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		<title>By: andreas04: close to attraction</title>
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		<dc:creator>andreas04: close to attraction</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] still chewing on the discussion going on over on Dear Author. This time it was a comment by Robin that caught my attention. I also realize that not everyone is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: andreas04: close to attraction</title>
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		<description>[...] a discussion going on over on Dear Author about readers buying used books. Well, that&#8217;s not entirely the point of the discussion, which is why I decided to retreat to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane replies:
August 28th, 2006 &#124; Quote 
This is kind of veering off topic, but I think shelf life is part of the reason that mid list authors can&#039;t make it, particularly category romance writers. Category romance books are only available a short time and there is generally very little pre pub buzz. By the time people are talking about a category, that book is gone. Ebook format allows a book, like a category, to have longer life. I think it would be interesting to see whether authors are seeing increased sell throughs with their books being available in ebook format.

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Jane, check out what Misty Lackey has to say about e-books and how they extend the life of a series or catagory.  Hmm, I was going to quote her but I can&#039;t find the site. However, loosely paraphrasing it as I remember it it goes something along these lines. Once she started having some of her books released in e-format she found that her backlist recieved a boost and her older series started selling again.

Time, it takes time for readers to find a book sometimes. Often more than the month that&#039;s available for a romance. Or as often happens to me I&#039;ll find a book by an author, enjoy it and then want to read more by that author but can&#039;t find the older books. The benefits, to the authors, of having their books available in e-book are enormous, but the benefits to the reader are just as great. Now if we can only confince the *Publishers*!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane replies:<br />
August 28th, 2006 | Quote<br />
This is kind of veering off topic, but I think shelf life is part of the reason that mid list authors can&#8217;t make it, particularly category romance writers. Category romance books are only available a short time and there is generally very little pre pub buzz. By the time people are talking about a category, that book is gone. Ebook format allows a book, like a category, to have longer life. I think it would be interesting to see whether authors are seeing increased sell throughs with their books being available in ebook format.</p>
<p>***<br />
Jane, check out what Misty Lackey has to say about e-books and how they extend the life of a series or catagory.  Hmm, I was going to quote her but I can&#8217;t find the site. However, loosely paraphrasing it as I remember it it goes something along these lines. Once she started having some of her books released in e-format she found that her backlist recieved a boost and her older series started selling again.</p>
<p>Time, it takes time for readers to find a book sometimes. Often more than the month that&#8217;s available for a romance. Or as often happens to me I&#8217;ll find a book by an author, enjoy it and then want to read more by that author but can&#8217;t find the older books. The benefits, to the authors, of having their books available in e-book are enormous, but the benefits to the reader are just as great. Now if we can only confince the *Publishers*!</p>
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		<title>By: mariannna</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariannna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im late, but RE: the library: what sucks is that the very forma chosen for the romance genre is what keeps it from being stock in libraries. paperbacks are  not formats libraries are fond of because they are a chore to take care off--think of your own library. Who gets ordered? Hardcovers and sometimes trade paperbacks because they&#039;re easier to take care of, not to mention they go nicely with on the shelves with the older titles.. But the way the romance genre is run, they rarely, if ever release debut authors in hardcovers the way other genres do.

A little off topic. it&#039;s been noted that the baby boomers are flocking to the HC and TPB format, which is why the mass market paperback has suffered, and younger readers aren&#039;t replacing those baby boomers. Which is funny because most teen fiction is published in TPB and HC--why is the romance genre one of the few genres where everyone (but mega bestsellers) is given MMPBs ad along with that, the chance to break-out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im late, but RE: the library: what sucks is that the very forma chosen for the romance genre is what keeps it from being stock in libraries. paperbacks are  not formats libraries are fond of because they are a chore to take care off&#8211;think of your own library. Who gets ordered? Hardcovers and sometimes trade paperbacks because they&#8217;re easier to take care of, not to mention they go nicely with on the shelves with the older titles.. But the way the romance genre is run, they rarely, if ever release debut authors in hardcovers the way other genres do.</p>
<p>A little off topic. it&#8217;s been noted that the baby boomers are flocking to the HC and TPB format, which is why the mass market paperback has suffered, and younger readers aren&#8217;t replacing those baby boomers. Which is funny because most teen fiction is published in TPB and HC&#8211;why is the romance genre one of the few genres where everyone (but mega bestsellers) is given MMPBs ad along with that, the chance to break-out?</p>
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		<title>By: Miki S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miki S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed when I was doing my taxes that almost all my print book purchases last year were used.  I realized that somewhere along the line, I&#039;d made a subconscious decision to buy only ebooks new.  So it&#039;s a rare purchase, now, for me to buy print new.

