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	<title>Comments on: DUELING REVIEW: Reader and Raelynx by Sharon Shinn</title>
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		<title>By: readerdiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerdiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw your review of this book but had to wait until I finished it. My opinion falls more with Janine. Since this appears to be the final book in this  part of the series, I like how all of the pieces came together. We get to see some characters from the other books (even minor ones.)My favorite character was Sennet. I really like how she draws the other characters to her in a family that she really didn&#039;t want to be responsible for. All of Shinn&#039;s characters grow and I found them fascinating. There might have been some predictability about the characters and the storyline but isn&#039;t that why we chose Fantasy. I like the Happily ever after.
I hope Ms. Shinn lets us see more of what happens to these characters.This series is a keeper for me. A-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw your review of this book but had to wait until I finished it. My opinion falls more with Janine. Since this appears to be the final book in this  part of the series, I like how all of the pieces came together. We get to see some characters from the other books (even minor ones.)My favorite character was Sennet. I really like how she draws the other characters to her in a family that she really didn&#8217;t want to be responsible for. All of Shinn&#8217;s characters grow and I found them fascinating. There might have been some predictability about the characters and the storyline but isn&#8217;t that why we chose Fantasy. I like the Happily ever after.<br />
I hope Ms. Shinn lets us see more of what happens to these characters.This series is a keeper for me. A-</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I look forward to the next book in the series which Sharon shinn has planned - more for our friends from these 4 books than for the Rider it’s going to be about, really!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I look forward to that book, too.  We don&#039;t really know too much about that rider but I think she could be interesting, and it would also be interesting to see Gilengaria post-war.  Actually what I would most love to see in a Twelve Houses book is one that is set in the Lirrenlands.  I think the Lirrenlands sound fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I look forward to the next book in the series which Sharon shinn has planned &#8211; more for our friends from these 4 books than for the Rider it’s going to be about, really!</p></blockquote>
<p>I look forward to that book, too.  We don&#8217;t really know too much about that rider but I think she could be interesting, and it would also be interesting to see Gilengaria post-war.  Actually what I would most love to see in a Twelve Houses book is one that is set in the Lirrenlands.  I think the Lirrenlands sound fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: msaggie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janine, I have to be very careful not to give away spoilers about Amalie, but in the midst of all the predictability in Reader and Raelynx, I thought the category that Cammon puts her in was most interesting. Like Jane, we already had the foreshadowing in The Thirteenth House (which I actually enjoyed as much as Reader and Raelynx) and Dark Moon Defender about Valri. Actually, at the duel in the end, I thought &quot;this reminds me of Lois McMaster Bujold&#039;s Shards of Honor&quot;, and I was right! (I really have read too many fantasy/sc-fi books/plots). I have some extra thoughts about the duel too - but it would be spoiler territory, so I am going to keep mum. I look forward to the next book in the series which Sharon shinn has planned - more for our friends from these 4 books than for the Rider it&#039;s going to be about, really!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janine, I have to be very careful not to give away spoilers about Amalie, but in the midst of all the predictability in Reader and Raelynx, I thought the category that Cammon puts her in was most interesting. Like Jane, we already had the foreshadowing in The Thirteenth House (which I actually enjoyed as much as Reader and Raelynx) and Dark Moon Defender about Valri. Actually, at the duel in the end, I thought &#8220;this reminds me of Lois McMaster Bujold&#8217;s Shards of Honor&#8221;, and I was right! (I really have read too many fantasy/sc-fi books/plots). I have some extra thoughts about the duel too &#8211; but it would be spoiler territory, so I am going to keep mum. I look forward to the next book in the series which Sharon shinn has planned &#8211; more for our friends from these 4 books than for the Rider it&#8217;s going to be about, really!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LinM -- I&#039;m glad you are enjoying the books.  You bring up a good point -- I think it is tricky to write serene books with happy endings when good and evil are more ambiguous.  

