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2010 RT Wrap Up

I had written an entire blog post about RT 2010 and lost 10 paragraphs because of the [insert your own profanity] WordPress blogging app on the iPad. I think my tongue is bloody from biting it to prevent the rage from spilling forth. Probably, though, it was for the best. I will now be ultra concise (and given the length of the post, that’s a very good thing).

I attended two panels:

  • Vamps with Charlaine Harris, Kerrilyn Sparks, Cathy Clamp and Mario Acevedo
  • Demystifying e Book Contracts with Ethan Ellenburg, Elaine English, Raelene Gorlinksy

Both of these panels were summarized for RT and the full reports can be read at the Romantic Times website sometime in the near future. The highlights of those are as follows:

Vamps

Harris enjoys reading Sparks but isn’t writing that kind of story. There were no hints given regarding the future of the Sookie relationship status but it sounds very tenuous. Don’t look for an HEA from Harris.

Sparks writes about what she finds romantic which means men that are gentleman and treat the heroine with kindness and gentleness. She also tries to write funny stories.

Clamp tries to write about two equals even though she thinks that many readers like a strong heroine but want the hero stronger. She says that the readers who write to her represent a small minority of the overall readership. She realizes that there are many dissatisifed and satisfied readers who will never communicate with her.

Acevedo spent most of the time blushing about the sex talk (which is really mild).

Contracts

Don’t be afraid to negotiate but don’t be an ass about it either was the message from the panelists. Get a publishing attorney, not a general attorney, to review your contract if you have questions. Understand that publishers are writing the contract that best suits their needs and purpose. Definitely use Google and other resources but understand that book contracts are confusing and complex. Don’t kick yourself if you don’t understand it. If you sign with a new epublisher and are concerned about terms, bring those up. New epublishers may not be sophisticated in the contract drafting but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are are trying to cheat you. Conversely, don’t hold your nose and sign when you aren’t sure of what is going on.

I also participated in two panels

  • Save the Contemporary Reader Roundtable
  • EReader Panel

Save the Contemporary
This was a small but fun panel. We had three authors: Julie James, Louisa Edwards, and Victoria Dahl. We really engaged the readers and asked them to share with us what they liked and didn’t like about books. Most of the readers liked small town settings but it the books represent a sanitized version of the small towns. One person wondered whether small towns was code for white, Christian.

Another person shared that a submission of hers was turned down when she wanted to write something much darker with racial implications.

We talked about covers. One reader mentioned she really likes it when the covers include plot elements like the cover of “On the Steamy Side” by Louisa Edwards.

Sarah Wendell, my co moderator, prompted Julie James to tell the story about the dress on the cover of “Something About You.” In the story, the heroine wears a backless fuschia dress exactly as it is depicted on the cover. This is no moment of serendipity. Instead, James had written the character as wearing a sexy black dress but when she received the cover image, she changed the dress of the heroine to match the cover.

It was a great time and I hope that we have more of these in the future. The readers were so engaged. I could have talked for hours with everyone.

eReader Panel

The comment I heard after the panel was that they were more confused than ever about what ereader to buy. It is confusing. We brought Sony, Nook, Kindle, the new Kobo Reader, iPhone, iPad, and netbooks. We brought up 8 things to consider when deciding on what ereader to buy (I’ll post those next Sunday). The easiest device to use was determined to be the Kindle. The cheapest is the new Kobo Reader.

There were things I liked about the Kobo Reader and things I didn’t. The Kobo is lightweight and I loved the quilted matt back finish. For $149, it’s a good eink reader but the software program could definitely make it better. Sarah and I thought the screen resolution was not as good as the Sony Pocket Edition. I was suprised that though the Kobo has bluetooth capabilities, it is only for the purpose of connecting Reader with a blackberry. I couldn’t tether it to the Macbook for over the air syncing of content. Weird.

All Romance Ebooks gave away a Sony Reader Touch and offered up three coupon codes.   For each book listed below you can get a 50% discount.   The codes are case sensitive.

  • What the Librarian Did by Karina Bliss -janeRT2010
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Overall Impressions

RT is a day/night conference. By day, it is mostly a writer’s conference with five or six writer panels for every one reader event. By night, it is a spectacle of fairy wings, vampire teeth, pleather, leather, and latex. There were the not very original coterie of non romance readers there to gawk and draw conclusions about the romance readership as a whole.

There were only 6 Mr. Romance contestants. I heard four didn’t show up and at least three were last minute additions including one who referred to this as another “dance gig.” One of the contestants was a guy who had come to the conference to learn to write romances. Andrew (whose last name I can’t recall at this moment) had written a book on the love lives of philosophers and apparently it was 30 stories of tragicly bad romances. Andrew began reading romances for the positive endings and would like to see his name on the cover, not necessarily his face.

The winner, Jamie, seemed like a sweet boy for whom a cover modeling gig seems perfectly suited to his skill set. Read into that what you will.

Mr. Romance 2009, Charles Paz?, got up on stage and began lamenting the mean girl bloggers of 2009 who posted his picture and made comments about his person suggesting that perhaps he was not their vision of a cover model for romance books. Apparently this affected Charles so adversely that he was unable to get out of bed. Fortunately, the facebook fans were wholly encouraging and gave him a reason to rise in the morning. Charles then broke down and started crying, sobbing almost. In fact, there were more tears shed on stage of Mr. Romance 2010 than at the last Miss America pageant (more cogent answers at the Miss America pageant as well). You mean girl bloggers, ruining everything. (As an aside, no one I talked to even remembered seeing posts about the winner from 2009. All I could remember was that he was short in 2009 and he is still short today).

Everyone agreed that RT has become more subdued and less sexualized. I attribute that to the fact that the Ellora’s Cavemen no longer roam the halls, barechested and eager. EC did hire local strippers for EC party. The rumor is that they are holding back the real cavemen for the fall EC Con.

Probably the best reason to attend RT is for the fellowship of readers. There isn’t anything more fun than talking with others, in person, about your favorite book, is there?

Jane Litte is the founder of Dear Author, a lawyer, and a lover of pencil skirts. She spends her downtime reading romances and writing about them. Her TBR pile is much larger than the one shown in the picture and not as pretty. You can reach Jane by email at jane @ dearauthor dot com

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  3. TKF
    May 02, 2010 @ 10:41:54

    The rumor is that they are holding back the real cavemen for the fall EC Con.

