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	<title>Comments on: Is the Marriage Between Epublishing and NY a Good One?</title>
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		<title>By: Roslyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roslyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I wonder if this is another one of those cases where the legalities haven&#039;t caught up with the technology yet. It seems disingenuous, if not downright deceptive to not mention that a book was previously available in electronic form. I assume that its required in reprint and can&#039;t imagine why it wouldn&#039;t be required in electronic reprints? That&#039;s damned strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I wonder if this is another one of those cases where the legalities haven&#8217;t caught up with the technology yet. It seems disingenuous, if not downright deceptive to not mention that a book was previously available in electronic form. I assume that its required in reprint and can&#8217;t imagine why it wouldn&#8217;t be required in electronic reprints? That&#8217;s damned strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly@Bewitched</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly@Bewitched</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Jane.  I&#039;m an author stalker so when I read something that really hits home for me, I look them up and I get the necessary info.  Also, I&#039;m always looking at the copyright page as well, but I guess if they don&#039;t have to indicate that the story is previously published (in whatever format) then it would be tricky to someone who just picks up and reads anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Jane.  I&#8217;m an author stalker so when I read something that really hits home for me, I look them up and I get the necessary info.  Also, I&#8217;m always looking at the copyright page as well, but I guess if they don&#8217;t have to indicate that the story is previously published (in whatever format) then it would be tricky to someone who just picks up and reads anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I donâ€™t know about the ebook to pub thing, but presumably thereâ€™d be something that to indicate that it was published before in ebook form.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A book going from ebook to print isn&#039;t considered a reprint (since it&#039;s never been in print before). Traditionally, from an epublisher, the book gets an ebook release first and then goes to print several months later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I donâ€™t know about the ebook to pub thing, but presumably thereâ€™d be something that to indicate that it was published before in ebook form.</p></blockquote>
<p>A book going from ebook to print isn&#8217;t considered a reprint (since it&#8217;s never been in print before). Traditionally, from an epublisher, the book gets an ebook release first and then goes to print several months later.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah McCarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah McCarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late coming in but with an opinion.  Natch. *G*

I think for readers,  the advantage is clear, and I imagine publishers will be as clear as they are with print books when it&#039;s a reprint.  (IOW, check the copyright and or the blurb)

For authors,  the deal will be as good as their understanding of industry contract norms,  thier understanding of the print  distributon process, their understanding of the original deal, and their ability to negotiate a contract (the life blood of an author&#039;s career) , because these marriages do open a can of worms in that they add  another layer of  contracts to the process. 

For example,  when a house sets up a subsidiary sale,  but then wants a new contract rather than just selling the rights under the subsidiary clause already in the contract, an author should immediately see a red flag.  Not that there is necessarily something wrong,  but there must be a reason and that reason should be investigated, determined and evaluated.   The reason could be because the house doesn&#039;t want to pay the standard 50 percent subsidiary royalty because that percentages works out to be higher than the percentage they&#039;re suggesting in the new contract per print book. There is also the possibility the house is looking out for the author and because the deal would work out to be less than the standard print percentage  the author would get, the house decides to sacrifice their bottom line so the author does not lose out.  Iow,  the house decides to protect the author to their own detriment.  It&#039;s a possibility and shouldn&#039;t be ruled out.  It also should not automatically be assumed.

The catch is the author won&#039;t know which situation they&#039;re looking at unless they have the foresight ask to see the pertintent clauses of the deal the Epub house has with the NY pub.   It will be on the author to avoid assumption and be proactive in making sure they are actually getting a good deal and not being misled through assumption or false assurances. Everything in the publishing world is controlled by contracts which means everything is in writing.  Which means authors should see everything in writing before they make decisions.

None of which makes a bit of difference to the reader. Nor should it. Readers should just get to enjoy the product without all the background noise,   but authors don&#039;t have that luxury.  Authors have to understand what&#039;s good for the house is not always good for the author,  that all opportunities are not worth the cost,  and the devil is in the details.  And the details in these marriages are not just in their contracts but in the contracts between their pub and the NY house.  And that  means more legalese,  more research,  more negotiatingâ€“things many authors wish they could just ignore as they are more comfortable creating than running the business side of their  careers,  but which if overlooked could seriously hurt them financially and/or restrict them in the future.  