Nontheless, I think Shinn has written some beautiful books with more ambiguous characters.  &lt;em&gt;Jovah&#039;s Angel&lt;/em&gt;, in particular, has a fascinating fallen archangel named Delilah, and Miriam in &lt;em&gt;Angelica&lt;/em&gt; is also an interesting ambiguous secondary character.  I would also suggest &lt;em&gt;Heart of Gold&lt;/em&gt;, not so much for ambiguous characters as for what I thought was a very rich exploration of social and cultural conflicts, one that didn&#039;t simplify them or offer an easy way out.  And Shinn&#039;s recent YA book, General Winston&#039;s Daughter, did not have clear cut villains and heroes, though it does take a strong stance against colonialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LinM &#8212; I&#8217;m glad you are enjoying the books.  You bring up a good point &#8212; I think it is tricky to write serene books with happy endings when good and evil are more ambiguous.  </p>
<p>Nontheless, I think Shinn has written some beautiful books with more ambiguous characters.  <em>Jovah&#8217;s Angel</em>, in particular, has a fascinating fallen archangel named Delilah, and Miriam in <em>Angelica</em> is also an interesting ambiguous secondary character.  I would also suggest <em>Heart of Gold</em>, not so much for ambiguous characters as for what I thought was a very rich exploration of social and cultural conflicts, one that didn&#8217;t simplify them or offer an easy way out.  And Shinn&#8217;s recent YA book, General Winston&#8217;s Daughter, did not have clear cut villains and heroes, though it does take a strong stance against colonialism.</p>
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		<title>By: kardis</title>
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		<dc:creator>kardis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jane, that is good to know. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jane, that is good to know. :)</p>
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		<title>By: kardis</title>
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		<dc:creator>kardis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, after I made that comment I looked for a review and didn&#039;t see one. I think I am the only person who doesn&#039;t think that TTH was the weakest in the series. I have a hard time trying to find a weakest, really. DMD is my favorite (though of course I haven&#039;t picked this one up as I said earlier). Thanks for the answer Janine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, after I made that comment I looked for a review and didn&#8217;t see one. I think I am the only person who doesn&#8217;t think that TTH was the weakest in the series. I have a hard time trying to find a weakest, really. DMD is my favorite (though of course I haven&#8217;t picked this one up as I said earlier). Thanks for the answer Janine!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought that Thirteenth House, with all its emotional dissatisfaction, was a better book that this one.  Like msaggie, Mystic and Rider and Dark Moon Defender are my favorite.

Part of the reason I liked Mystic and Rider was that it was the beginning of a new adventure.  I knew nothing about the people and their world.  By Reader and Raelynx, I felt that the story had already been told.  

I liked everyone.  I liked Cammon and Amalie and felt that they were well matched.  It just lacked the sparkle that I felt in the other books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought that Thirteenth House, with all its emotional dissatisfaction, was a better book that this one.  Like msaggie, Mystic and Rider and Dark Moon Defender are my favorite.</p>
<p>Part of the reason I liked Mystic and Rider was that it was the beginning of a new adventure.  I knew nothing about the people and their world.  By Reader and Raelynx, I felt that the story had already been told.  </p>
<p>I liked everyone.  I liked Cammon and Amalie and felt that they were well matched.  It just lacked the sparkle that I felt in the other books.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebyj -- The angel/Samaria series is my favorite of Shinn&#039;s series, but I enjoy her other books a lot, too.  I&#039;d suggest starting the Twelve Houses series in the beginning, with &lt;em&gt;Mystic and Rider&lt;/em&gt;, since it does set up the rest of the story.

Kardis -- I don&#039;t believe we&#039;ve reviewed &lt;em&gt;The Thirteenth House&lt;/em&gt; yet.  Personally, it&#039;s my least favorite Shinn so far. I still enjoyed some parts of it, but overall I enjoyed &lt;em&gt;Reader and Raelynx&lt;/em&gt; much more.  I will be interested in how Jane answers your question, though.

Msaggie -- Your B- grade falls exactly in the middle between mine and Jane&#039;s.  When you say that you agree with all of Jane&#039;s points, does that mean that you figured out the nature of Amalie&#039;s ablilities?  I ask because it sounded like Jane might have, but to me, those came as a big surprise.

Since you brought up Tolkien, I will say that I thoroughly enjoyed &lt;em&gt;The Hobbit&lt;/em&gt;, but could not get through &lt;em&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/em&gt;.  However, what I meant was less a criticism of Tolkien himself than of the way so much of the fantasy genre is composed of books that try to duplicate his success by emulating his books (many books do this in a far more obvious way than &lt;em&gt;Mystic and Rider&lt;/em&gt; did).  

Therefore I find it much more fresh and interesting when a fantasy novel goes in a completely different direction than the group-of-companions-traveling-together-through-a-
fantastical-land-on-a-mission-or-a-quest story.  When Tolkien came up with it it was unique and different, but at this point, it&#039;s less so.  I generally find that type of story formulaic, and frankly can&#039;t finish most books with that premise, so it&#039;s a huge testament to Shinn&#039;s beautiful writing style and her compelling characters that I still enjoyed &lt;em&gt;Mystic and Rider&lt;/em&gt; and thought it was a good book.