    From what I’ve heard over the years, my only possible response is Thank god for small favors. Maybe I’ll go next year when it’s on the West Coast . . .

  4. Jane
    May 02, 2010 @ 10:55:10

    @TKF I think that Pittsburgh might have been the height of the debauchery but I found it surprisingly tame this year and heard others make the same comment. I wish that there were more reader focused activities. I didn’t bring my brochure home with me, but the upper two slots were the “reader track” and the bottom 10-12 slots were the “writer track”.

    RT has really, really embraced digital publishing and you saw digital publishers and reps on the same panels as print reps and that was pretty neat. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention was that there was quite a bit of diversity among authors at the signing. I got the sense that there were more authors writing for digital publishing who were persons of color than perhaps for the mainstream romance genre.

  5. DS
    May 02, 2010 @ 11:25:08

    Wasn’t 2009 the year that they had to one of the male models out of the hotel for erratic behavior? Maybe being a cover model is more stressful than it appears.

  6. Kim in Hawaii
    May 02, 2010 @ 11:46:25

    Thanks, Jane, for the overview. I’ve been trolling your site for days, starved for info!

    I was unable to attend this year, so I had to recruit local volunteers to assist with the SOS Mixer. SOS is Kathryn Falk’s military charity. Series author and SOS sponsor Julie Miller posted an overview of the SOS Mixer on the RT Blog. I hear that it was an emotional tribute to our military families.

    The SOS volunteers also enjoyed the reader parties, echoing Jane’s assessment that the “best reason to attend RT is for the fellowship of readers.”

    I look forward to meeting Jane at RomCon and RWA!

  7. Sandy James
    May 02, 2010 @ 11:52:25

    SO wish I could have been there! It’s the week before my students take their Advanced Placement exam, and I love them too much to abandon them after all their hard work. I would like to see if any readers even know who the hell I am!

    Too funny about Julie James and changing her story element to fit the cover! Same thing happened with my Murphy’s Law. Cover had a heroine with long hair, but I’d written her with short. Loved Jinger Heaston’s cover design so much, I went back and edited. :)

    Loved living RT vicariously through your tweets, Jane. Especially laughed through the “mangeant.” Thanks for sharing!

    Maybe next year…

  8. TKF
    May 02, 2010 @ 11:58:16

    @Jane:

    The first time I looked at the list of workshops (maybe 2007?) I was really surprised that it looked like a lot of the same workshops I see at RWA. It seems really geared towards aspiring writers rather than readers, which I guess strikes me as odd since it’s billed as a conference for readers.

    I’m curious to see/hear how RomCon plays out as an alternative. I’m hoping it will be more focused on readers than RT seems to be.

  9. RRRJessica
    May 02, 2010 @ 14:18:17

    Thank you for this roundup. The mangeant tweets were hilarious, but it is nice to get these longer reflections.

    Andrew (whose last name I can't recall at this moment) had written a book on the love lives of philosophers and apparently it was 30 stories of tragicly bad romances. Andrew began reading romances for the positive endings and would like to see his name on the cover, not necessarily his face.

    Does anyone know the name of Mr. Romance contestant Andrew’s book about philosophers in love? Or Andrew’s contact info? I am dying to read and review it. Thanks!

  10. Antonio Angeletti
    May 02, 2010 @ 16:09:30

    “including one who referred to this as another “dance gig.”

    “EC did hire local strippers for EC party.

    Wow, I am shocked at how easily you can put a person on almost the same level as dirt. I am appalled that this is the first thing I get to read posted online about the 2010 Mr. Romance competition. I placed in the contest as the 2nd runner up and I can say that I dealt with more bullshit in my 4 days spent competing there than I have dealt with all year. I attended the Ellora’s cave model show to put on a professional show on Wednesday night as an entertainer. We were told to put on a clean professional show, which everyone can agree we did. I’m confused how your glad the ec models weren’t roaming the halls, but your upset that “local strippers” did a professional show (as we we’re told “Ellora’s best yet”) and you can’t wait until they have the bare chested, eager ec models back?

  11. Jennifer Estep
    May 02, 2010 @ 16:26:58

    I agree that this year’s RT seemed much calmer than Pittsburgh, but I still thought it was a lot of fun.

    I went to a panel with Charlaine Harris, Jim Butcher, and some other folks talking about books to movies. Charlaine was a hoot. Very funny lady. I also hit a thriller/suspense panel with Barry Eisler and some other authors, a panel about Twitter, a panel about blogging, and a few more. I also enjoyed the contemporary panel, even though I couldn’t stay for the whole thing.

  12. Antonio Angeletti
    May 02, 2010 @ 16:29:32

    After the show Wednesday, we were told to hang around to take pictures and dance with the crowd. I was professional, courteous, and respectful to everyone that I met. Ask anyone who actually got to meet me and they will tell you the same. In fact, Dorchester was so impressed with my behavior that they asked me if I would be interested in competing in the Mr. Romance competition because they were short on people. I agreed but told them I could not be back until Thursday evening. They agreed and let me enter the competition. Again during the entire competition I was a gentlemen to everyone. When I stated that this was “just another dance” gig. I was responding to a question I was asked during the competition about what my favorite part of the convention was. And I replied “the people” (at least the one’s not writing this blog) saying that when I arrived here I was looking at the convention as “just another dance gig” because I was employed to put on a choreographed dance show, not to participate in the Mr. Romance. What I was saying was when I showed up to perform on Wednesday it was “just another dance” show. But upon entering the Mr. Romance competition I realized the beauty of Romantic Times Convention—-ie—-the privilege of being around so many amazing authors and their awesome fans that travel from all corners of the globe to see them. I never viewed the “Mr. Romance competition” as “just another dance show” as you so poorly quoted me out of context.

  13. Anonymous
    May 02, 2010 @ 17:55:44

    Jane wrote, the “best reason to attend RT is for the fellowship of readers”.

    Sarah at Smart Bitches wrote, “I've said before that two romance readers might not have a single thing in common except the books they read, and that alone gives them hours of conversation.”

    How true these statements are! Some romance fans read erotica, so it is no surprise that they might enjoy a risqué show that Ellora’s Cave is known to host. Some romance fans read paranormal, so they enjoy the trappings of the Faerie Ball and Vampire Ball. Some romance fans across all genres enjoy the Mr. Romance. I don't, but I try not to pass judgment on those who do.

    Antonio, I’m sure you brought pleasure to some romance fans. So enjoy those memories and don’t worry about any criticisms.

