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		<title>By: Pride &#38; RWA Precedence: The Devil&#8217;s Advocate &#124; The Naughty Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pride &#38; RWA Precedence: The Devil&#8217;s Advocate &#124; The Naughty Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Great Triskelion Publishing Fiasco so I will try to just point out the highlights. Here and Here and Here and finally Here. It is very much a cautionary tale for writers looking at ePublishing and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Great Triskelion Publishing Fiasco so I will try to just point out the highlights. Here and Here and Here and finally Here. It is very much a cautionary tale for writers looking at ePublishing and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Smith-author</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith-author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon If a company is under investigation, they speak to all employees. ALL. Not just unhappy ones. Not just happy ones. ALL. It&#039;s how a thorough investigation is done. But RWA isn&#039;t going to do an investigation. The most they will probably do is require Trisk to reapply for recognition.

As for staff changes, what right does RWA have to  say there can&#039;t be staff changes or staff changes are a sign of a problem. EC had a huge staff change not long ago. And what did RWA do? Nothing. 

The discussion keeps going off course every time Anon pipes up. If you want to discuss the issues, discuss them, but stop belittling everyone that&#039;s happy there. You apparently had a bad experince, doesn&#039;t mean everyone else has to just because you did. If you want people to take you seriously, then say your name. Tell us who you are and give us ACTUAL examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon If a company is under investigation, they speak to all employees. ALL. Not just unhappy ones. Not just happy ones. ALL. It&#8217;s how a thorough investigation is done. But RWA isn&#8217;t going to do an investigation. The most they will probably do is require Trisk to reapply for recognition.</p>
<p>As for staff changes, what right does RWA have to  say there can&#8217;t be staff changes or staff changes are a sign of a problem. EC had a huge staff change not long ago. And what did RWA do? Nothing. </p>
<p>The discussion keeps going off course every time Anon pipes up. If you want to discuss the issues, discuss them, but stop belittling everyone that&#8217;s happy there. You apparently had a bad experince, doesn&#8217;t mean everyone else has to just because you did. If you want people to take you seriously, then say your name. Tell us who you are and give us ACTUAL examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about how ebooks go to press or anything, but Mundania&#039;s website is a little difficult for me to navigate because when I pull up your name and a book on the home page, I invariably get someone else&#039;s book info instead.  Plus there&#039;s no sense of when things are being released.  It feels as if the enterprise isn&#039;t totally together yet.  But I&#039;m still waiting for that series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about how ebooks go to press or anything, but Mundania&#8217;s website is a little difficult for me to navigate because when I pull up your name and a book on the home page, I invariably get someone else&#8217;s book info instead.  Plus there&#8217;s no sense of when things are being released.  It feels as if the enterprise isn&#8217;t totally together yet.  But I&#8217;m still waiting for that series.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne Connolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked again this week about Richard and Rose.
I keep trying to push them along a little bit - it&#039;s getting very frustrating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked again this week about Richard and Rose.<br />
I keep trying to push them along a little bit &#8211; it&#8217;s getting very frustrating!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want Lynne Connolly&#039;s Richard and Rose series -- any firm date as to when those will be released (and are they still going to be released by Mundania)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want Lynne Connolly&#8217;s Richard and Rose series &#8212; any firm date as to when those will be released (and are they still going to be released by Mundania)?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne Connolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your analogy doesn&#039;t really work.
Instead, say an event is witnessed by 100 witnesses and the police take the word of 3 or 4 of them, over the rest. They don&#039;t even interview the rest. 
Biased, or not? By the laws of probability, yes, biased. You investigate a crime by questioning the victim, the attacker, and as many witnesses as you can find. 
So in your case you ask as many bystanders as you can find if they saw the act and what they saw. 

It&#039;s your choice, at the end of the day. There are no outstanding debts to authors at Triskelion, the 20 or so cheques that were drawn on the wrong account were rectified as soon as the mistake was discovered. Believe it or not, as you wish. 

Furthermore, there is no breach of contract that I&#039;m aware of. Triskelion had to renege on some promises, but these were not contracted and they regret that sincerely, but the print program would have led to the company going bankrupt, if it had not been cut back and controlled better.

Triskelion is a new company. I am willing to cut them some slack, especially considering the favors they have done me which I don&#039;t really want to go into details about. I&#039;m also aware of things they have done for other people which have gone above and beyond their obligations. 

I can think of 2 authors with NY pubs in the last 5 years or so who went public with accusations of breach of contract. One ended well, but only after protracted negotiations, the other didn&#039;t. But I would still send submissions to that publisher, because that was 2 authors out of hundreds, and for all I know it could have been individual idiosyncrasies. 