So are these marriages good?  For the readers yes. For the houses,  probably.  For the author,  it completely depends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late coming in but with an opinion.  Natch. *G*</p>
<p>I think for readers,  the advantage is clear, and I imagine publishers will be as clear as they are with print books when it&#8217;s a reprint.  (IOW, check the copyright and or the blurb)</p>
<p>For authors,  the deal will be as good as their understanding of industry contract norms,  thier understanding of the print  distributon process, their understanding of the original deal, and their ability to negotiate a contract (the life blood of an author&#8217;s career) , because these marriages do open a can of worms in that they add  another layer of  contracts to the process. </p>
<p>For example,  when a house sets up a subsidiary sale,  but then wants a new contract rather than just selling the rights under the subsidiary clause already in the contract, an author should immediately see a red flag.  Not that there is necessarily something wrong,  but there must be a reason and that reason should be investigated, determined and evaluated.   The reason could be because the house doesn&#8217;t want to pay the standard 50 percent subsidiary royalty because that percentages works out to be higher than the percentage they&#8217;re suggesting in the new contract per print book. There is also the possibility the house is looking out for the author and because the deal would work out to be less than the standard print percentage  the author would get, the house decides to sacrifice their bottom line so the author does not lose out.  Iow,  the house decides to protect the author to their own detriment.  It&#8217;s a possibility and shouldn&#8217;t be ruled out.  It also should not automatically be assumed.</p>
<p>The catch is the author won&#8217;t know which situation they&#8217;re looking at unless they have the foresight ask to see the pertintent clauses of the deal the Epub house has with the NY pub.   It will be on the author to avoid assumption and be proactive in making sure they are actually getting a good deal and not being misled through assumption or false assurances. Everything in the publishing world is controlled by contracts which means everything is in writing.  Which means authors should see everything in writing before they make decisions.</p>
<p>None of which makes a bit of difference to the reader. Nor should it. Readers should just get to enjoy the product without all the background noise,   but authors don&#8217;t have that luxury.  Authors have to understand what&#8217;s good for the house is not always good for the author,  that all opportunities are not worth the cost,  and the devil is in the details.  And the details in these marriages are not just in their contracts but in the contracts between their pub and the NY house.  And that  means more legalese,  more research,  more negotiatingâ€“things many authors wish they could just ignore as they are more comfortable creating than running the business side of their  careers,  but which if overlooked could seriously hurt them financially and/or restrict them in the future.  </p>
<p>So are these marriages good?  For the readers yes. For the houses,  probably.  For the author,  it completely depends.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roslyn - there is not.   That&#039;s the big problem.  When an author rewrites some of the content, I think that it is then considered a &quot;new&quot; story. Not a reprint or reissue.  I don&#039;t know what the laws are governing the &quot;reprint/reissue&quot; thing.  Whether publishers do this as a courtesy; whether it is part truth in labeling, I just don&#039;t know.   

On the Mysteria/Bewitched, Bewhatever, there was no mention on the copyright page of its previous print history.  Here is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/mysteria.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to the graphic. 

The Mysteria book is not the only ebook to print that this has happened to but I can&#039;t, off the top of my head, recall the others.

As I said in the initial post last year, &quot;I donâ€™t think these authors donâ€™t intentionally want to mislead the reader about the freshness of their content&quot; but it happens. and it can lead to unhappy readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roslyn &#8211; there is not.   That&#8217;s the big problem.  When an author rewrites some of the content, I think that it is then considered a &#8220;new&#8221; story. Not a reprint or reissue.  I don&#8217;t know what the laws are governing the &#8220;reprint/reissue&#8221; thing.  Whether publishers do this as a courtesy; whether it is part truth in labeling, I just don&#8217;t know.   </p>
<p>On the Mysteria/Bewitched, Bewhatever, there was no mention on the copyright page of its previous print history.  Here is the <a href="http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/mysteria.gif" rel="nofollow">link</a> to the graphic. </p>
<p>The Mysteria book is not the only ebook to print that this has happened to but I can&#8217;t, off the top of my head, recall the others.</p>
<p>As I said in the initial post last year, &#8220;I donâ€™t think these authors donâ€™t intentionally want to mislead the reader about the freshness of their content&#8221; but it happens. and it can lead to unhappy readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Roslyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roslyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still trying to understand why this is any different from the reprint-phenomenon that&#039;s plagued the genre forever. Most of my faves have had their books repubbed ad nauseum. Having been burned by reprints in the past I always look at the publication page. I don&#039;t know about the ebook to pub thing, but presumably there&#039;d be something that to indicate that it was published before in ebook form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still trying to understand why this is any different from the reprint-phenomenon that&#8217;s plagued the genre forever. Most of my faves have had their books repubbed ad nauseum. Having been burned by reprints in the past I always look at the publication page. I don&#8217;t know about the ebook to pub thing, but presumably there&#8217;d be something that to indicate that it was published before in ebook form.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelly - How can readers be smart about it?  St. Martin&#039;s Press bought several of Cheyenne McCray&#039;s EC novels/novellas from EC (8 or 11).  Let&#039;s assume, for the sake of argument, that she wouldn&#039;t be allowed to rewrite them (which she is), and SMP released them, one every other month.  These are older books.  Maybe they aren&#039;t as polished but they appear to be &quot;new&quot; books.  A reader, unless, she haunts McCray&#039;s blog might never have known that these were &quot;early&quot; works or &quot;learner&quot; books.

That&#039;s the point I was trying to make in the Susan Grant example.  Readers don&#039;t know that it is a charity anthology or that purchasing one book is really a charitable donation and to get a bigger, fuller story, you have to buy a second anthology.  There&#039;s no mark on the inside cover to let you know that this was previously published in &quot;e&quot;.  