  14. Natasha (Wicked Lil Pixie)
    May 02, 2010 @ 18:09:17

    Thanks for the round up Jane. Mr Romance 2009 cried? Eep. He’s really pretty to look at though.

    Antonio, congrats on placing 2nd. But Dear Author is always upfront & in your face. No one knows the context of a story except the person who said it, so you can’t blame the blogger for typing what she heard sans context.

  15. Antonio Angeletti
    May 02, 2010 @ 18:31:52

    I would like to tell my story. The story of what it was like to be a competitor at this year’s Mr. Romance. The drama began on Friday morning when EC found out I had entered the Mr. Romance contest which is sponsored by Dorchester. They were upset because I had been employed by them to pose as cave models. But I am not a cave model, Im just part of a group that was hired to perform a show for one night. This was just the beginning of my drama as I was would find myself facing one of the biggest blasphemy's of my life. I had entered the contest late and I was playing catch up on Friday so I was trying to meet and talk to as many people as I could. I was being a gentlemen and just trying to promote myself and be polite. Friday night I had met an author who invited me up to another quite popular author's room. The author was rude and kept asking that I give her my shirt saying she would “give me 7 votes.” Then some girls in the room kept asking me to take my shirt off. I didn't want to be rude so I obliged. Besides, I didn't think I would be a big deal I had been taking shirtless photos after the ec show Wednesday night. I just posed for a few playful pictures, one where two girls had their hands on my stomach, one where the girls were licking my biceps, and one with my arm around a gay guy (again I didn't want to be rude and act homophobic). I know this may come as vulgar to some of you, but there were plenty of equally playful pictures taken Wednesday night and I didn't think it would be a big deal. Saturday morning I was almost disqualified from the competition. Rumors had spread that I went up to the room and participated in something along the lines of a bisexual stripper orgy. I found out after the competition that someone had been showing everyone these pictures at the morning mixer. I guess one women was so upset when she saw them she left her table crying and complained. Fortunately, Dorchester let me explain my side of the story and were very kind and understanding with the whole ordeal. They said that the “shirtless” pictures violated my contract (which I hadn't signed yet) but they decided that since I had already been photographed “shirtless” posing as an EC model that they would let it slide. After the show I was confronted by EC and found out that the author had been kicked out of their publishing group and was showing the pictures in an attempt to make the EC models look bad, since apparently they didn't live up to their expectations. The author was apparently looking for any opportunity to bash EC. I am very proud that I was able to attend such an awesome event and that I was able to place. I was a little disappointed though because I felt like I probably could have won had I not danced as an EC model and had all this controversy surrounding me. The whole thing just turned out to be a lot more than I signed up for. It turns out DS was right and being a cover model is more stressful than it appears and as for the guy kicked in 2009 maybe we should cut him some slack he could have easily ended up in a situation similar to mine and just didn't come out as lucky. I just feel discouraged because I did my best to be a gentlemen and to be polite to everyone and I worked extremely hard for both publishing companies. It just pisses me off that this is your general consensus of the competition because 'm a real person who is a gentlemen and a valid contestant for the Mr. Romance not a dirty “local stripper” who “just showed up for another dance gig.” Now I understand why Charles acted the way he did because when he thought back on how upset he was when bloggers like you criticized him following last year's competition he ended up in tears just as I ended up in tears after reading yours. So your right I guess there was more tears shed at this year's Mr. Romance than this year's Miss America thanks to folks like you who can't look at anything in life positively.

  16. LesterLevine
    May 02, 2010 @ 18:35:19

    Antonio…buck up and take it like a man. It’s all good.

  17. Ridley
    May 02, 2010 @ 18:44:12

    Check out the tl;dr drama queen posts. Who knew models had such fragile egos?

    Guess life isn’t any easier on the beautiful people after all.

  18. Gwen Hayes
    May 02, 2010 @ 19:36:10

    I am so very confused.

  19. Kimber An
    May 02, 2010 @ 19:39:08

    I never imagined it would mean so much to the cover models, but, now that I think about it, I can. This is an important part of their resume and also professional pride on the line.

    I often complain about cover art, but it has nothing to do with the male models.

    They are totally HOT! And their works brings a lot of, ahem, joy to the lives of others.

    It’s the people who choose what covers go to which books and how those covers are put together that I often disagree with. I’m visually oriented, so I tend to be opinionated about such things.

  20. Mireya
    May 02, 2010 @ 19:43:11

    I think the RT model related dramas are soon going to have a whole convention of their own…

  21. TKF
    May 02, 2010 @ 20:02:17

    Antonio, I’m truly sorry you got sucked into the drama that seems to go hand and hand with RT and Mr. Romance (and the Cavemen).

    I feel like I should apologize for my sex. *sigh* Every year the stories that come out of RT pretty prove to me that women are every bit as capable of treating the opposite sex just as badly as men are, and that many of them are just waiting for their chance to do so.

    That said, do yourself a huge favor and stay off the blogs. You’ll make yourself crazy, and it’s not worth it.

  22. Romance Reader
    May 02, 2010 @ 20:11:26

    Jane, you wrote, “I wish that there were more reader focused activities. “ I first attended RT in Daytona/2006. The reader parties sounded silly in the agenda, so I ventured into the writers' panels to hear best selling authors talk about the craft. As a reader, I learned so much from these panels and won books from the authors! Four years later, I have yet to attend a Readers' Function. But everyone has different expectations and RT offers many ways to satisfy them.

    You also wrote, “Oh, one thing I forgot to mention was that there was quite a bit of diversity among authors at the signing.” Yeah for diversity! This promotes respect for writers based on merit – not how we see them.

    Yet you wrote, “The winner, Jamie, seemed like a sweet boy for whom a cover modeling gig seems perfectly suited to his skill set. Read into that what you will.” How can you judge his skill set from the Mr. Romance contest?

    “Mangenat” is funny as is bingo orgasm, man titties, and sword penises. I'd like to think that we are comfortable with our sexuality that we can have a tongue-in-cheek laugh at the romance heroes who have come to life via cover models. But I don't think it is necessary to degrade the cover models.

    But I will ditto LesterLevin's comment, “Antonio…buck up and take it like a man. It's all good.” I'm sure Antonio will toughen up after a year in the romance world (just as an author learns to be persistent after multiple rejections).