I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said it was ridiculous that ebooks are often sold for the same price as print.  When you read that an author receives $0.36 per book, you have to assume that much of the rest is printing, shipping, storage, destruction.  Yes, promotion and editing costs would be static.  But the difference must be pure profit for publishers!  So frustrating!

Especially when you consider my ebook will never show up in a UBS or library tag sale.  It will only be swapped with a friend if I&#039;m willing to loan my ebook reader!  (And since the DRM format I purchase requires the entry of my credit card number to first open the book, there&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to let a pirated version float around in the ethernet, even if I wanted to!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed when I was doing my taxes that almost all my print book purchases last year were used.  I realized that somewhere along the line, I&#8217;d made a subconscious decision to buy only ebooks new.  So it&#8217;s a rare purchase, now, for me to buy print new.</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said it was ridiculous that ebooks are often sold for the same price as print.  When you read that an author receives $0.36 per book, you have to assume that much of the rest is printing, shipping, storage, destruction.  Yes, promotion and editing costs would be static.  But the difference must be pure profit for publishers!  So frustrating!</p>
<p>Especially when you consider my ebook will never show up in a UBS or library tag sale.  It will only be swapped with a friend if I&#8217;m willing to loan my ebook reader!  (And since the DRM format I purchase requires the entry of my credit card number to first open the book, there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to let a pirated version float around in the ethernet, even if I wanted to!)</p>
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		<title>By: Shiloh Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiloh Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; What about the used book store owners themselves? &lt;/em&gt;  The UBS owners have been hit really hard with the emergence of ebay and amazon marketplace.  

Most of the brick and mortar UBS that I know have had to develop a website just to stay in business.  I know some of gone out of business.

I don&#039;t have any issue with UBS, period.  Back when I was 19 and broke, that was the only place I could afford to buy a book.  People who consider them bottomfeeders probably need to take a hard look at reality.

While yes, I&#039;d love it if all of my readers bought only new, and right on the day of release, it&#039;s a fact of life that isn&#039;t going to happen.  People have to prioritize and if that means they are going to buy some of their books used because they have to buy shoes for their kids, I&#039;m fine with that.  I know what it&#039;s like to be tight on money.

And UBS store owners have to make a living just like anybody else.  They aren&#039;t doing anything illegal and like I said before, a UBS can be an author&#039;s best friend.  That is how a LOT of readers find new faves.  And most readers, when they have a fave, they want the books nice and shiny and new.  People who consider the UBS owners bottomfeeders need to step back and take a long, hard look at reality.

Ebooks are a whole different subject, in my opinion.  An ebook is a file... one that can be copied, shared, indescrimately, forever.  You don&#039;t have just ONE copy~you can sell the file and keep your copy.  That&#039;s piracy and that IS illegal.  I know of one ebayer who kept selling ebooks, &lt;em&gt;the same titles&lt;/em&gt; repeatedly, until Ebay finally stepped in.  Before they made her stop, she&#039;d sold those files enough to have made hundreds of dollars.  No work on her part, and she was stealing.  A used book can&#039;t be multiplied and sold to fifty or sixty people, who can then go on and try to sell THEIR copy to fifty or sixty people.  Ebook files can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> What about the used book store owners themselves? </em>  The UBS owners have been hit really hard with the emergence of ebay and amazon marketplace.  </p>
<p>Most of the brick and mortar UBS that I know have had to develop a website just to stay in business.  I know some of gone out of business.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any issue with UBS, period.  Back when I was 19 and broke, that was the only place I could afford to buy a book.  People who consider them bottomfeeders probably need to take a hard look at reality.</p>
<p>While yes, I&#8217;d love it if all of my readers bought only new, and right on the day of release, it&#8217;s a fact of life that isn&#8217;t going to happen.  People have to prioritize and if that means they are going to buy some of their books used because they have to buy shoes for their kids, I&#8217;m fine with that.  I know what it&#8217;s like to be tight on money.</p>
<p>And UBS store owners have to make a living just like anybody else.  They aren&#8217;t doing anything illegal and like I said before, a UBS can be an author&#8217;s best friend.  That is how a LOT of readers find new faves.  And most readers, when they have a fave, they want the books nice and shiny and new.  People who consider the UBS owners bottomfeeders need to step back and take a long, hard look at reality.</p>
<p>Ebooks are a whole different subject, in my opinion.  An ebook is a file&#8230; one that can be copied, shared, indescrimately, forever.  You don&#8217;t have just ONE copy~you can sell the file and keep your copy.  That&#8217;s piracy and that IS illegal.  I know of one ebayer who kept selling ebooks, <em>the same titles</em> repeatedly, until Ebay finally stepped in.  Before they made her stop, she&#8217;d sold those files enough to have made hundreds of dollars.  No work on her part, and she was stealing.  A used book can&#8217;t be multiplied and sold to fifty or sixty people, who can then go on and try to sell THEIR copy to fifty or sixty people.  Ebook files can.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyl:  Good points regarding ebooks.  1) even if the book is not in ebook format, there is still the piracy risk.  Over at Teleread.org, it was reported that the Harry Potter story was availlabe in illegal ebook format within hours of its release.

