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		<title>By: Dear Author.Com &#124; Kink by Saskia Walker and Sasha White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Author.Com &#124; Kink by Saskia Walker and Sasha White</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] flipped to Sasha&#8217;s story. I came back, though to finish it, about the time we were having the DNF dilemna and I couldn&#8217;t make it past the fifth chapter and rather than forcing myself, I gave [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] flipped to Sasha&#8217;s story. I came back, though to finish it, about the time we were having the DNF dilemna and I couldn&#8217;t make it past the fifth chapter and rather than forcing myself, I gave [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tia Nevitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tia Nevitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny how tastes change. I recently found a book that I loved twenty years ago and bought it with the hope of revisiting an old friend. I got over halfway through the book and encountered a plot twist that I had forgotten about . . . and that I hated. I thought it was silly and contrived. I put the book down and never picked it up again.

I never force myself to finish a book that I have no interest in. But it does not mean that the book is worse than an F. It is a matter of taste. When I was a girl, I loved this book enough to read it to tatters. Now, I can't be bothered to finish it. I would still give it a B in light of my former feelings for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how tastes change. I recently found a book that I loved twenty years ago and bought it with the hope of revisiting an old friend. I got over halfway through the book and encountered a plot twist that I had forgotten about . . . and that I hated. I thought it was silly and contrived. I put the book down and never picked it up again.</p>
<p>I never force myself to finish a book that I have no interest in. But it does not mean that the book is worse than an F. It is a matter of taste. When I was a girl, I loved this book enough to read it to tatters. Now, I can&#8217;t be bothered to finish it. I would still give it a B in light of my former feelings for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Suisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. 

I can just tell that this is going to be a long comment. Hang in there; I have a point, I swear.

I write on my blog about things I react to. My posts are my reactions. Sometimes, in order to get everyone on the same page, I have to give a plot summary, a character synopsis, and an example of what struck me about the book. THEN I can talk about my reaction to the book (or movie, or political discussion, or horse). Taken as a whole, when writing about books, the thing looks like a review. But I don't think it really is.

To make my point, I need to give an example. (See how this works?) I tried to read Anne Stuart's &lt;em&gt;Prince of Magic&lt;/em&gt;, and it was a DNF. But I never blogged about it because I had absolutely no reaction to the experience of reading it. I could see its technical merits, and all that, but I neither loved nor hated nor was bored by the book. There's nothing there to write about. (At this point, if I had the job of reviewing a book, I could have continued reading, pulled out my literary criticism hat, and written an objective commentary and analysi. But I didn't.)

A few months ago, I pulled the book out again and read it in one sitting. This time it engaged me, and I would have had more to say about it in a post. However, I never wrote about it on my blog, because really, there wasn't much there which struck ME as new, unique, interesting (or on the other hand, derivative, corny, or oddly plotted). I started putting something together about it, because I thought I should, but it never jelled.

So, yeah, it was a DNF, but it wasn't either a positive or negative DNF. I wrote enough papers about literatoor as an undergrad that I've lost the interest in doing that exercise. So I didn't review it, but neither do I feel any conflict about not doing so.

Another DNF was Isabelle Allende's &lt;em&gt;Zorro&lt;/em&gt;, which I was very disappointed not to have finished. I wasn't angry at the book, and I don't think I snarked on it, but I was struck by &lt;em&gt;my own&lt;/em&gt; disappointment in the experience of trying to finish it, that I blogged about the book.

A "professional reviewer" is to some extent obligated to deliver the goods.  Some reviews are passionate and wonderful to read, but there are others which just sit on the page. All of that's fine. However, I see blogging as a completely different enterprise with a different audience and intent.

We are trying to learn what other reader's reactions are to the books. Perhaps we will try to duplicate that reaction by reading a book someone raved about, or perhaps we are intrigued to sample some aspect of a book which did not work for the blogger which could very well appeal to us, the readers of the blog. 

So much of the "upset" about reviewing books on the internet by bloggers comes, I think, from not recognizing that all of the blog posts are in some way reactions. Personal reactions to a personal experience. 

