day!</p>
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		<title>By: Radish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilzoy suffers from lastworditis, or has mistaken her lower jaw for a shovel -- with each subsequent comment she just dug that hole deeper and deeper.  Doesn&#039;t she know you can&#039;t win using the same tactics that made you lose in the first place? 

Sad to see someone with a track record like hers go that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilzoy suffers from lastworditis, or has mistaken her lower jaw for a shovel &#8212; with each subsequent comment she just dug that hole deeper and deeper.  Doesn&#8217;t she know you can&#8217;t win using the same tactics that made you lose in the first place? </p>
<p>Sad to see someone with a track record like hers go that way.</p>
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		<title>By: LeslieDicken.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeslieDicken.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My Newest Cover 2. Today&#8217;s Will Write for Chocolate 3. The latest in Romance Bashing 4. Can anyone learn to taste wine? 5. Can a machine see what we&#8217;re thinking? (ACK!!) 6. More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My Newest Cover 2. Today&#8217;s Will Write for Chocolate 3. The latest in Romance Bashing 4. Can anyone learn to taste wine? 5. Can a machine see what we&#8217;re thinking? (ACK!!) 6. More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HEART Gary Farber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HEART Gary Farber.</p>
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		<title>By: heather (errantdreams)</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather (errantdreams)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course not.  Cats are furry, and sit on the bookshelves.  Books are paper and sit on the floor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you for the reminder of the photo of one of my cats &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/errantcats/401257185/in/set-72157594554506260/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trying to be a bookend&lt;/a&gt; when he was a kitten. I&#039;d forgotten all about that.

And I have to say, it&#039;s been fascinating to follow this. It looks like the original discussion actually evolved into a fascinating thing rather than devolving horribly the way most internet discussions do. That&#039;s an accomplishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course not.  Cats are furry, and sit on the bookshelves.  Books are paper and sit on the floor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you for the reminder of the photo of one of my cats <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/errantcats/401257185/in/set-72157594554506260/" rel="nofollow">trying to be a bookend</a> when he was a kitten. I&#8217;d forgotten all about that.</p>
<p>And I have to say, it&#8217;s been fascinating to follow this. It looks like the original discussion actually evolved into a fascinating thing rather than devolving horribly the way most internet discussions do. That&#8217;s an accomplishment.</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie feagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephanie feagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it truly a debate?  A debate involves opinions based upon fact, yes?  If one party&#039;s opinion is based on bullshit, does it warrant the title of debate?  Or merely an argument that boils down to a ridiculous commentary on whether books are cats or sunsets?

I mean, seriously?

And I&#039;d like to publicly apologize for calling Hilzoy an asshat.  It was badly done and out of character.  I can only blame my nicotine cravings.  Or perhaps I&#039;m cranky because it is tax season and I&#039;m a CPA who&#039;s too busy to &#039;escape&#039; into the mindless porn drivel of a romance novel.  If only Nora wrote short stories - I could get off in between 1040s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it truly a debate?  A debate involves opinions based upon fact, yes?  If one party&#8217;s opinion is based on bullshit, does it warrant the title of debate?  Or merely an argument that boils down to a ridiculous commentary on whether books are cats or sunsets?</p>
<p>I mean, seriously?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d like to publicly apologize for calling Hilzoy an asshat.  It was badly done and out of character.  I can only blame my nicotine cravings.  Or perhaps I&#8217;m cranky because it is tax season and I&#8217;m a CPA who&#8217;s too busy to &#8216;escape&#8217; into the mindless porn drivel of a romance novel.  If only Nora wrote short stories &#8211; I could get off in between 1040s.</p>
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