2)  Ebooks that cost more than the print version or is the same price is ridiculous.  I hate that.

3) I do think that widespread ebook popularity can create profits where there weren&#039;t any in the past.  I wrote an article a while back called the Long Tail based on Chris Anderson&#039;s theory that the internet and digital downloads can create profits from the misses.

Karen - I believe that some authors view Used bookstore owners as bottom feeders who earn money off some one else&#039;s labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyl:  Good points regarding ebooks.  1) even if the book is not in ebook format, there is still the piracy risk.  Over at Teleread.org, it was reported that the Harry Potter story was availlabe in illegal ebook format within hours of its release.</p>
<p>2)  Ebooks that cost more than the print version or is the same price is ridiculous.  I hate that.</p>
<p>3) I do think that widespread ebook popularity can create profits where there weren&#8217;t any in the past.  I wrote an article a while back called the Long Tail based on Chris Anderson&#8217;s theory that the internet and digital downloads can create profits from the misses.</p>
<p>Karen &#8211; I believe that some authors view Used bookstore owners as bottom feeders who earn money off some one else&#8217;s labor.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the original post does not address this, but at some point, don&#039;t we have to bring e-books into the discussion?  E-books carry some risks of their own.  They can be copied illegally just like music and video files.  But they give authors a chance to bring their OOP backlists back into the marketplace.  I&#039;ve purchased several OOP Regency titles from Belgrave House and Fictionwise.  It costs me less than buying a $.01 + postage copy used off Amazon, I get it instantly, and the author gets a royalty payment.

What does tick me off is seeing new print titles sold as e-books for essentially the same price (although I guess I&#039;m not spending any gas money to buy it).  E-books cost a publisher less to produce and I&#039;d like to see publishers encourage us to buy these with discounts and volume buying promotions.  New and mid-list authors might really benefit, especially as the e-book market grows.

Phyl, who buys it all--new, used, and electronic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the original post does not address this, but at some point, don&#8217;t we have to bring e-books into the discussion?  E-books carry some risks of their own.  They can be copied illegally just like music and video files.  But they give authors a chance to bring their OOP backlists back into the marketplace.  I&#8217;ve purchased several OOP Regency titles from Belgrave House and Fictionwise.  It costs me less than buying a $.01 + postage copy used off Amazon, I get it instantly, and the author gets a royalty payment.</p>
<p>What does tick me off is seeing new print titles sold as e-books for essentially the same price (although I guess I&#8217;m not spending any gas money to buy it).  E-books cost a publisher less to produce and I&#8217;d like to see publishers encourage us to buy these with discounts and volume buying promotions.  New and mid-list authors might really benefit, especially as the e-book market grows.</p>
<p>Phyl, who buys it all&#8211;new, used, and electronic.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the used book store owners themselves?  If readers stop buying as many used books, then surely this impacts them, perhaps even leading to closures?  Or do they not really matter in the great scheme of things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the used book store owners themselves?  If readers stop buying as many used books, then surely this impacts them, perhaps even leading to closures?  Or do they not really matter in the great scheme of things?</p>
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