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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW:  The Mane Event by Shelly Laurentson</title>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would like some non-crazy, or at least less-crazy characters in her stories - otherwise it’s more of the same and I know I’ll start tiring of reading about the same kind of characters repeatedly. Let’s hope this was a blip, and her next book is stronger.&lt;/i&gt;

What is instructive to me about this book is that the move from ebook to NY print pub doesn't necessarily = a better book.  And yeah, I'd love to see her writing develop beyond the crazy women characters, much as I've enjoyed them.  

&lt;i&gt;It’s the old, don’t tell me, show me, deal… So the writer showing me works ten times better *for me, but I’m insane* than the writer telling me.&lt;/i&gt;

I realized reading ME that showing and not telling is only part of what makes a complete story for me, especially when the piece is IMO disabled by a number of other significant issues.  I agree with you that at a bare bones level (like if you reverse outlined the story), CP is a fuller arc, but at a substantive level what comprised that arc defeated its own purpose -- to me, at least.

&lt;i&gt;The one thing that kind of annoyed me in the first story was how quickly Dez accepted that Mace was a lion. I mean some guy shifts into a lion in front of me and I might have a lot of issues with this. I mean your whole world has to realign its self to accept that shapeshifters exist and that you are currently shagging one of them. I can’t remember, but did they not have sex soon after that?&lt;/i&gt;

Yup, they had sex RIGHT after that.  I didn't mention this in my review (it's a tough line expressing enough to justify a below average grade without spoiling the book or appearing to dump on it), but that aspect of the story didn't work for me, either, not only because Dez's reaction was so subdued, but also because the justification seemed weak to me:  well, at least you're honest -- let's boink.  It just felt like Mace and Dez were being maneuvered into having sex that first time so that the rest of the story could be propelled by the bouts of sex (and IMO not very hot sex, at that).

That set up, BTW, is not the same as in the Pack Challenge books, whee the human/shifter dynamics are, IMO, MUCH more strongly developed.  In fact, in the last book (Here Kitty, Kitty), there are some really nice moments when the heroine observes the hero in his cat form and interacts with him, reading his body language in a way that makes the affectionate exchange fresh, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I would like some non-crazy, or at least less-crazy characters in her stories - otherwise it’s more of the same and I know I’ll start tiring of reading about the same kind of characters repeatedly. Let’s hope this was a blip, and her next book is stronger.</i></p>
<p>What is instructive to me about this book is that the move from ebook to NY print pub doesn&#8217;t necessarily = a better book.  And yeah, I&#8217;d love to see her writing develop beyond the crazy women characters, much as I&#8217;ve enjoyed them.  </p>
<p><i>It’s the old, don’t tell me, show me, deal… So the writer showing me works ten times better *for me, but I’m insane* than the writer telling me.</i></p>
<p>I realized reading ME that showing and not telling is only part of what makes a complete story for me, especially when the piece is IMO disabled by a number of other significant issues.  I agree with you that at a bare bones level (like if you reverse outlined the story), CP is a fuller arc, but at a substantive level what comprised that arc defeated its own purpose &#8212; to me, at least.</p>
<p><i>The one thing that kind of annoyed me in the first story was how quickly Dez accepted that Mace was a lion. I mean some guy shifts into a lion in front of me and I might have a lot of issues with this. I mean your whole world has to realign its self to accept that shapeshifters exist and that you are currently shagging one of them. I can’t remember, but did they not have sex soon after that?</i></p>
<p>Yup, they had sex RIGHT after that.  I didn&#8217;t mention this in my review (it&#8217;s a tough line expressing enough to justify a below average grade without spoiling the book or appearing to dump on it), but that aspect of the story didn&#8217;t work for me, either, not only because Dez&#8217;s reaction was so subdued, but also because the justification seemed weak to me:  well, at least you&#8217;re honest &#8212; let&#8217;s boink.  It just felt like Mace and Dez were being maneuvered into having sex that first time so that the rest of the story could be propelled by the bouts of sex (and IMO not very hot sex, at that).</p>
<p>That set up, BTW, is not the same as in the Pack Challenge books, whee the human/shifter dynamics are, IMO, MUCH more strongly developed.  In fact, in the last book (Here Kitty, Kitty), there are some really nice moments when the heroine observes the hero in his cat form and interacts with him, reading his body language in a way that makes the affectionate exchange fresh, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: raspberry swyrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>raspberry swyrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I was first introduced to this author by this site and was rather excited about this new release, so I have to admit it was a bit of a letdown. (and I even got a fellow blogger to buy it...) The one thing that kind of annoyed me in the first story was how quickly Dez accepted that Mace was a lion. I mean some guy shifts into a lion in front of me and I might have a lot of issues with this. I mean your whole world has to realign its self to accept that shapeshifters exist and that you are currently shagging one of them. I can’t remember, but did they not have sex soon after that? I personally might need a couple of hours or so to absorb it all. At least with the second one they were both shifters. I wonder if it was like this in the actual novels?? I do still want to eventually buy the only other pack challenge novel that my bookstore sells online but it will not be with as eager anticipation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I was first introduced to this author by this site and was rather excited about this new release, so I have to admit it was a bit of a letdown. (and I even got a fellow blogger to buy it&#8230;) The one thing that kind of annoyed me in the first story was how quickly Dez accepted that Mace was a lion. I mean some guy shifts into a lion in front of me and I might have a lot of issues with this. I mean your whole world has to realign its self to accept that shapeshifters exist and that you are currently shagging one of them. I can’t remember, but did they not have sex soon after that? I personally might need a couple of hours or so to absorb it all. At least with the second one they were both shifters. I wonder if it was like this in the actual novels?? I do still want to eventually buy the only other pack challenge novel that my bookstore sells online but it will not be with as eager anticipation.</p>
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		<title>By: TeddyPig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeddyPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Teddy, I think I know what you mean, but how did you think CP was “more complete story wise”?&lt;/i&gt;

