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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW:  The Raven Prince by Elizabeth Hoyt</title>
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		<title>By: Nifty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was initially very excited to read this book -- Hoyt had been lauded all over the place, plus I was lured by the Georgian setting.  But while I did finish the book, it most definitely did not win me over or create a place for Hoyt on my must-buy list.  Ultimately I thought that book was just a big fake.  The setting didn&#039;t seem authentic.  If the author hadn&#039;t told us that it was set in 1700-whatever, I&#039;d have never believed it.  And the H/H, I thought, were way too 21st-century in their thinking and behavior.  To me, this book was the epitome of a wallpaper romance in that regard.  I also thought that the book lacked substance because so many pages were devoted to their sex life.

It was a book with a lot of potential, but it failed to satisfy the romance reader in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was initially very excited to read this book &#8212; Hoyt had been lauded all over the place, plus I was lured by the Georgian setting.  But while I did finish the book, it most definitely did not win me over or create a place for Hoyt on my must-buy list.  Ultimately I thought that book was just a big fake.  The setting didn&#8217;t seem authentic.  If the author hadn&#8217;t told us that it was set in 1700-whatever, I&#8217;d have never believed it.  And the H/H, I thought, were way too 21st-century in their thinking and behavior.  To me, this book was the epitome of a wallpaper romance in that regard.  I also thought that the book lacked substance because so many pages were devoted to their sex life.</p>
<p>It was a book with a lot of potential, but it failed to satisfy the romance reader in me.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t promise to review &lt;em&gt;The Serpent Prince&lt;/em&gt;, Elle, mainly because it may be a long time before I get to it.  I have some interest in it, but my TBR mountain is in danger of turning volcanic...  I&#039;ve recently started three books, all of which sounded great and came highly recommended by Jane, and I haven&#039;t progressed past chapter two in any of them.  So I don&#039;t think this is a good time for me to try &lt;em&gt;The Serpent Prince&lt;/em&gt;.    Jane and Jayne will be reviewing it this week, but they were both fans of &lt;em&gt;The Raven Prince&lt;/em&gt;.  But maybe someone who didn&#039;t love TRP will comment on TSP in the comment section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t promise to review <em>The Serpent Prince</em>, Elle, mainly because it may be a long time before I get to it.  I have some interest in it, but my TBR mountain is in danger of turning volcanic&#8230;  I&#8217;ve recently started three books, all of which sounded great and came highly recommended by Jane, and I haven&#8217;t progressed past chapter two in any of them.  So I don&#8217;t think this is a good time for me to try <em>The Serpent Prince</em>.    Jane and Jayne will be reviewing it this week, but they were both fans of <em>The Raven Prince</em>.  But maybe someone who didn&#8217;t love TRP will comment on TSP in the comment section.</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this book was not a winner for me either, Janine.  I kept thinking to myself while reading it: &quot;Why was this book so darned popular with so many readers and reviewers???&quot;  

The plot seemed so contrived that I could not get past it, I&#039;m afraid. Ah, yes, virtuous widows from the country often travel to London with members of the demimonde and then dress up as whores to cavort in brothels in order to entrap their gentleman employers for a night (or two!) of illicit passion. And, of course, the duke-ish employer *never* recognizes that the unfamiliar lady of the evening is his own employee/object of lustful obsession since she is wearing a remarkably effective mask throughout their sessions of hot sex. Yeah, that is really likely..... And yes, penniless virtuous widows from tiny villages often throw their reputations away with both hands and seemingly think nothing of it.

One of the only things that I really liked about the story was the unconventional appearance of the hero and heroine (neither being particularly good-looking at first glance.) But then the relentless mental lusting began, and the highly improbable plot contrivances started to pile up, and I (too) was left behind as the fan bus left the station.  

I actually don&#039;t recall the hot sex scenes in this book, but that is probably more a function of my jaded romance reader palate than the author&#039;s skill, since I find myself skimming these sections frequently these days.  