  23. Andrew Shaffer (The Contestant Who Writes Books)
    May 02, 2010 @ 21:45:38

    Why don’t bestselling authors ever invite me to their rooms for bisexual stripper orgies? Not that my wife would let me go, but it’s always nice to be asked. ;)

  24. The Mighty Buzzard
    May 02, 2010 @ 21:54:33

    On behalf of my gender, I’d like to apologize for Antonio. Unfortunately I have no excuse for him. There is pretty much nothing in life bad enough to justify a perfectly good bearer of the Y chromosome turning into a whiny little emo pansy.

    Antonio, please turn your gender membership card in for destruction and your balls in for… nevermind, you obviously lost those long ago.

  25. SonomaLass
    May 02, 2010 @ 22:07:46

    From the #mangeant tweets, I got the impression that Andrew had some class. Nice!

  26. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 00:28:22

    @The Mighty Buzzard: I apologize for the fiery emo-style rant earlier. I think my blood pressure is just now returning back to normal. Sleep deprivation and being around lots of estrogen all week may have caused a few chemical changes in my brain to take place no offense to the ladies. I’m okay now though, I promised my girlfriend I would stop slitting my wrists by the end of the night. As for my manhood I can finally feel my testicles starting to descend again but my penis still hasn’t grown back. It’s a terrible thing really because I was going to let The Mighty Buzzard suck on it.

  27. historical romance
    May 03, 2010 @ 00:48:55

    Is this the same guy that tried to kill his wife in a pumpkin patch?

  28. Mad Mr. Romance
    May 03, 2010 @ 00:52:46

    I apologize for the fiery emo-style rant earlier. I think my blood pressure is just now returning back to normal. Sleep deprivation and being around lots of estrogen all week may have caused a few chemical changes in my brain to take place no offense to the ladies. I’m okay now though, I promised my girlfriend I would stop slitting my wrists by the end of the night. As for my manhood I can finally feel my testicles starting to descend again but my penis still hasn’t grown back. It’s a terrible thing really because I was going to let The Mighty Buzzard suck on it.

    Andrew, next time I get invited to a bisexual stripper orgy I’ll let you and your wife know, just remember no pictures please! I also decided that it’s time for the past and present Mr. Romance contestants to start gossiping about the bloggers who watched our shows. Charles and I have decided that the people watching the show this year were just too tall which is a shame really because next year they still won’t be any shorter. Would you agree? I was going to invite HG’s daughter (amazing girl) to the giant/midget stripper orgy in room 1139 but I was too embarrassed because of my short stature and because apparently I don’t have any balls. I take it you didn’t get the memo for that one either. I thought you would be with your wife when she showed up but she said you were too busy with your own pumpkin patch gun orgy.

    Kimber An, we thank you for the compliments.

    TFK, I will try and stay off of the blogs lol. I just googled “2010 Mr. Romance” and this blog happened to be the first thing that popped up so I figured I had to defend myself and vent out some frustration. But us guys get a bad rep and I know it’s deserved a lot of times but sometimes not. I am always a complete gentlemen when I perform at shows no matter what happens but often times I do get treated like a piece of meat. A few weeks ago I had just got done with a show and a girl ran up on stage and dumped a whole pitcher of beer on my head and it took everything in my power not to get mad. But thanks for the support! Hopefully, I can come back next year older and wiser and compete in Los Angeles!

  29. Mad Mr. Romance
    May 03, 2010 @ 01:11:56

  30. Mad Mr Romance
    May 03, 2010 @ 02:03:36

  31. Sandy James
    May 03, 2010 @ 04:17:38

    I want to look away, but I can’t… Simply too fascinating to watch this whole thing unfold.

  32. Anonymous
    May 03, 2010 @ 05:05:06

    TKF said:

    Every year the stories that come out of RT pretty prove to me that women are every bit as capable of treating the opposite sex just as badly as men are, and that many of them are just waiting for their chance to do so.

    This is the reason I don’t go to RT. The objectification of the models makes me feel very, very uncomfortable.

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  34. Andrew Shaffer (The Contestant Who Writes Books)
    May 03, 2010 @ 06:16:22

    Normally I adhere to the motto, “What happens in the pumpkin patch stays in the pumpkin patch.” But, to clear up the rumors that I shot my wife in a pumpkin patch, here’s the story…

    On October 31, 2008, I took my girlfriend of four years to a pumpkin patch to propose to her at twilight. I marched her to a secluded area out of view of others in the patch (the patch, one of the largest in the midwest, covered several acres), which made her suspicious of my intentions since we passed many excellent pumpkins and time was winding down to select one while there was still daylight.

    I had carved a small pumpkin earlier, lined the inside with velvet, and set a diamond engagement ring in it. I had concealed the pumpkin in my jacket pocket and was holding it to keep the lid on. I kept gently nudging my wife deeper into the patch, unaware that I was prodding her with my hand buried in my jacket pocket. The pumpkins became more and more scarce.

    When we were finally alone and out of view of the other customers in the patch, I told my girlfriend to stop and turn around. My heart was racing and I was sweating profusely. She took one look at me and said, “What’s in your pocket? Is that a gun? Oh my God — are you going to kill me?”

    I said “no” and got down on one knee… She’s my wife now, so you can figure out the rest of the story.

  35. Sherry Thomas
    May 03, 2010 @ 07:02:00

    @Andrew Shaffer (The Contestant Who Writes Books):

    Very cool story, Andrew. (I’ve been referring to you as Cowboy Philosopher, btw, b/c of your cowboy outfit in the second round of the competition.)

    And I sat three seats down from the woman who screamed “Marry me!” when she heard about your book on the philosophers’ bad romances. :-)

  36. Gwendolyn Lee (Andrew's unscathed now-wife)
    May 03, 2010 @ 07:15:58

    For the record, I didn’t think you would ACTUALLY kill me. Perhaps wear a severed digit on a necklace.

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  38. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 09:24:27

    For the record, we do not moderate comments. The spam filter may pick them up and mark a comment as spam and we have to go fish them out. I would certainly never want to moderate such comments left by Mr. Romance contestants. I had no idea that there was a scandalous suggestion of bisexual orgies taking place. I confess that I must have spent too much time in my room or eating ice cream at North Market and missed all those stories. Next year, I’m not leaving the conference hotel.