I want numbers and I want facts. Failing that, I want the majority decision. I don&#039;t base any business decisions on the basis of a few anonymous opinions, however they are reported and whoever they were reported to. In this case, I am making my decision on the basis of established fact - the way I&#039;ve been treated as an author at Triskelion, and the full and frank way the situation was explained to us. Other publishers have not been so forthcoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analogy doesn&#8217;t really work.<br />
Instead, say an event is witnessed by 100 witnesses and the police take the word of 3 or 4 of them, over the rest. They don&#8217;t even interview the rest.<br />
Biased, or not? By the laws of probability, yes, biased. You investigate a crime by questioning the victim, the attacker, and as many witnesses as you can find.<br />
So in your case you ask as many bystanders as you can find if they saw the act and what they saw. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s your choice, at the end of the day. There are no outstanding debts to authors at Triskelion, the 20 or so cheques that were drawn on the wrong account were rectified as soon as the mistake was discovered. Believe it or not, as you wish. </p>
<p>Furthermore, there is no breach of contract that I&#8217;m aware of. Triskelion had to renege on some promises, but these were not contracted and they regret that sincerely, but the print program would have led to the company going bankrupt, if it had not been cut back and controlled better.</p>
<p>Triskelion is a new company. I am willing to cut them some slack, especially considering the favors they have done me which I don&#8217;t really want to go into details about. I&#8217;m also aware of things they have done for other people which have gone above and beyond their obligations. </p>
<p>I can think of 2 authors with NY pubs in the last 5 years or so who went public with accusations of breach of contract. One ended well, but only after protracted negotiations, the other didn&#8217;t. But I would still send submissions to that publisher, because that was 2 authors out of hundreds, and for all I know it could have been individual idiosyncrasies. </p>
<p>I want numbers and I want facts. Failing that, I want the majority decision. I don&#8217;t base any business decisions on the basis of a few anonymous opinions, however they are reported and whoever they were reported to. In this case, I am making my decision on the basis of established fact &#8211; the way I&#8217;ve been treated as an author at Triskelion, and the full and frank way the situation was explained to us. Other publishers have not been so forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Posting anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie, why on earth would RWA investigate specific instances of fraud, theft, and/or breach of contract by asking other authors if they were happy?

Do you investigate a crime by asking bystanders if the suspect stole their purse, too, and if they refrained from doing so the thief gets to go home instead of to jail?

Seriously, that&#039;s the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever heard. This is business, not high school. When an author at a NY pub makes accusations of missed royalty payments and breach of contract it&#039;s news, and you know why? Because it shouldn&#039;t and doesn&#039;t happen with any regularity. 

Does it seriously not even bother you that your publisher has treated people this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie, why on earth would RWA investigate specific instances of fraud, theft, and/or breach of contract by asking other authors if they were happy?</p>
<p>Do you investigate a crime by asking bystanders if the suspect stole their purse, too, and if they refrained from doing so the thief gets to go home instead of to jail?</p>
<p>Seriously, that&#8217;s the most ridiculous thing I&#8217;ve ever heard. This is business, not high school. When an author at a NY pub makes accusations of missed royalty payments and breach of contract it&#8217;s news, and you know why? Because it shouldn&#8217;t and doesn&#8217;t happen with any regularity. </p>
<p>Does it seriously not even bother you that your publisher has treated people this way?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But then I find the RWA kind of a baffling creature to begin with.&lt;/i&gt;


RWA is not the only writers organization that revisits these matters and sets such policies.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://leegoldberg.typepad.com/a_writers_life/2007/05/getting_tough_i.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mystery Writers of America has recently done the same thing.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But then I find the RWA kind of a baffling creature to begin with.</i></p>
<p>RWA is not the only writers organization that revisits these matters and sets such policies.  <a href="http://leegoldberg.typepad.com/a_writers_life/2007/05/getting_tough_i.html" rel="nofollow">Mystery Writers of America has recently done the same thing.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Caro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 13:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up thread, I wrote about events regarding the Meteor/Kismet closing.  I was apparently mistaken in my comments regarding the copany and for that I am sorry.  I should have stopped to check some things, but didn&#039;t.

My point, regardless of what sparked the situation, is that there have been members who, any time a &quot;recognized&quot; publisher gets into trouble, the cries go up of &quot;why didn&#039;t you warn us.&quot;  There are always people who don&#039;t research and take the presence of a publisher at conference as a seal of approval and the situation is far older than ebooks, digital printing or the growth of the small presses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up thread, I wrote about events regarding the Meteor/Kismet closing.  I was apparently mistaken in my comments regarding the copany and for that I am sorry.  I should have stopped to check some things, but didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My point, regardless of what sparked the situation, is that there have been members who, any time a &#8220;recognized&#8221; publisher gets into trouble, the cries go up of &#8220;why didn&#8217;t you warn us.&#8221;  There are always people who don&#8217;t research and take the presence of a publisher at conference as a seal of approval and the situation is far older than ebooks, digital printing or the growth of the small presses.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like to me that authors really need to read their contracts carefully.  Lynn Connolly has pointed out that she has, and has found no breach of contract.  Print is offered, but not promised....again...not promised.  If an author is told that she will be in print, then the publisher personally told her...when things change, I don&#039;t think that means there has been a breach of contract.

All the accusations against Triskelion seem to have been explained by either Gail, or it&#039;s authors here on the blog.  RWA needs to make an unbiased investigation, not only listen to *disgruntled* authors, but also those that are quite happy with Triskelion.

AND...no publicity is bad publicity...if nothing else comes of this, Triskelion&#039;s name is out there...hehe!!!

Valerie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like to me that authors really need to read their contracts carefully.  Lynn Connolly has pointed out that she has, and has found no breach of contract.  Print is offered, but not promised&#8230;.again&#8230;not promised.  If an author is told that she will be in print, then the publisher personally told her&#8230;when things change, I don&#8217;t think that means there has been a breach of contract.</p>
<p>All the accusations against Triskelion seem to have been explained by either Gail, or it&#8217;s authors here on the blog.  RWA needs to make an unbiased investigation, not only listen to *disgruntled* authors, but also those that are quite happy with Triskelion.</p>
<p>AND&#8230;no publicity is bad publicity&#8230;if nothing else comes of this, Triskelion&#8217;s name is out there&#8230;hehe!!!</p>
<p>Valerie</p>
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