&lt;strong&gt;The Serpent Prince&lt;/strong&gt; is also getting &quot;&lt;em&gt;Ooohh-la-la&lt;/em&gt;!&quot; reviews, but I would be very interested in the opinion of someone else who was underwhelmed by &lt;strong&gt;The Raven Prince&lt;/strong&gt;.  Please write a review if you do read it, Janine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this book was not a winner for me either, Janine.  I kept thinking to myself while reading it: &#8220;Why was this book so darned popular with so many readers and reviewers???&#8221;  </p>
<p>The plot seemed so contrived that I could not get past it, I&#8217;m afraid. Ah, yes, virtuous widows from the country often travel to London with members of the demimonde and then dress up as whores to cavort in brothels in order to entrap their gentleman employers for a night (or two!) of illicit passion. And, of course, the duke-ish employer *never* recognizes that the unfamiliar lady of the evening is his own employee/object of lustful obsession since she is wearing a remarkably effective mask throughout their sessions of hot sex. Yeah, that is really likely&#8230;.. And yes, penniless virtuous widows from tiny villages often throw their reputations away with both hands and seemingly think nothing of it.</p>
<p>One of the only things that I really liked about the story was the unconventional appearance of the hero and heroine (neither being particularly good-looking at first glance.) But then the relentless mental lusting began, and the highly improbable plot contrivances started to pile up, and I (too) was left behind as the fan bus left the station.  </p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t recall the hot sex scenes in this book, but that is probably more a function of my jaded romance reader palate than the author&#8217;s skill, since I find myself skimming these sections frequently these days.  </p>
<p><strong>The Serpent Prince</strong> is also getting &#8220;<em>Ooohh-la-la</em>!&#8221; reviews, but I would be very interested in the opinion of someone else who was underwhelmed by <strong>The Raven Prince</strong>.  Please write a review if you do read it, Janine.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brokeback Mountain&quot; was romantic, but not to the wives... What I meant was that the romance genre often sidesteps the implications of the compartmentalizing of love and sex that men do because most of the books are written by women, and generally speaking, women do not compartmentalize the same way.  So it&#039;s not what we think of as romantic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brokeback Mountain&#8221; was romantic, but not to the wives&#8230; What I meant was that the romance genre often sidesteps the implications of the compartmentalizing of love and sex that men do because most of the books are written by women, and generally speaking, women do not compartmentalize the same way.  So it&#8217;s not what we think of as romantic.</p>
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		<title>By: TeddyPig</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree with you that many men do this, but it is not something we see a lot of in romances, probably because it is not romantic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure it is that was Brokeback Mountain.