  39. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:23:46

    Where do I… Begin? *evil grin*

    1st off, I dont think I said it was an EVIL GIRL blogger who picked up the story. It was just a major blogger in general. I told my story because i fell it can relate to the Authors as well who, on a daily basis, get thier work bashed by the online people who take these chances to make people feel bad while making them feel like they are in a position of power. By the way, You EVIL GIRL BLOOGERS ARE MEAN =-P

    2nd, there was much more to the story that I didnt mention. Not only the fact of the BLOG and all its harshness, but immediatly following that, my ‘AGENTS’ dropped me and in a nutshell, My 15 minutes were up even before they downloaded the pics from the covershoot so to say. I was on top of the world with the new respect of the fans and all this going for me and then in an instant, that high was takin from me. It did do some damage, but that which does not kill us makes us stronger right?

    3rd, I wasnt BAWLING or SOBBING. I was just alergic to the dust and was cutting onions before walking on stage. Hahaha. Honestly, i did get misty eyed, but that was as I took my final walk and the AWESOME AND AMAZING people all gave me a standing ovation. It reminded me that I have the love and support of the fans and readers and that I am BULLET PROOF from the haters.

    4th, I really cant say much for the actual contestants or anything that went on with them behind the scenes. I wasnt a competitor, so I was allowed to do what I wanted. Now, I could have walked around Columbus, enjoy the sights or even stay in my hotel room the entire time. BUT, I made it a point to walk the halls and meet the readers and fans. Stopping every two steps and taking pictures, sigining autographs or even just seeing how their day was and if they were having a good time. I did as many workshops as I could as well. This week is about the people who attend and making sure they have a great time. Some save up all year just to attend this Evevnt and I wanted to do my best to make it worth it to them.

    5th,If anybody would like to, you may add me on facebook. ‘Mr.Romance Charles Paz’ is the name. Enter my world, get to know me a lil better and when you add, just mention you saw this =-)

    Oh, One last thing… I crowned ANDREW as THE PEOPLES CHAMP!!! He was Awesome at the show and is a great guy. Ask Anybody who was at the Award show for the Comp and you will know why.

    Hope I dont get blogged about this. *dies Laughing* Everyone have a wonderfull week =-)

  40. Ridley
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:26:39

    /popcorn

  41. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:30:14

    *Brings Pizza and BEER instead of popcorn*

  42. Lexie
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:31:48

    I’ve always wanted to attend RT. Its one of those things that because its part of my fandom I want to attend it at least once (along with SDCC and AX). I’m not surprised there was drama from the male contingent, a few years back at an anime con there was a “host” club–pretty men all prettified that you pay for the privelge of having a drink and snack with–and one of the participants wasn’t very popular.

    He was cute, but he didn’t act in a desirable way so the girls kept away from him, preferring the ‘hosts’ that were amiable, charming and flattering. He took exception to this, posted on his blog about it and it started a pretty scandalous flame war for several weeks following. It also had the unfortunate side effect of canceling all future ‘host’ clubs at the con :(

  43. Kindle Vixen
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:38:39

    This thread is worthless without pictures.

  44. Lexie
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:39:03

    As far as Mr. Romance goes, well at least 75% of the cover models of the industry don’t appeal to me and I’m just as happy without putting a face to the character. Don’t get me wrong, there are definitely some cover models who I sigh over, but by in large I’m indifferent. Looks have always come second to voice and humor for me, and that’s hard to gauge on a cover.

    Personally I’d kill for some more asian cover models…but with so few asian male leads that’s bloody hard to come by. Thank god for imports and being able to read Japanese and Korean…

  45. Laura
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:42:43

    Nothing sez romance like men with bunched up panties.

  46. Shiloh Walker
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:53:48

    @Andrew Shaffer (The Contestant Who Writes Books): Oh, wow…. now that’s a cool story. :)

    Veering away from the punkin patch, once more, here I sit, scratching my head over the mean girl blogger thing.

    Bottom line-if you don’t like a blogger’s style… stay away from that blog. It’s that easy.

    And now I’m gonna to go write some books. I wonder if I can get a pumpkin patch into a story at some point…

  47. Anion
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:54:17

    My goodness!

    I didn’t go to the mangeant or really have any interaction with the cover models at all, save having a cigarette with one outside late one evening. (I was hanging with the awesome undertakers and my other pals.)

    But I have to say, all humor and man-weeping silliness aside, it always bothers me the way the cover models are treated like meat, and I find it really awful to think what Antonio must have felt when what he thought were very innocent pictures taken when he was just trying to be a good sport were used against him in that manner.

    Antonio, I agree you should step back and stay off the blogs. It will only make things worse. But it’s wrong that you were treated badly, just as wrong as it would be had you been a woman treated that way because she was hoping to further a modeling or dancing career by participating in a pageant.

    Hearing about shit like this really bothers me. And I’m still very tired and trying to recover, which makes me a little sensitive myself. Sigh.

    Oh, and I totally want to read the philosopher romance.

  48. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 11:59:38

    Yes. Step away from the Blogs Bro. Or else you might be ‘SOBBING’ on stage next year. Hahaha =-P

  49. Chris
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:03:25

    Back to cover for Something About You by Julie James… Does this cover look familiar? (Well, minus the dress being fuschia and plus a… cat medallion necklace on the guy.)

  50. Julie K.
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:24:44

    I was at RT and actually took the time to talk to the guys and get to know them a little rather than just looking at them like pieces of meat. Considering the insane schedules they had to keep (while smiling at every turn and posing for pictures while being groped by drunk women), I think they did a fabulous job. Most of the guys were really sweet and total gentlemen the entire week. It bothers me to no end to see them being publicly bashed.

  51. Gwendolyn Lee (Andrew's unscathed now-wife)
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:26:25

    Suggestion for next year’s mangeant: Mr. Bromance. Will be rated on:

    1. Amount and quality of chest-bumps with other contestants
    2. Number, quality and type of hugs (pat on back, full, awkwardly sexual, etc.)
    3. Most ostentatious advocate of other contestants
    4. Amount and sincerity of tears shed

  52. KristieJ
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:34:39

    To Antonio Angeletti re this line: “I guess one women was so upset when she saw them she left her table crying and complained.”

    This may(or may not) have been me – but if it was me you heard about, the story got all twisted. There was a woman at the table who was telling the story of how she and some friends lured one of the cover models up to their room and took pictures of him against his will and she was laughing. I’ll admit I didn’t hear the whole story, didn’t know which contestant she was referring to, nor did I see the pictures she was showing. But I was horrified at what she was saying – that they were holding someone against their will, treating him in a very unseemly manner. She also said they had him tied up and he was almost in tears.

