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		<title>By: Patricia Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me for not having time to read all the comments to your interesting post.  I hope most of your readers will agree with me, but I don&#039;t expect it any more than I expect all readers to love my books. I might WANT everyone to love my babies, but it&#039;s unrealistic to expect it.  Published authors are completely aware that editors and agents are people who have migraines and bad hair days and reject manuscripts because of many and sundry reasons. Why should reviewers be any different?  It would be lovely if you were polite about your rejection (My, little Jethro has an interesting twitch, doesn&#039;t he? ), and I&#039;ll agree that trashing a book just to show a command of the English language might be self indulgent, but it&#039;s Your Blog!  I may refrain from reviewing books I don&#039;t like because it&#039;s not my job to review books, and I don&#039;t like offending fellow writers by publicizing my negative opinion.  That&#039;s my choice. It&#039;s still a free speech country here, I believe. You get to make your choices.  Just be so good as to put I Hate Pat Rice in the header so I can delete the feed before I read further. &quot;G&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for not having time to read all the comments to your interesting post.  I hope most of your readers will agree with me, but I don&#8217;t expect it any more than I expect all readers to love my books. I might WANT everyone to love my babies, but it&#8217;s unrealistic to expect it.  Published authors are completely aware that editors and agents are people who have migraines and bad hair days and reject manuscripts because of many and sundry reasons. Why should reviewers be any different?  It would be lovely if you were polite about your rejection (My, little Jethro has an interesting twitch, doesn&#8217;t he? ), and I&#8217;ll agree that trashing a book just to show a command of the English language might be self indulgent, but it&#8217;s Your Blog!  I may refrain from reviewing books I don&#8217;t like because it&#8217;s not my job to review books, and I don&#8217;t like offending fellow writers by publicizing my negative opinion.  That&#8217;s my choice. It&#8217;s still a free speech country here, I believe. You get to make your choices.  Just be so good as to put I Hate Pat Rice in the header so I can delete the feed before I read further. &#8220;G&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see Mrs. Giggles&#039; sympathetic post.  The Cassie Edwards issue exploded during my hiatus away from the blogosphere and by the time I got back, so many posts had accumulated that I didn&#039;t have time to catch up on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see Mrs. Giggles&#8217; sympathetic post.  The Cassie Edwards issue exploded during my hiatus away from the blogosphere and by the time I got back, so many posts had accumulated that I didn&#8217;t have time to catch up on them.</p>
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		<title>By: azteclady</title>
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		<dc:creator>azteclady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The comment that cracked me up most was that Mrs. Giggles’s reviews were harsh but never personal, in contrast to the rest of us evil bloggers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;When I first discovered Mrs Giggles I was shocked at how harsh she was to writers--at least, that was my perception, because of how she phrased her reviews.&lt;blockquote&gt;(...) I suspect it was her sympathetic post on Cassie Edwards that led some authors to champion her as a moderate reviewing voice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The comment that cracked me up most was that Mrs. Giggles’s reviews were harsh but never personal, in contrast to the rest of us evil bloggers.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I first discovered Mrs Giggles I was shocked at how harsh she was to writers&#8211;at least, that was my perception, because of how she phrased her reviews.<br />
