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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me tell, I much prefer the Disneyfied versions of Sleeping Beauty and The Little Mermaid to the originals.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


You and me both.  I haven&#039;t seen &lt;em&gt;Sleeping Beauty&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; original story, but I watched the original of &lt;em&gt;The Little Mermaid&lt;/em&gt; and was completely horrified.</description>
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<p>You and me both.  I haven&#8217;t seen <em>Sleeping Beauty&#8217;s</em> original story, but I watched the original of <em>The Little Mermaid</em> and was completely horrified.</p>
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		<title>By: Dionne Galace &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bam &#38; Shuzluva on Lover Unbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dionne Galace &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bam &#38; Shuzluva on Lover Unbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s get the plot, character, storyline stuff out of the way before we get to the OMGWTFBBQthat&#8217;snotanHEA thing that everyone was freaking out about Shuzluva: okay Shuzluva: you start, BUT GIVE ME A CHANCE TO [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It isn’t the HEA, it’s the images of Fabio and pirates and heaving bosoms and sexually-deprived, ignorant housewives (as a few FFF fans listed) that have stuck with us all over the past fifteen to twenty years.&lt;/i&gt;

That, I can agree with.  A lot of those covers are just plain &lt;b&gt;hokey&lt;/b&gt;.  It&#039;s as if romance publishers &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to give the impression nothing has changed since the &#039;70s.  But a book that looks stuck in the bad old days doesn&#039;t inspire confidence that its themes or writing will be up to date.

I think the whole question of expanding the genre gets confounded by these issues of perception.  Romance is pretty expansive already, but we see over and over that people don&#039;t think they read romance because they don&#039;t read Harlequins or books with clinch covers.

&quot;Don&#039;t judge a book by its cover&quot; just isn&#039;t realistic.  That&#039;s what the cover&#039;s &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt;.  I read romance; I know that great books can have terrible covers... but still, the cover influences me.  Why would someone who isn&#039;t already a romance fan pick up a book whose cover shrieks &quot;Dated&quot;?  I&#039;m often turned off sci fi by covers that give me that kind of reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It isn’t the HEA, it’s the images of Fabio and pirates and heaving bosoms and sexually-deprived, ignorant housewives (as a few FFF fans listed) that have stuck with us all over the past fifteen to twenty years.</i></p>
<p>That, I can agree with.  A lot of those covers are just plain <b>hokey</b>.  It&#8217;s as if romance publishers <i>want</i> to give the impression nothing has changed since the &#8217;70s.  But a book that looks stuck in the bad old days doesn&#8217;t inspire confidence that its themes or writing will be up to date.</p>
<p>I think the whole question of expanding the genre gets confounded by these issues of perception.  Romance is pretty expansive already, but we see over and over that people don&#8217;t think they read romance because they don&#8217;t read Harlequins or books with clinch covers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t judge a book by its cover&#8221; just isn&#8217;t realistic.  That&#8217;s what the cover&#8217;s <i>for</i>.  I read romance; I know that great books can have terrible covers&#8230; but still, the cover influences me.  Why would someone who isn&#8217;t already a romance fan pick up a book whose cover shrieks &#8220;Dated&#8221;?  I&#8217;m often turned off sci fi by covers that give me that kind of reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That’s what I mean. I think that perception that romances are for an older generation may come from the fact that so many books have a very strict definition of romantic happiness, love and commitment.&lt;/i&gt;

Are you sure? I&#039;ve read a few of the popular YA lines and grew up on Dawson&#039;s Creek and my peers and I throve on the drama and hijinks of romance and (possibly back-stabbing) friendships. Now that we&#039;ve moved on to Grey&#039;s Anatomy, it&#039;s basically the melodrama of teen soaps all over again. It isn&#039;t the HEA, it&#039;s the images of Fabio and pirates and heaving bosoms and sexually-deprived, ignorant housewives (as a few FFF fans listed) that have stuck with us all over the past fifteen to twenty years. Just Tuesday or so on &lt;i&gt;The View&lt;/i&gt; Sherri Shepard shared that when she wants to relax, she grabs the &quot;trashiest romance novel&quot; she can find. Even when Kelly Ripa had her book club it wasn&#039;t taken seriously by what it seems was neither herself (everything was very frothy and pink!) or anyone else because she was recommending romance novels. 

Trust me...it ain&#039;t the happily-ever-after that keeps the younger readers away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That’s what I mean. I think that perception that romances are for an older generation may come from the fact that so many books have a very strict definition of romantic happiness, love and commitment.</i></p>
<p>Are you sure? I&#8217;ve read a few of the popular YA lines and grew up on Dawson&#8217;s Creek and my peers and I throve on the drama and hijinks of romance and (possibly back-stabbing) friendships. Now that we&#8217;ve moved on to Grey&#8217;s Anatomy, it&#8217;s basically the melodrama of teen soaps all over again. It isn&#8217;t the HEA, it&#8217;s the images of Fabio and pirates and heaving bosoms and sexually-deprived, ignorant housewives (as a few FFF fans listed) that have stuck with us all over the past fifteen to twenty years. Just Tuesday or so on <i>The View</i> Sherri Shepard shared that when she wants to relax, she grabs the &#8220;trashiest romance novel&#8221; she can find. Even when Kelly Ripa had her book club it wasn&#8217;t taken seriously by what it seems was neither herself (everything was very frothy and pink!) or anyone else because she was recommending romance novels. </p>
<p>Trust me&#8230;it ain&#8217;t the happily-ever-after that keeps the younger readers away.</p>
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		<title>By: Away from Romancelandia&#8230; &#171; miladyinsanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Away from Romancelandia&#8230; &#171; miladyinsanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from&#160;Romancelandia&#8230;    Posted September 20, 2007    &#8230;and there&#8217;s another HEA discussion that I missed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from&nbsp;Romancelandia&#8230;    Posted September 20, 2007    &#8230;and there&#8217;s another HEA discussion that I missed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all. They see them as for people of their mothers generation. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what I mean.  I think that perception that romances are for an older generation may come from the fact that so many books have a very strict definition of romantic happiness, love and commitment.