    When I said I was horrified at what they did, she replied she didn’t take part in it – she only took the pictures, to which I replied she was just as bad as the others who did this.

    Then I said if a group of men did this to a woman, they would and should be arrested and charged with sexual assault. It was at this point I stood up in disgust at what fellow members of my sex could do, and think it perfectly acceptable and then said I couldn’t stay at that table where she was sitting and left.
    If it was me, I wasn’t crying, I was disgusted, at her and her friends if what she was saying they did was true.

    Nor did I complain to TPTB at the conference. I told a couple of friends what I heard and witnessed and how disgusted I was at the perpetrators, NOT at the Cover Model contestants, whom, from what I observed, though I didn’t get involved in that aspect of the conference at all, handled themselves in a very professional manner.

    It was the only negative, though a large one to me, in an otherwise wonderful time.

  53. Chicklet
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:39:17

    EC did hire local strippers for EC party. The rumor is that they are holding back the real cavemen for the fall EC Con.

    Reason #1 I will never ever attend RT. Can’t we discuss romance novels without acting like a bunch of skeezoids at a bachelor party?

  54. PJ
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:40:53

    I attended RT for the first time this year and was lucky enough to have the opportunity to chat with the guys and get to know them. They each had a story as to why they were part of the competition and had goals for the future. They were sweet, with generous personalities, and in good humor despite the very busy schedule set for them. Three hours of sleep or less every night is tough. Through it all, they were gentlemen.
    The Mr Romance competition is a huge opportunity for them to break out as models/actors. It adds some spice to an already good reader/writer/industry con. I don’t think it odd at all that any of them would get misty eyed – they’re human and winning the chance to break into their chosen career is huge.
    It really bothers me to see the event and the contestants surrounded by this kind of bashing.

  55. Anion
    May 03, 2010 @ 12:49:14

    @KristieJ:

    WOW. Good for you. I probably would have complained to TPTB, but good for you for letting them know how completely gross and unacceptable such behavior was.

    I really, really hope I’ve never spent money on any of their books.

  56. Shiloh Walker
    May 03, 2010 @ 13:14:06

    One thing that occurs to me is that maybe something needs to done to address the idea of limits at these sort of functions, and not just for the models, but for the attendees, as well.

    Overall, I think most of the models behaved far and away better than they had at the one RT I’d attended previously.

    In 2008, RT Pittsburgh, one of the cover models decided he had a right to stroke his hand down my back-and this was a little too intimate for a stranger to be touching anybody. It happened as I was walking out of the parties, and I can pretty much guarantee that I did nothing to give the idea that I’d invited this–he was also very lucky I didn’t ram his teeth down his throat. I like my personal space-a lot.

    Then, in Columbus, one of the contestants, while I was waiting in line for the Mad Hatter’s Party late Wednesday night, one of the models was walking up and down the line and decided he’d turn around and bend over, let one of the women in line swat him on the butt.

    Yes, I know the name, and no, I’m not posting it, but it was seen by several others and we all commented on it.

    Now, nobody deserves to treated like meat.

    But that’s also some very confusing signals there-very, very confusing.

    If you want to treated as a person, respected as person, then you demand that-and it’s hard to do that when you’re allowing strange woman to swat your tail in full view of hundreds of other strange women.

    The cover models are not there to treated as toys, not by any means. They aren’t there to be treated sex objects. But if a guy is walking around and presenting his butt for women to stroke, swat and pat…well, again. Confusing signals.

  57. Anonymous
    May 03, 2010 @ 13:24:49

    @Chicklet: Oh, but Chicklet, nothing says legitimacy and professionalism like hiring strippers!
    (eyeroll)

    I invite everyone to mentally switch the genders on Antonio’s scenario. While attending a predominantly male-attended event, young, hot Antonia is invited up to a guest’s hotel room, where she is ‘playfully’ asked to remove an item of clothing. Once she does, numerous photos are taken.

    Is your blood boiling? If not, WHY NOT? Why is there any tolerance at all for this kind of crap? ETA: Is this a conference or a Chippendales show? At the very least, there are some seriously mixed messages coming here, and I urge RT to consider the type of message it intends to send with its events.

  58. Romance Reader
    May 03, 2010 @ 14:02:29

    I withdraw an earlier comment to Antonio to “Buck Up”. His second comment had not appeared yet on this website and I thought his first comment was addressing the criticism when in fact he was addressing an incident in a hotel room.

    Indeed, such behavior is inappropriate. Sadly, people loose common sense when alcohol comes into to play. Or perhaps the women were under the impressions, “What happens in Columbus stays in Columbus.”

    This whole episode reminds me of Tailhook. Ultimately, it shook up the Navy and women have made some progress in the work place. Romance readers should keep that in mind as they ogle the male models – look but don't touch. I would prefer we not slide backwards.

    I commend Kristie J for speaking out as the women laughed about it, especially to the one who was only holding the camera.

    I agree that we should all consider limits at such events, but it would be difficult to enforce. I don’t believe that the RT staff encourages such behavior. They are too busy preparing for the next event.

    RT offers alternatives to this behavior and can still be enjoyed by those readers and authors who prefer to meet and greet.

  59. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 14:03:13

    *Rasies hand as probably the guy who we are talking about with the BUTT GROPES and ASS SMACKS* Hahaha. So let me explain that.

    Last year, I learned that there are some people who have ‘personal space’ and sometimes dont even want to be talked to. Cool and fine. Whenever I would approach someone, last year and this one included, I always went in respectable and with the caution that they might or might not want to be bothered.

    If you ever saw anyone ‘BUTT GROPE’ or ‘SMACK’ me, more than likely I KNEW WHO THEY WERE. I either met them in ORLANDO last year, friended them on FACEBOOK and made a connection, Or even met them and became friends at the convention. I wouldnt walk up to a total stranger and say ‘Check out this sweet Ass’ and let them feel the goods. Hahaha, well, not at the RT CONVENTION at least =-P

    I would hate for my actions to cause controversey, and most importantly, give the RT CONVENTION a ‘BLACK EYE’. Its a Great event that brings together so many people in the industry, let alone, give the people a chance to get away and be somewhere with people that have a common intrest in something they all love.