<blockquote>(&#8230;) I suspect it was her sympathetic post on Cassie Edwards that led some authors to champion her as a moderate reviewing voice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If this is true, Robin, then I wonder what the reason is for that perception, because I suspect that in terms of our grading, DA is not any tougher than Mrs. Giggles or AAR.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I honestly think part of it is a general distrust of the increase in blogging, the perception that we bloggers have some kind of power, and that we&#039;re wielding it against authors.  The comment that cracked me up most was that Mrs. Giggles&#039;s reviews were harsh but never personal, in contrast to the rest of us evil bloggers.  Now I find many of Mrs. G&#039;s reviews vastly entertaining, but I don&#039;t in any way see her as kinder or gentler than the SBs or DA or most other decently trafficked Romance blogs.  Although I suspect it was her sympathetic post on Cassie Edwards that led some authors to champion her as a moderate reviewing voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If this is true, Robin, then I wonder what the reason is for that perception, because I suspect that in terms of our grading, DA is not any tougher than Mrs. Giggles or AAR.</p></blockquote>
<p>I honestly think part of it is a general distrust of the increase in blogging, the perception that we bloggers have some kind of power, and that we&#8217;re wielding it against authors.  The comment that cracked me up most was that Mrs. Giggles&#8217;s reviews were harsh but never personal, in contrast to the rest of us evil bloggers.  Now I find many of Mrs. G&#8217;s reviews vastly entertaining, but I don&#8217;t in any way see her as kinder or gentler than the SBs or DA or most other decently trafficked Romance blogs.  Although I suspect it was her sympathetic post on Cassie Edwards that led some authors to champion her as a moderate reviewing voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is true, Robin, then I wonder what the reason is for that perception, because I suspect that in terms of our grading, DA is not any tougher than Mrs. Giggles or AAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is true, Robin, then I wonder what the reason is for that perception, because I suspect that in terms of our grading, DA is not any tougher than Mrs. Giggles or AAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that&#039;s been interesting to me is watching how standards have changed, even in the few years I&#039;ve been online.  For example, Mrs. Giggles used to be seen as really extreme, but after the Edwards thing I saw authors arguing that her reviews were so much tamer and more acceptable than the SBs and DA and other blogs.  AAR has made a similar transition from being shunned by many authors to now, IMO, being true establishment. Now in some cases I think the shifting standards is a bit of revisionist history, but it&#039;s interesting nonetheless to see these different phases of online discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that&#8217;s been interesting to me is watching how standards have changed, even in the few years I&#8217;ve been online.  For example, Mrs. Giggles used to be seen as really extreme, but after the Edwards thing I saw authors arguing that her reviews were so much tamer and more acceptable than the SBs and DA and other blogs.  AAR has made a similar transition from being shunned by many authors to now, IMO, being true establishment. Now in some cases I think the shifting standards is a bit of revisionist history, but it&#8217;s interesting nonetheless to see these different phases of online discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Jane...was that dark chocolate? Or are you more of a milk chocolate sort? ((grin))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Jane&#8230;was that dark chocolate? Or are you more of a milk chocolate sort? ((grin))</p>
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		<title>By: Shiloh Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiloh Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thoughtful, definitely. That’s where I’m coming from. One of the definitions of “professional” in M-W is: “characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession” and another is: “exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace.” This is what I meant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And I agree entirely.  When I say professional, I&#039;m not just talking business-type aspects.  While I know DA is a hobby for the ladies that run it, IMO, it&#039;s one of the more professional review sites out there, and I&#039;m including blogs and reviews sites and magazines in my evaluation. The fact that this site IS run as a hobby/labor of love only adds weight to my opinion. 

