Thanks for the reply. I’m NOT an expert, I was just wondering how they could all just be strictly homosexual. It just seems to me that most men of that time would want to have sons. They would have to have sex with women or they would never expand their civilization. I think bi-sexuality was more likely.
I could be wrong, hey.. maybe that is why they only had 300 able to do battle against the Persians.

RE: #14
“What would women be like in this culture when the men they intend to marry have been inundated from youth with the whole gay sex thing?”

As long as I could watch!
;)

I also read somewhere that apprentices of those big sumo wrestlers are also expected to clean up their mentor/master’s rear end after the mentor/master has answered the call of nature. Anyone knows if this is true?

Oh my!

That is so not pretty.

But… yeah I have heard of this Samurai thing…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudo

Just not as much as the Spartan/Greek homosexuality.

Oh, and remember always when reading this stuff.
In most of these cases when they say “boy” they mean someone old enough to go into battle. That means, in their culture, someone old enough to die for their country.

I hate all the pedophile garbage that gets thrown into these discussions when they are talking about young men.

PS, about sumo wrestlers: I also read somewhere that apprentices of those big sumo wrestlers are also expected to clean up their mentor/master’s rear end after the mentor/master has answered the call of nature. Anyone knows if this is true?

This culture paired up younger and older warriors to train become lovers and go into battle.
What type of romantic tragedy would there be in watching your lover fight or even die in battle right next to you?

What would women be like in this culture when the men they intend to marry have been inundated from youth with the whole gay sex thing?

That would be some interesting reading for me.

I have no clue how they made it work but there is a ton of historical documentation about this time period available the most notable references point to the fact this is a culture that was dominated by Gay Men.

In fact I have been reading about them since the 1970’s because just about every Literary Gay Writer with any historical knowledge has discussed The Sacred Band of Thebes or Sparta in their writing. It was THE THING for the longest time.

I do not represent myself as a expert on Spartan culture but after watching how Native Americans get sorta upset about Tonto and The Long Ranger… Would you go waltzing carefree into writing about this time period without doing your homework? I honestly think these “John Wayne was a god” war glorifying idiots sure are and for the buck.

Come on, suddenly Spartan history is fascinating?

I mean 300 had great man titty but it also failed to note that this culture was dominated by Gay Warriors. If you will note the only comments about gay men in the whole fucking movie are negative. Boy Lovers!

I am all for loving the 7/11 nachos just realize that the cheese sauce is man made and highly fake.

So these homosexual warrior men were not bi-sexual, just homosexual?