I mainly brought it up to say that though I agree with you and Jane about the resolutions to the conflicts and the fates of the villains, I still consider &lt;em&gt;Reader and Realynx&lt;/em&gt; the fresher and more interesting of these two books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebyj &#8212; The angel/Samaria series is my favorite of Shinn&#8217;s series, but I enjoy her other books a lot, too.  I&#8217;d suggest starting the Twelve Houses series in the beginning, with <em>Mystic and Rider</em>, since it does set up the rest of the story.</p>
<p>Kardis &#8212; I don&#8217;t believe we&#8217;ve reviewed <em>The Thirteenth House</em> yet.  Personally, it&#8217;s my least favorite Shinn so far. I still enjoyed some parts of it, but overall I enjoyed <em>Reader and Raelynx</em> much more.  I will be interested in how Jane answers your question, though.</p>
<p>Msaggie &#8212; Your B- grade falls exactly in the middle between mine and Jane&#8217;s.  When you say that you agree with all of Jane&#8217;s points, does that mean that you figured out the nature of Amalie&#8217;s ablilities?  I ask because it sounded like Jane might have, but to me, those came as a big surprise.</p>
<p>Since you brought up Tolkien, I will say that I thoroughly enjoyed <em>The Hobbit</em>, but could not get through <em>The Lord of the Rings</em>.  However, what I meant was less a criticism of Tolkien himself than of the way so much of the fantasy genre is composed of books that try to duplicate his success by emulating his books (many books do this in a far more obvious way than <em>Mystic and Rider</em> did).  </p>
<p>Therefore I find it much more fresh and interesting when a fantasy novel goes in a completely different direction than the group-of-companions-traveling-together-through-a-<br />
fantastical-land-on-a-mission-or-a-quest story.  When Tolkien came up with it it was unique and different, but at this point, it&#8217;s less so.  I generally find that type of story formulaic, and frankly can&#8217;t finish most books with that premise, so it&#8217;s a huge testament to Shinn&#8217;s beautiful writing style and her compelling characters that I still enjoyed <em>Mystic and Rider</em> and thought it was a good book.</p>
<p>I mainly brought it up to say that though I agree with you and Jane about the resolutions to the conflicts and the fates of the villains, I still consider <em>Reader and Realynx</em> the fresher and more interesting of these two books.</p>
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		<title>By: LinM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janine&#039;s review of &quot;Dark Moon Defender&quot; prompted me to reread &quot;Mystic and Rider&quot; and read the next two books in the series. I&#039;m waiting for my library to get &quot;Reader and Raelynx&quot;. I have mixed feelings about the series. Shinn&#039;s prose has a serenity, simplicity and confidence that I love. When I&#039;m reading her books, I&#039;m enthralled. But after I put them down, I wish that the lines between good and bad, (Sennet and Coralinda as an example) were more ambiguous. The villains are often over-the-top and I notice this more because the settings Shinn creates would lend themselves to more rounded characterizations. But maybe I&#039;m asking for the impossible - maybe the serenity that I love in Shinn&#039;s books would be sacrificed if the characters were more ambiguous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janine&#8217;s review of &#8220;Dark Moon Defender&#8221; prompted me to reread &#8220;Mystic and Rider&#8221; and read the next two books in the series. I&#8217;m waiting for my library to get &#8220;Reader and Raelynx&#8221;. I have mixed feelings about the series. Shinn&#8217;s prose has a serenity, simplicity and confidence that I love. When I&#8217;m reading her books, I&#8217;m enthralled. But after I put them down, I wish that the lines between good and bad, (Sennet and Coralinda as an example) were more ambiguous. The villains are often over-the-top and I notice this more because the settings Shinn creates would lend themselves to more rounded characterizations. But maybe I&#8217;m asking for the impossible &#8211; maybe the serenity that I love in Shinn&#8217;s books would be sacrificed if the characters were more ambiguous.</p>
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		<title>By: msaggie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jane and Janine for your duelling reviews. I fall somewhere in between both of you as regards enjoyment of Reader and Raelynx. I think my disappointments are because I expected too much, like Jane says. Although my grade is slightly higher than Jane&#039;s (B-), I agree totally with all her points. There are some beautiful moments and scenes in Reader and Raelynx. However, the resolution to many of the conflicts (and fate of the villains) were all rather convenient and predictable. Having said all that, I would still recommend it, but given another chance, I would have waited for the paperback. My favourite of the series is Mystic and Rider (I do love Tolkien, too, of course), followed by Dark Moon Defender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jane and Janine for your duelling reviews. I fall somewhere in between both of you as regards enjoyment of Reader and Raelynx. I think my disappointments are because I expected too much, like Jane says. Although my grade is slightly higher than Jane&#8217;s (B-), I agree totally with all her points. There are some beautiful moments and scenes in Reader and Raelynx. However, the resolution to many of the conflicts (and fate of the villains) were all rather convenient and predictable. Having said all that, I would still recommend it, but given another chance, I would have waited for the paperback. My favourite of the series is Mystic and Rider (I do love Tolkien, too, of course), followed by Dark Moon Defender.</p>
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