So, to sum up (good grief, woman!) my rule is that if it's your blog, you can do or say what you will. Others can and will react as they will. (Wait. Didn't Sybil say that like 3 days ago using many less words?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. </p>
<p>I can just tell that this is going to be a long comment. Hang in there; I have a point, I swear.</p>
<p>I write on my blog about things I react to. My posts are my reactions. Sometimes, in order to get everyone on the same page, I have to give a plot summary, a character synopsis, and an example of what struck me about the book. THEN I can talk about my reaction to the book (or movie, or political discussion, or horse). Taken as a whole, when writing about books, the thing looks like a review. But I don&#8217;t think it really is.</p>
<p>To make my point, I need to give an example. (See how this works?) I tried to read Anne Stuart&#8217;s <em>Prince of Magic</em>, and it was a DNF. But I never blogged about it because I had absolutely no reaction to the experience of reading it. I could see its technical merits, and all that, but I neither loved nor hated nor was bored by the book. There&#8217;s nothing there to write about. (At this point, if I had the job of reviewing a book, I could have continued reading, pulled out my literary criticism hat, and written an objective commentary and analysi. But I didn&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>A few months ago, I pulled the book out again and read it in one sitting. This time it engaged me, and I would have had more to say about it in a post. However, I never wrote about it on my blog, because really, there wasn&#8217;t much there which struck ME as new, unique, interesting (or on the other hand, derivative, corny, or oddly plotted). I started putting something together about it, because I thought I should, but it never jelled.</p>
<p>So, yeah, it was a DNF, but it wasn&#8217;t either a positive or negative DNF. I wrote enough papers about literatoor as an undergrad that I&#8217;ve lost the interest in doing that exercise. So I didn&#8217;t review it, but neither do I feel any conflict about not doing so.</p>
<p>Another DNF was Isabelle Allende&#8217;s <em>Zorro</em>, which I was very disappointed not to have finished. I wasn&#8217;t angry at the book, and I don&#8217;t think I snarked on it, but I was struck by <em>my own</em> disappointment in the experience of trying to finish it, that I blogged about the book.</p>
<p>A &#8220;professional reviewer&#8221; is to some extent obligated to deliver the goods.  Some reviews are passionate and wonderful to read, but there are others which just sit on the page. All of that&#8217;s fine. However, I see blogging as a completely different enterprise with a different audience and intent.</p>
<p>We are trying to learn what other reader&#8217;s reactions are to the books. Perhaps we will try to duplicate that reaction by reading a book someone raved about, or perhaps we are intrigued to sample some aspect of a book which did not work for the blogger which could very well appeal to us, the readers of the blog. </p>
<p>So much of the &#8220;upset&#8221; about reviewing books on the internet by bloggers comes, I think, from not recognizing that all of the blog posts are in some way reactions. Personal reactions to a personal experience. </p>
<p>So, to sum up (good grief, woman!) my rule is that if it&#8217;s your blog, you can do or say what you will. Others can and will react as they will. (Wait. Didn&#8217;t Sybil say that like 3 days ago using many less words?)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrice Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrice Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with several of you on the "too many books too little time" issue.  I used to finish every single book I started. I guess I felt I had to, but now with deadlines and life in general limiting my reading time I have several DNF books in my reading stack...as well as many books still to be read. LOL!

I agree with Jaci about the reviews on Dear Author. I check by everyday to read reviews, catch up on news and follow and/or participate in interesting discussions. When books have been given lower ratings and even when they've been given glowing ones, the reviewer usually spells out what didn't work as well as the positive aspects of the story. To me, that's a balanced, honest review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with several of you on the &#8220;too many books too little time&#8221; issue.  I used to finish every single book I started. I guess I felt I had to, but now with deadlines and life in general limiting my reading time I have several DNF books in my reading stack&#8230;as well as many books still to be read. LOL!</p>
<p>I agree with Jaci about the reviews on Dear Author. I check by everyday to read reviews, catch up on news and follow and/or participate in interesting discussions. When books have been given lower ratings and even when they&#8217;ve been given glowing ones, the reviewer usually spells out what didn&#8217;t work as well as the positive aspects of the story. To me, that&#8217;s a balanced, honest review.</p>
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		<title>By: ag</title>
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		<dc:creator>ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to try to finish every single book, but sometimes I just couldn't bring myself to continue. It's a 'me' issue -- sometimes it's the plot premise, or the timing of my reading.