LOL! That is exactly what I was thinking about when I typed up that response to you. Dichotomy of male sexuality as romance. I just figured it was just me being way too gay again though. And it did have a tragic ending so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I agree with you that many men do this, but it is not something we see a lot of in romances, probably because it is not romantic.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure it is that was Brokeback Mountain.</p>
<p>LOL! That is exactly what I was thinking about when I typed up that response to you. Dichotomy of male sexuality as romance. I just figured it was just me being way too gay again though. And it did have a tragic ending so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miki -</p>
<blockquote><p>Reviews like this are one of the reasons I come back to this site, day after day. I love that one of you can post that a bookâ€™s the â€œnext best thing to sliced breadâ€? while the next can say â€œAre you kidding me?!â€?</p></blockquote>
<p>When I first started reviewing here, I felt I should try to review only books that hadn&#8217;t been reviewed before.  But Jane quickly got that notion out of my head.  She said that Dear Author&#8217;s readers love it when a book is reviewed by more than one of the reviewers.  With that in mind, I&#8217;ve often reviewed books that Jane or Jayne (or in this case, both) or Janet has reviewed in the past.  That&#8217;s not to say that I make it a point to do that, but I just read and review the books I&#8217;m interested in trying, whether or not they&#8217;ve already been reviewed.  </p>
<p>Mary &#8212; I have also had  that feeling of &#8220;Is something wrong with me?&#8221; when everyone else loves a book and I don&#8217;t.  One of the surprising things to me about this review is that I was expecting some readers to say that I couldn&#8217;t be more wrong, but so far, they haven&#8217;t, and some people have said that their response to the book was similar to mine.  It shows, I think, that no book (except perhaps the Bible) can be universally loved, and that even when we disagree with the majority, we aren&#8217;t alone.</p>
<p>Jayne &#8211; Looking forward to your chat review of <em>The Serpent Prince</em>!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy Pig -</p>
<blockquote><p>Well I have not read this particular book, but my opinion is that men do compartmentalize sex and emotion, they are the gurus of the casual sex act. This is not just a historical thing that men did, it is something they do today. They have sex for personal enjoyment (sometimes not surprisingly bisexual) and they have sex based on expectations of others (wife and kids), much like a murder mystery with opportunity and justification. </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with you that many men do this, but it is not something we see a lot of in romances, probably because it is not romantic.</p>
<blockquote><p>I believe when the author goes there with the male character they can not just rely on â€œboys will be boysâ€? </p></blockquote>
<p>A lot of books do rely on &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; though.  There is a common fantasy that runs through a lot of romances of reforming a rake, snagging the guy who lots of other women want, or who has been with a lot of women.  It&#8217;s almost like relying on those other women&#8217;s judgement as a gauge that yes, this guy is desirable, this guy is worth choosing.</p>
<blockquote><p>they have got to be very careful what the guy is thinking sexually, what are the motivations that might lead to him seeking sex with someone else and set the boundaries</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Hoyt did give that some thought, and did show that Edward was constantly thinking of Anna even though he did not want to be.  The book probably wasn&#8217;t as realistic about the brothel-going as it could have been, though.</p>
<p>As I said in the body of the review, one of the problems I had with the book is that I felt there was a lot of lust between Edward and Anna, but I didn&#8217;t see a lot of deep love.  But clearly a lot of readers disagree with my opinion.  </p>
<p>I think there would probably be some disagreement about whether or not going to a brothel undermines the hero.  I&#8217;m sure there are readers who feel that way but the popularity of books with brothel scenes shows that there are many who don&#8217;t .  In my case, it didn&#8217;t stand out as one of the things that most bothered me about the book.</p>
<blockquote><p>Would any of those reasons really help the heroineâ€™s plight if she made sure he had sex with her magic hoo-hoo in the brothel? Maybe she is reinforcing his use of this brothel later in the relationship when she is not wanting the sex or something. If it is just for the purpose of replacement sex then I think you could be undermining the hero on the way to the HEA. Unless you find some way to sell it outside of the sex.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL.  I don&#8217;t disagree with you.  But I think there are many readers (and I am sometimes one of them) who are willing to give heroes a free pass on casual sex.  In my opinion it&#8217;s partly that we&#8217;ve read so many books where the rake reforms that many of us have accepted it as a kind of romancelandia truth, and partly that some of the hotter books in the genre are about sex as well as love, and we are sometimes willing to excuse some things if it results in a hot scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane and I have a chat review of The Serpent Prince due out soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane and I have a chat review of The Serpent Prince due out soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my God, finally, someone else who didn&#039;t enjoy The Raven Prince !!! Thank you Janine! I truly wondered if there was something wrong with me, since I read nothing but praise about this novel. I bought it following Julia Quinn&#039;s recommendation on her website but after 15 pages I already had to force myself to keep reading because it so did not appeal to me. I finished it only on principle, skimming through large portions, and brought it back to the store the following morning. It faded very quickly from my mind, so I can&#039;t even tell what exactly felt so off to me, but I remember thinking how shallow the characters and their feelings felt. And it turned me off enough that I doubt I&#039;ll ever give another of Ms Hoyt&#039;s books a try. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God, finally, someone else who didn&#8217;t enjoy The Raven Prince !!! Thank you Janine! I truly wondered if there was something wrong with me, since I read nothing but praise about this novel. I bought it following Julia Quinn&#8217;s recommendation on her website but after 15 pages I already had to force myself to keep reading because it so did not appeal to me. I finished it only on principle, skimming through large portions, and brought it back to the store the following morning. It faded very quickly from my mind, so I can&#8217;t even tell what exactly felt so off to me, but I remember thinking how shallow the characters and their feelings felt. And it turned me off enough that I doubt I&#8217;ll ever give another of Ms Hoyt&#8217;s books a try. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Miki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 01:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reviews like this are one of the reasons I come back to this site, day after day.  I love that one of you can post that a book&#039;s the &quot;next best thing to sliced bread&quot; while the next can say &quot;Are you &lt;em&gt;kidding&lt;/em&gt; me?!&quot;

I read this book after the initial bruhaha, and while I didn&#039;t hate it, it didn&#039;t &quot;wow&quot; me either.  It was...okay.  Interesting in that it wasn&#039;t about the &lt;em&gt;ton&lt;/em&gt;, which was a big plus for me.  But I wasn&#039;t all that comfortable with the woman secreting herself away to be his secret whore, either.

On the other hand, I very recently finished &lt;em&gt;The Leopard Prince&lt;/em&gt; and I really enjoyed most of it (the Big Misunderstanding ending was annoying, and what criminal would really just happen to take his well-known carvings along with him?!) - much more so that &lt;em&gt;Raven&lt;/em&gt;.  I&#039;ll definitely be watching for her third book, despite her books&#039; flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviews like this are one of the reasons I come back to this site, day after day.  I love that one of you can post that a book&#8217;s the &#8220;next best thing to sliced bread&#8221; while the next can say &#8220;Are you <em>kidding</em> me?!&#8221;</p>
<p>I read this book after the initial bruhaha, and while I didn&#8217;t hate it, it didn&#8217;t &#8220;wow&#8221; me either.  It was&#8230;okay.  Interesting in that it wasn&#8217;t about the <em>ton</em>, which was a big plus for me.  But I wasn&#8217;t all that comfortable with the woman secreting herself away to be his secret whore, either.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I very recently finished <em>The Leopard Prince</em> and I really enjoyed most of it (the Big Misunderstanding ending was annoying, and what criminal would really just happen to take his well-known carvings along with him?!) &#8211; much more so that <em>Raven</em>.  I&#8217;ll definitely be watching for her third book, despite her books&#8217; flaws.</p>
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