More development in my mind. Their relationship seemed fuller to me.
Maybe just because their was more character arc there and description of their feelings for each other through the story and less discussion with others describing it "he loves you" or "she loves you" and more actions between them showing this at work.

It's the old, don't tell me, show me, deal... So the writer showing me works ten times better *for me, but I'm insane* than the writer telling me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Teddy, I think I know what you mean, but how did you think CP was “more complete story wise”?</i></p>
<p>More development in my mind. Their relationship seemed fuller to me.<br />
Maybe just because their was more character arc there and description of their feelings for each other through the story and less discussion with others describing it &#8220;he loves you&#8221; or &#8220;she loves you&#8221; and more actions between them showing this at work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the old, don&#8217;t tell me, show me, deal&#8230; So the writer showing me works ten times better *for me, but I&#8217;m insane* than the writer telling me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it on Books on Board as a Mobipocket book, and since I'd enjoyed her Pack Challenge books, I was really excited about the books. Unfortunately, I didn't enjoy the first story - I had the same problems you had. I started skimming pages just to get to the end. I didn't start the second story, fearing it would be much the same. I'm glad you enjoyed it though, so that gives me hope. Still, I think I'm going to wait til the memory of the first story has faded before I tackle the second story.

I would like some non-crazy, or at least less-crazy characters in her stories - otherwise it's more of the same and I know I'll start tiring of reading about the same kind of characters repeatedly. Let's hope this was a blip, and her next book is stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it on Books on Board as a Mobipocket book, and since I&#8217;d enjoyed her Pack Challenge books, I was really excited about the books. Unfortunately, I didn&#8217;t enjoy the first story - I had the same problems you had. I started skimming pages just to get to the end. I didn&#8217;t start the second story, fearing it would be much the same. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it though, so that gives me hope. Still, I think I&#8217;m going to wait til the memory of the first story has faded before I tackle the second story.</p>
<p>I would like some non-crazy, or at least less-crazy characters in her stories - otherwise it&#8217;s more of the same and I know I&#8217;ll start tiring of reading about the same kind of characters repeatedly. Let&#8217;s hope this was a blip, and her next book is stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teddy, I think I know what you mean, but how did you think CP was "more complete story wise"?  There was just so much in that story I had a hard time with, that I know it seemed a lot longer than ST, but it seemed really unfinished to me.  I definitely agree with you about the female characters in ST, but one thing I was thinking about today was how so many of the women in these stories hovered in the crazy zone.  It's just that some of them are happy crazy while others are crazy crazy.  Sort of like the happy drunk v. the violent drunk -- is the happy drunk really healthy?  Dez wasn't a crazy woman, and I wonder what she would have been like without all that strange ex-husband baggage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, I think I know what you mean, but how did you think CP was &#8220;more complete story wise&#8221;?  There was just so much in that story I had a hard time with, that I know it seemed a lot longer than ST, but it seemed really unfinished to me.  I definitely agree with you about the female characters in ST, but one thing I was thinking about today was how so many of the women in these stories hovered in the crazy zone.  It&#8217;s just that some of them are happy crazy while others are crazy crazy.  Sort of like the happy drunk v. the violent drunk &#8212; is the happy drunk really healthy?  Dez wasn&#8217;t a crazy woman, and I wonder what she would have been like without all that strange ex-husband baggage.</p>
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		<title>By: TeddyPig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeddyPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would review this book but I ain't reviewing no DRMed pdf files.

Did you see the warning on Fictionwise regarding this pdf?!? 

I swear it almost seems to read DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK. Honestly folks in publishing. Drop the DRM or the total mass of new eBook reader formats coming on the market combined with your silly choices in DRM is gonna become a nightmare for the eBook sales department.

Anyway, I almost wanted to flip your grades for both stories. I thought Shaw's  Tail almost too perfunctory but I liked the female characters in it a hell of a lot more. 

I thought A Christmas Pride was more complete story wise but, like you,  I thought the heroine had was weaker than I expect of a Laurenston creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would review this book but I ain&#8217;t reviewing no DRMed pdf files.</p>
<p>Did you see the warning on Fictionwise regarding this pdf?!? </p>
<p>I swear it almost seems to read DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK. Honestly folks in publishing. Drop the DRM or the total mass of new eBook reader formats coming on the market combined with your silly choices in DRM is gonna become a nightmare for the eBook sales department.</p>
<p>Anyway, I almost wanted to flip your grades for both stories. I thought Shaw&#8217;s  Tail almost too perfunctory but I liked the female characters in it a hell of a lot more. </p>
<p>I thought A Christmas Pride was more complete story wise but, like you,  I thought the heroine had was weaker than I expect of a Laurenston creation.</p>
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