Case in point: The Princess Bride and The Lord of the Rings.  I think the timing was all wrong when I picked up those books, so when I reread them, I made it a point to give it due attention and justice. And it worked.

That said, it'd be interesting to find out why a reader DNF a book. As DC so rightly put it, we all know the opinions are subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to try to finish every single book, but sometimes I just couldn&#8217;t bring myself to continue. It&#8217;s a &#8216;me&#8217; issue &#8212; sometimes it&#8217;s the plot premise, or the timing of my reading.</p>
<p>Case in point: The Princess Bride and The Lord of the Rings.  I think the timing was all wrong when I picked up those books, so when I reread them, I made it a point to give it due attention and justice. And it worked.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;d be interesting to find out why a reader DNF a book. As DC so rightly put it, we all know the opinions are subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So yes, by your standards I'm not a serious reviewer. But I never claimed to be one. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Janine,

I'm not a serious reviewer by those standards either.  Nor, have I ever claimed to be or want to be.  The thing is, even though dee and I are starting to get books sent to us, we make it clear we'll be honest about what we though but never cruel.  But the number of books we are getting isn't huge, and we buy most of the books we review.  Still, I have a few I bought in October last year that I haven't read past the first few pages because I *cannot* make myself.  I got as far as page 4 on one and gave up.  I still may pick it up again someday if I have nothing else to read.

I'm just a TDB to waste my time on reading books that I can't dig.  Okay, that's not entirely true, I've read some stinkers, but the ones that I have to force myself to read?  Aint gonna happen.  

I honestly don't think I'll ever be a "serious reviewer", but that isn't going to stop me from posting my opinions on the books I read.  Read it or not, it will be there.  As far as the DNF, the ones I have, I haven't even read enough to tell you what the heck they are about, or I would probably post about them, too.  The way your readers get to know if they want to take your advice about a book being good is if they see what kinds of books you didn't like, JMO, of course, not worth much.

I'm still working on my take on the whole genre thing, see busy!  

You guys are great, and I love reading your reviews.  Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So yes, by your standards I&#8217;m not a serious reviewer. But I never claimed to be one. </p></blockquote>
<p>Janine,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a serious reviewer by those standards either.  Nor, have I ever claimed to be or want to be.  The thing is, even though dee and I are starting to get books sent to us, we make it clear we&#8217;ll be honest about what we though but never cruel.  But the number of books we are getting isn&#8217;t huge, and we buy most of the books we review.  Still, I have a few I bought in October last year that I haven&#8217;t read past the first few pages because I *cannot* make myself.  I got as far as page 4 on one and gave up.  I still may pick it up again someday if I have nothing else to read.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a TDB to waste my time on reading books that I can&#8217;t dig.  Okay, that&#8217;s not entirely true, I&#8217;ve read some stinkers, but the ones that I have to force myself to read?  Aint gonna happen.  </p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever be a &#8220;serious reviewer&#8221;, but that isn&#8217;t going to stop me from posting my opinions on the books I read.  Read it or not, it will be there.  As far as the DNF, the ones I have, I haven&#8217;t even read enough to tell you what the heck they are about, or I would probably post about them, too.  The way your readers get to know if they want to take your advice about a book being good is if they see what kinds of books you didn&#8217;t like, JMO, of course, not worth much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still working on my take on the whole genre thing, see busy!  </p>
<p>You guys are great, and I love reading your reviews.  Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dee and Jaci Burton, thanks for your kind words.

And everyone, thank you for weighing in on this issue.  You've given me a lot to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dee and Jaci Burton, thanks for your kind words.</p>
<p>And everyone, thank you for weighing in on this issue.  You&#8217;ve given me a lot to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="21228"]If you are a serious reivewer you have the responsibity to finish the book. If you can't tough it out, you should hand it over to a reviewer who can finish it. A book consists of a beginning, a middle and a conclusion. You are doing a disservice to the author and the reader if you can't complete it.  A DNF is not a review. It only means that you couldn't be bothered to read from the beginning to the end.[/quote]

Riley, I well understand this viewpoint and have given it some thought.  Maybe the truth of the situation is that I'm not what you consider a serious reviewer.  Yes, I'm getting free ARCs but I'm not being financially compensated for my time, and my time is more valuable to me than the cost of a book.  Even as it is, it's not easy for me to find the time to write for Dear Author.  My compensation is the enjoyment I get out of reading and blogging, and when I reach the point of not enjoying it, I will stop doing it.  If that makes me something other than a serious reviewer, so be it.