That they get no compensation for it, yet still work to advocate romance, authors, epublishing, etc, and provide honest, thoughtful reviews, and they do a good job of it.

They maintain standards, the site is professional, they approach books with an open mind even if they love one author or haven&#039;t been impressed with another in the past.  They don&#039;t gush unless they feel something is gush-worthy, and that&#039;s something I hold in high regard.  Glowing reviews mean nothing if &#039;glowing&#039; is all one sees.  The blog stands by what they say, if they screw up, they offer an apology.   Even when they don&#039;t particularly care for one author&#039;s behavior and call said author out, I don&#039;t see them bashing/trashing the way I&#039;ve seen on others.  


That, to me, is part of why I consider the DA blog a professional site.  But professional is a heck of a lot easier to say than all of the above.

Am I maybe holding DA to a high standard?  Possibly.  But it&#039;s a bar I established in my mind over the past couple years of reading their blog.  Their actions have shaped my opinion of them.  

;-)  So ya see...it&#039;s all their fault *G* I&#039;m not always very easy to impress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thoughtful, definitely. That’s where I’m coming from. One of the definitions of “professional” in M-W is: “characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession” and another is: “exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace.” This is what I meant.</p></blockquote>
<p>And I agree entirely.  When I say professional, I&#8217;m not just talking business-type aspects.  While I know DA is a hobby for the ladies that run it, IMO, it&#8217;s one of the more professional review sites out there, and I&#8217;m including blogs and reviews sites and magazines in my evaluation. The fact that this site IS run as a hobby/labor of love only adds weight to my opinion. </p>
<p>That they get no compensation for it, yet still work to advocate romance, authors, epublishing, etc, and provide honest, thoughtful reviews, and they do a good job of it.</p>
<p>They maintain standards, the site is professional, they approach books with an open mind even if they love one author or haven&#8217;t been impressed with another in the past.  They don&#8217;t gush unless they feel something is gush-worthy, and that&#8217;s something I hold in high regard.  Glowing reviews mean nothing if &#8216;glowing&#8217; is all one sees.  The blog stands by what they say, if they screw up, they offer an apology.   Even when they don&#8217;t particularly care for one author&#8217;s behavior and call said author out, I don&#8217;t see them bashing/trashing the way I&#8217;ve seen on others.  </p>
<p>That, to me, is part of why I consider the DA blog a professional site.  But professional is a heck of a lot easier to say than all of the above.</p>
<p>Am I maybe holding DA to a high standard?  Possibly.  But it&#8217;s a bar I established in my mind over the past couple years of reading their blog.  Their actions have shaped my opinion of them.  </p>
<p>;-)  So ya see&#8230;it&#8217;s all their fault *G* I&#8217;m not always very easy to impress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you have anything to apologize for Jackie.  I view &quot;professional&quot; as a standard that a hobbyist has a very hard time achieving. I.e., AAR has Laurie who edits all their reviews.  Having an editor is one of those things that I would associate with a &quot;professional&quot; review site.  A professional one would be like RT where it has a monthly release of all its reviews right on schedule.  It&#039;s pretty much a miracle to get our reviews together in a timely fashion. 

I think that I ascribe alot more to the word &quot;professional&quot; than you are which is, of course, my own problem, but what underlies why I shy away from saying that we are professionals.

Edited to add:  yes, as azteclady said, those are excerpts from reviews in professional publications and an example of how it can be a) consistent with the reviewer&#039;s past and b) all about the subject matter but still be offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you have anything to apologize for Jackie.  I view &#8220;professional&#8221; as a standard that a hobbyist has a very hard time achieving. I.e., AAR has Laurie who edits all their reviews.  Having an editor is one of those things that I would associate with a &#8220;professional&#8221; review site.  A professional one would be like RT where it has a monthly release of all its reviews right on schedule.  It&#8217;s pretty much a miracle to get our reviews together in a timely fashion. </p>
<p>I think that I ascribe alot more to the word &#8220;professional&#8221; than you are which is, of course, my own problem, but what underlies why I shy away from saying that we are professionals.</p>
<p>Edited to add:  yes, as azteclady said, those are excerpts from reviews in professional publications and an example of how it can be a) consistent with the reviewer&#8217;s past and b) all about the subject matter but still be offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Mireya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mireya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to make a very personal comment here: I am not a professional reviewer nor is my newsletter a professional publication by any stretch of the imagination.  However, we have established certain standards and aim at providing a quality product and that means that whenever anyone refers to us as being &quot;professional&quot; we consider it the highest compliment we could ever get.  It may sound silly, but it makes us feel like we are accomplishing our goals even if we are not &quot;professional&quot; in the sense of being paid for what we do (which we are not).  Why?  Jackie just posted the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to make a very personal comment here: I am not a professional reviewer nor is my newsletter a professional publication by any stretch of the imagination.  However, we have established certain standards and aim at providing a quality product and that means that whenever anyone refers to us as being &#8220;professional&#8221; we consider it the highest compliment we could ever get.  It may sound silly, but it makes us feel like we are accomplishing our goals even if we are not &#8220;professional&#8221; in the sense of being paid for what we do (which we are not).  Why?  Jackie just posted the reason.</p>
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