&lt;blockquote&gt;I like the fact that the basic precept of this genre is striving towards a committed, loving relationship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Oh, I do too, very much so!  I wouldn&#039;t be reading so many romances if I didn&#039;t.  I just don&#039;t think that going from the resolution of the book&#039;s conflict to marriage immediately is the only way to arrive at a committed and loving relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all. They see them as for people of their mothers generation. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what I mean.  I think that perception that romances are for an older generation may come from the fact that so many books have a very strict definition of romantic happiness, love and commitment.</p>
<blockquote><p>I like the fact that the basic precept of this genre is striving towards a committed, loving relationship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I do too, very much so!  I wouldn&#8217;t be reading so many romances if I didn&#8217;t.  I just don&#8217;t think that going from the resolution of the book&#8217;s conflict to marriage immediately is the only way to arrive at a committed and loving relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all.&lt;/i&gt;

I bet some did but wouldn&#039;t admit to it.  That&#039;s what I&#039;ve found among my friends.  After knowing one friend for 10 years, she tentatively mentioned a best-selling romantic suspense, then finally got brave and admitted to being a longtime romance junkie.  After she &quot;came out&quot;, so did others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all.</i></p>
<p>I bet some did but wouldn&#8217;t admit to it.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve found among my friends.  After knowing one friend for 10 years, she tentatively mentioned a best-selling romantic suspense, then finally got brave and admitted to being a longtime romance junkie.  After she &#8220;came out&#8221;, so did others.</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;was that your first Gaffney? What did you think? (Will you be reviewing it?)&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, &lt;i&gt;TH&amp;TH&lt;/i&gt; was my first Gaffney.  I enjoyed it.  I haven&#039;t decided whether I&#039;ll review it.  Others have written interesting reviews of it already, but if I decide I have something to say, I will.  Obviously I was impressed by the characters.  I&#039;m still thinking over the huge change in the middle of the book, from taunting and long-suffering to flowers and puppies and perfumes and crazy climactic court scene.

I wasn&#039;t as keen on &lt;i&gt;To Love and to Cherish&lt;/i&gt;, so I haven&#039;t read the 3rd Wyckerley book.  But if I review &lt;i&gt;TH&amp;TH&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll read &lt;i&gt;Forever and Ever&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>was that your first Gaffney? What did you think? (Will you be reviewing it?)</i></p>
<p>Yes, <i>TH&amp;TH</i> was my first Gaffney.  I enjoyed it.  I haven&#8217;t decided whether I&#8217;ll review it.  Others have written interesting reviews of it already, but if I decide I have something to say, I will.  Obviously I was impressed by the characters.  I&#8217;m still thinking over the huge change in the middle of the book, from taunting and long-suffering to flowers and puppies and perfumes and crazy climactic court scene.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t as keen on <i>To Love and to Cherish</i>, so I haven&#8217;t read the 3rd Wyckerley book.  But if I review <i>TH&amp;TH</i> I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll read <i>Forever and Ever</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But can you say the same for your fellow 20-somethings?&lt;/em&gt;

Do you mean if they read romances? I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all. They see them as for people of their mothers generation. Granted I&#039;m basing my opinions on my own circle of friends and acquaintances, but when I do dally around the romance aisle in bookstores for a period of time, I rarely see people my age browsing and purchasing romance novels. When I look at author websites, I rarely see writers who share my background, and the ones that do are usually writing paranormals/urban fantasy. 

Like I said, I don&#039;t mind the marriage-obsessiveness of romance novels because I didn&#039;t come from a family where I saw marriage and I grew up in an atmosphere where &lt;em&gt;marriage&lt;/em&gt; was not even thought about as something to desire. So even when I dislike certain tropes or find myself unable to understand why certain things exist in the genre and don&#039;t feel that a man or woman is defined by their status as a husband or wife, I like the fact that the basic precept of this genre is striving towards a committed, loving relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But can you say the same for your fellow 20-somethings?</em></p>
<p>Do you mean if they read romances? I attended school on both coasts and none of the people I know IRL and online read romance novels at all. They see them as for people of their mothers generation. Granted I&#8217;m basing my opinions on my own circle of friends and acquaintances, but when I do dally around the romance aisle in bookstores for a period of time, I rarely see people my age browsing and purchasing romance novels. When I look at author websites, I rarely see writers who share my background, and the ones that do are usually writing paranormals/urban fantasy. </p>
<p>Like I said, I don&#8217;t mind the marriage-obsessiveness of romance novels because I didn&#8217;t come from a family where I saw marriage and I grew up in an atmosphere where <em>marriage</em> was not even thought about as something to desire. So even when I dislike certain tropes or find myself unable to understand why certain things exist in the genre and don&#8217;t feel that a man or woman is defined by their status as a husband or wife, I like the fact that the basic precept of this genre is striving towards a committed, loving relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, Alyssa!  I shouldn&#039;t have assumed that your comments were a response to mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, Alyssa!  I shouldn&#8217;t have assumed that your comments were a response to mine.</p>
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