As the &quot;e&quot; market grows bigger, I see this as an increasing problem.  Readers should have the choice whether to purchase a rewritten novel or not.  Some readers, TP e.g., might like it.  Other may not.  I don&#039;t necessarily blame the authors but a book is inextricably connected to the author. like it or not.  To the reader, the buck stops with the author. For reprints not clearly marked, to early novels being put forth as &quot;new&quot; books, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly &#8211; How can readers be smart about it?  St. Martin&#8217;s Press bought several of Cheyenne McCray&#8217;s EC novels/novellas from EC (8 or 11).  Let&#8217;s assume, for the sake of argument, that she wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to rewrite them (which she is), and SMP released them, one every other month.  These are older books.  Maybe they aren&#8217;t as polished but they appear to be &#8220;new&#8221; books.  A reader, unless, she haunts McCray&#8217;s blog might never have known that these were &#8220;early&#8221; works or &#8220;learner&#8221; books.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the point I was trying to make in the Susan Grant example.  Readers don&#8217;t know that it is a charity anthology or that purchasing one book is really a charitable donation and to get a bigger, fuller story, you have to buy a second anthology.  There&#8217;s no mark on the inside cover to let you know that this was previously published in &#8220;e&#8221;.  </p>
<p>As the &#8220;e&#8221; market grows bigger, I see this as an increasing problem.  Readers should have the choice whether to purchase a rewritten novel or not.  Some readers, TP e.g., might like it.  Other may not.  I don&#8217;t necessarily blame the authors but a book is inextricably connected to the author. like it or not.  To the reader, the buck stops with the author. For reprints not clearly marked, to early novels being put forth as &#8220;new&#8221; books, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly @ Bewitched</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly @ Bewitched</dc:creator>
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		<description>I can see where this would be a double edged sword.  But I would also hope that readers would be smart about it.  I always take into account the fact that I might not like all the author&#039;s earlier works but that wouldn&#039;t have an effect on my buying.  I&#039;m more likely to drop you if I love you and then read a book &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; that one that seems to be a step back in writing skill.  

But when I love an author, I want everything off their back list, so we have 2 scenarios &lt;strong&gt;A)&lt;/strong&gt; I stalk eBay, Half.com and my local UBS stores looking for all the back list or I can &lt;strong&gt;B)&lt;/strong&gt; Buy them brand new when they are re-issued and the author gets their cut.  Just MHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see where this would be a double edged sword.  But I would also hope that readers would be smart about it.  I always take into account the fact that I might not like all the author&#8217;s earlier works but that wouldn&#8217;t have an effect on my buying.  I&#8217;m more likely to drop you if I love you and then read a book <em>after</em> that one that seems to be a step back in writing skill.  </p>
<p>But when I love an author, I want everything off their back list, so we have 2 scenarios <strong>A)</strong> I stalk eBay, Half.com and my local UBS stores looking for all the back list or I can <strong>B)</strong> Buy them brand new when they are re-issued and the author gets their cut.  Just MHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Pig</dc:creator>
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		<description>I love when authors revamp their books for reprint. If I liked the old one warts and all then it&#039;s an investment to purchase it that way, like picking up a hardcover first edition. If I like what they did to revamp the story then it&#039;s a big win for them. 

Many many books that are consider classics Tolkien or CS Lewis were expanded and re-written reprinted updated again and again by their authors and some even by others.

To think that once a book is written it remains stagnant is to ignore what has always gone on in publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love when authors revamp their books for reprint. If I liked the old one warts and all then it&#8217;s an investment to purchase it that way, like picking up a hardcover first edition. If I like what they did to revamp the story then it&#8217;s a big win for them. </p>
<p>Many many books that are consider classics Tolkien or CS Lewis were expanded and re-written reprinted updated again and again by their authors and some even by others.</p>
<p>To think that once a book is written it remains stagnant is to ignore what has always gone on in publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Until I visited the website, from what Iâ€™ve gleaned from the talk of reviewers, I assumed Samhain was an erotic romance e-publisher. </p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is because most review sites seem to focus on erotic romance. Sadly, we don&#8217;t have any power over what the review sites choose to place their emphasis on. We make all of our books available to them for review and actively seek review sites that will take the non-erotic and especially non-romance books, but those are very difficult to find in the online community and those that aren&#8217;t online sometimes require a print copy, so sometimes reviews have to wait until the book goes to print. </p>
<blockquote><p> Is Samhain now going to earnestly solicit non-erotic titles?  </p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;ve always earnestly acquired all genres. I think I can safely say that when you read interviews with me, you don&#8217;t see me asking for erotic romance. I&#8217;m asking for sci-fi, for multiculturals, for inspirationals, and westerns, etc.  </p>
<blockquote><p>What about â€œmulticulturalâ€? titlesâ€“how are they going to deal with those?</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly the same way we always have. Just like every other book.</p>
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