    If I did anything that made people feel uncomfy or uneasy, then i sincerly apologize for my actions. Please dont judge the spirit of the event by the actions of a few people. It is an Amazing event and I would hate for people to be afraid to attend because of these rumors of ‘ROMANTIC CRIMES’ at ‘ROMANTIC TIMES’

    p.s. sorry if my words are mis-spelled. I have an RT HANGOVER. Lol

  60. Robin
    May 03, 2010 @ 14:05:35

    @Shiloh Walker: I’ve made no secret of disliking the oversexualization of RT (do I need to give the obligatory disclaimer here that I’m NOT anti-sex? God, I hope not). IMO there’s a somewhat deliberately cultivated aura of ‘the crazier the better’ around RT, as well as some deliberate blurring among the EC cavemen, various cover models, exotic dancers/strippers, and Mr. Romance contestants, with all these guys perceived (and perhaps presented?) as toys to be played with (and to play around themselves) and bad behavior going both ways.

    IMO none of that has anything to do with a shared love of genre Romance, although I’m not suggesting that the Mr. Romance contest or other male-centric events should be banished from the conference. But yeah, I agree with you that the signals going both ways are mixed, especially when you add in plenty of alcohol. Is there a reasonable balance? I don’t know, although I hear this year was tamer than previous years, so maybe the culture *is* changing a bit. Although if the change was facilitated in part by having fewer EC cavemen on hand, maybe that is an indication of how things would have to change for the line-crossing to be more overtly discouraged and diminished.

  61. Shiloh Walker
    May 03, 2010 @ 14:32:17

    @MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ:

    No, it wasn’t you and I’m not going to go thru each of the names, either, until everybody figures out who it was.

    Regardless of the situation-whether the person was known or not-in a scenario like that, I’m sorry, but it wasn’t appropriate and it has nothing to do with my level of comfort.

    There needs to be limits. Whether the people know each other, whether the people involved are comfortable with it, because everybody around you can’t possibly know the stories, can’t possibly be expected to know those stories.

    It’s mixed signals and IMO, it’s not appropriate for the venue, especially considering some of the sad and disturbing stories we have heard/seen. That sort of thing makes it that much easier for everybody else around to oversexualize and objectify the cover models.

    Until clear, definitive rules are established, and adhered to, by all, we’ll continue to see that disturbing behavior.

    @Robin:

    Robin, nope. I don’t think there is a balance and I don’t think there will be one until something is done to make sure there ARE limits, and that those limits are expected to be respected.

    I’d also like to point out, if I’d been the one who’d seen the pictures about the cover model who’d been coaxed up to a room? Oh, yes I would have said something… and I would have taken the pictures, too, and turned them in when I spoke to somebody.

    ETA: (to be clear, I’m not saying anybody else should have handled it the same way I probably would-we all handled things differently. Just speaking up against it is awesome)

    Those women who did that? If the story is as it’s reported, they ought to be utterly ashamed of themselves. It’s sickening, and it’s sad.

  62. Karen Scott
    May 03, 2010 @ 14:47:43

    Then some girls in the room kept asking me to take my shirt off. I didn't want to be rude so I obliged.

    Oh the hardship. Let me wipe your fevered brow dearie.

  63. CEAD
    May 03, 2010 @ 15:17:28

    I second Romance Reader in commending Kristie J, and agree wholeheartedly with Anonymous. I’m also with Kimber An: the failure of covers to reflect actual content is frustrating, but many covers do feature some seriously gorgeous men, and I can’t complain about that. (I think I’ve started mentally divorcing the cover from the book; I tend to appreciate covers more that way.)

    Antonio, I’m horrified that this happened to you. No one deserves to be treated that way, and it’s especially appalling in situations when someone’s career is on the line. Best of luck at RT next year, and in the future.

  64. jack
    May 03, 2010 @ 15:58:36

    The author who did this to Antonia is Lora Leigh. And @ Karen Scott, you are one sick individual.

  65. KristieJ
    May 03, 2010 @ 16:02:46

    @ Karen – you know I love you – I really do – but I take exception to your snarky comment on this topic.
    Suppose the roles had been reversed – suppose that a group of men lured a woman up to their room and insisted she take her clothes off. Would your reaction be the same? Or would you call it like it really is – a case of sexual harassment.
    Is it somehow different if this is done to a guy than if it’s done to a woman?
    My answer is an unequivocal no!! It’s the same for whoever is being unduly pressured. And I’m angered at this double standard that seems to exist.

  66. Karen Scott
    May 03, 2010 @ 16:30:51

    @jack:

    And @ Karen Scott, you are one sick individual.

    And you’re an arsehole, but we all have our crosses to bear don’t we?

    @KristieJ

    suppose that a group of men lured a woman up to their room and insisted she take her clothes off. Would your reaction be the same?

    @KristieJ If the ladies indeed lured him up to their rooms and tied him down and took pics of him against his will, then that’s not right, and it is indeed sexual harassment, but I have to say, I’m not really getting why he felt obliged to take his shirt off? If it had been a woman in a similar position and she’d freely taken her shirt off at the request of a bunch of men, I’d ask the same question. Did he feel that his general well-being was in danger at that moment? Is that why he “felt obliged” to take his shirt off?

    Also, @Jack, was it really Lora Leigh who lured Anthonio up to her room and tied him up? If so, perhaps she should be suitably punished or at the very least sexual harassment charges should be brought against her and those other women. If this is as serious as Anthonio suggests, then why hasn’t somebody reported the perps?

    If this had happened to a woman, I’d expect the incident to be reported. Outrage on here is all very well, but surely Lora Leigh and her gang should be reported to the authorities?

    Answers anybody?

  67. Elysa Hendricks
    May 03, 2010 @ 16:40:12

    I can’t believe I missed all this drama at RT. Guess I really am a Granny and clueless to boot. Still, I had a great time.

    I found all the contestants to be perfect gentlemen. I’d be happy to claim anyone of them as a son.

    Elysa

  68. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 16:50:44

    Sorry for all the posts, initially, I was moderated from posting on this blog but it looks like they decided to unmoderate me lol. I was trying to post my response under a different name and that didn’t work so I just posted a link to my blog.