As I have explained, forcing myself to a book I don't want to read more of will only make me like it less, and make it difficult to judge the book fairly.  And as Jane has said, we have a small enough staff that passing the book to someone else who will want to read it isn't practical.  That being the case, what you suggest isn't really an option.  So yes, by your standards I'm not a serious reviewer.  But I never claimed to be one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21228"]If you are a serious reivewer you have the responsibity to finish the book. If you can&#8217;t tough it out, you should hand it over to a reviewer who can finish it. A book consists of a beginning, a middle and a conclusion. You are doing a disservice to the author and the reader if you can&#8217;t complete it.  A DNF is not a review. It only means that you couldn&#8217;t be bothered to read from the beginning to the end.[/quote]</p>
<p>Riley, I well understand this viewpoint and have given it some thought.  Maybe the truth of the situation is that I&#8217;m not what you consider a serious reviewer.  Yes, I&#8217;m getting free ARCs but I&#8217;m not being financially compensated for my time, and my time is more valuable to me than the cost of a book.  Even as it is, it&#8217;s not easy for me to find the time to write for Dear Author.  My compensation is the enjoyment I get out of reading and blogging, and when I reach the point of not enjoying it, I will stop doing it.  If that makes me something other than a serious reviewer, so be it.</p>
<p>As I have explained, forcing myself to a book I don&#8217;t want to read more of will only make me like it less, and make it difficult to judge the book fairly.  And as Jane has said, we have a small enough staff that passing the book to someone else who will want to read it isn&#8217;t practical.  That being the case, what you suggest isn&#8217;t really an option.  So yes, by your standards I&#8217;m not a serious reviewer.  But I never claimed to be one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first started getting ARCs from publishers, I did feel like a) I had to review them all and b) if I didn't like them, I felt terrible.  Then bookseller friend, who gets about 5 times the arcs that I get, told me that publishers don't expect positive reviews.  They are just hopeful.  They also don't expect every book to be read.  I figured she would know and that's when we crafted some kind of submission policy so that everyone knows what the deal is here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first started getting ARCs from publishers, I did feel like a) I had to review them all and b) if I didn&#8217;t like them, I felt terrible.  Then bookseller friend, who gets about 5 times the arcs that I get, told me that publishers don&#8217;t expect positive reviews.  They are just hopeful.  They also don&#8217;t expect every book to be read.  I figured she would know and that&#8217;s when we crafted some kind of submission policy so that everyone knows what the deal is here.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="21223"]And in another area - I've never accepted books for review even though I've been approached a couple of times.  First off - when asked, I feel an obligation to read it.  And I'm much more of a 'where the wind takes me' kind of reader.  As soon as I feel I &lt;strong&gt;have &lt;/strong&gt;to review a book, that takes the wind right out of my reading sails.  And then there's the fact that I would think because I was getting it for freee - I'm almost obligated to like it.  And I don't like that pressure either.[/quote]

I don't feel that kind of obligation because I think even the reviewers at major publications, such as New York Times Book Review, don't  review every book they get an ARC of, or write positive reviews because they didn't have to pay for the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21223"]And in another area - I&#8217;ve never accepted books for review even though I&#8217;ve been approached a couple of times.  First off - when asked, I feel an obligation to read it.  And I&#8217;m much more of a &#8216;where the wind takes me&#8217; kind of reader.  As soon as I feel I <strong>have </strong>to review a book, that takes the wind right out of my reading sails.  And then there&#8217;s the fact that I would think because I was getting it for freee - I&#8217;m almost obligated to like it.  And I don&#8217;t like that pressure either.[/quote]</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel that kind of obligation because I think even the reviewers at major publications, such as New York Times Book Review, don&#8217;t  review every book they get an ARC of, or write positive reviews because they didn&#8217;t have to pay for the book.</p>
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