    Kristie J, Yes it does look like the story got all twisted. But when you explain why you did it, it makes sense. To get the record straight I wasn’t lured up to the room. An author who had no fowl intentions politely invited me up. Let’s just say the girls/guy up in the room wanted me to take my shirt off and came up with the creative photo ideas. I didn’t offer much resistance but I did tell them that I didn’t know what the rules were and I asked them not to show anyone the pics until after the show. Only 4 or 5 photos were taken and they were all posed and it represented maybe a 3 minute period in time where I had my shirt off. But according to your story and the rumors I heard it seems like one of the girls taking pictures (Im not sure who it was) decided to come up with this story about luring me upstairs where I supposedly performed various sexual acts on women and a man. And as you said the girl claims she wasn’t participating in the acts just taking pictures. I will say it again, the pictures were posed. They in no way represented a “sex orgy” where I was forced against my own will to do anything. I simply wanted to be polite and I offered to pose for a few pics “shirtless” it’s not like all of you didn’t already see us shirtless during the show. But the scandalous story was supposedly a way for the unsaid author (who somebody else said for me) whose room I was in to get back at EC for supposedly booting her from their publishing company.

    Charles, wasn’t trying to make fun of you or anything just trying to stick up for you. I didn’t appreciate the author of this blog’s short comments about you. You are the same height as me and my sarcastic comments to Andrew are basically saying we act like complete gentleman and we would never say anything downgrading to any of the audience but they are quick to jump on us last year they said you needed to lose weight (and you did and you looked great) so now this year they start in with the short comments it’s like they pick on you for something you can change and you do so they find something you can’t change to pick on. But best of respect to you, I think you did the right thing standing up for yourself in front of everyone.

    Karen I’d let you wipe my fevered brow but I’m worried Shiloh might take it the wrong way. I’m just as guilty as putting a girls hand on my ass as everyone else. I would never do it to anyone who was uncomfortable with it and I don’t do it to offend other people. To me it’s just a flirtatious way or joking around with someone I’ve met before not a vulgar simulated sexual act.

  69. Elysa Hendricks
    May 03, 2010 @ 16:53:39

    Gwendolyn,
    You are a very fortunate woman to have snagged such a sweet, romantic man. I found Andrew to be adorable and a perfect gentleman.
    Granny Elysa

  70. Karen Scott
    May 03, 2010 @ 17:09:22

    @Antonio Angeletti:

    But according to your story and the rumors I heard it seems like one of the girls taking pictures (Im not sure who it was) decided to come up with this story about luring me upstairs where I supposedly performed various sexual acts on women and a man. And as you said the girl claims she wasn’t participating in the acts just taking pictures. I will say it again, the pictures were posed.

    So just so we’re all clear here, are you saying that you weren’t actually subjected to any sexual harassment by Lora Leigh or any of the other women at RT?

  71. kate r
    May 03, 2010 @ 17:34:47

    Paaarty 101 sort of lesson here.

    This is Just a Guess because
    I’ve never been to RT but I’ve been a bartender plus I’ve gone places where alcohol and men and women got together.

    Trying to sort it all out the next day and look at it with the cold eye of sobriety doesn’t usually work.

    What seemed easy and fun looks messy and sordid. That “what happens in [fill in blank] stays in [fill in blank]” is probably the best answer unless someone is hurt. Then ok, absolutely file charges, take names etc. Drag it into the light.

    Otherwise. Don’t beat yourself up or point fingers or try to understand WTF happened. Because the darkened rooms’ rules don’t make sense once the lights go up. And if you really hate it or yourself, maybe don’t go party next time.

    And if you weren’t there? Chances are you won’t get it.

  72. Lynne Connolly
    May 03, 2010 @ 17:56:09

    I’m still in Columbus (my flight leaves Tuesday). Very quiet, very EMPTY town.
    I guess my RT was different, because I missed all that. I didn’t attend Mr. Romance, which was all of an hour, or was it two? I grabbed some shut-eye in my room. But it’s pretty harmless, and from what I heard the lads didn’t even do any shirtless poses.
    I’m an EC writer, so I was escorted across the stage by a Caveman. He was charming, and appropriately behaved. This year they seemed to know what we felt comfortable with and behave appropriately. So presumably, the ones who preferred it raunchier would get it that way. I wouldn’t know.
    My RT consisted of panels, being on them and attending others, teaching at the precon and going to the parties, as well as two big signings and losing my voice today. RT is what you make it.
    For me, the big scandal was NO FREE INTERNET. I try to email or IM my hubby and kids back in Blighty every day, but I wasn’t about to pay $9.95 a day to do it. I found a free feed one day, and today I’m in a different hotel, which has free Internet, at least in the lobby.
    It burns me that we pay so much for the rooms, and then don’t get a service that, let’s face it, isn’t going to cost them. Money for old rope.
    I’ve stayed in six (yes, I know), six hotels this trip, and the only ones that don’t provide free Internet in your room are the 4 stars. Cheapskates.
    I feel better now. If very very tired and a bit hoarse.
    And to the people who wanted stuff from me, I’m writing as fast as I can!

  73. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:04:48

    Karen, No if you will go back and read things from the beginning you should understand. My problem is that I was almost dismissed from the contest 2 hours before it began because some people thought it would be funny to pass around their camera or phone or whatever the pics were on and claim that I had been involved in a sex orgy. I got pulled behind stage during the book fair and I was asked if i was having sex with the authors and stripping for them. The humiliation didn’t come from anything that went on in the hotel room it comes from knowing I was sitting in the morning mixer while people were laughing at my photos that were being shown to everyone who all decided to interpret their own versions of the story and spread their own rumors. The humiliation also comes from realizing the photographs I took to be polite were used as part of an attempt to sabotage EC and the reputation of their guys all because of a disgruntled author. I guess we had a meeting for the Mr. R. on Thursday where we were warned to stay away from this particular author. Problem was as a last minute contestant I was not here until late Thursday and I had no idea of the meeting or what it entailed. I also had not idea what the Mr. R rules were I did not receive a copy of their contract to sign until about 5 minutes before I went on stage. How would you feel if you tried your hardest to compete at something and you found out after the show that pictures and rumors of you dropped everywhere the day of the contest because you were used as a pawn between an angry author and a publishing company with a bad reputation surrounding their models (which I am not I was hired on Wednesday to dance at the EC party) I am not an EC model and I should not have been treated poorly by someone who had a beef with EC to make EC look bad. So just so I’m clear here I was not subjected to any sexual harassment by Lora Leigh or anyone else in the hotel room. Nor have I ever claimed that I was. However, I was subjected to a situation that no one deserves to be put in. I didn’t do anything but treat with respect the authors, EC, and Dorchester but I got fed to the wolves. I took 80 shirtless pics Wednesday night but I take only 4 or 5 after that and I get blackmailed and almost dismissed from the competition. That’s what I was upset about not being sexually harassed.

  74. katiebabs
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:07:55

    I have never been to RT, so could someone explain to me what is the point of the Mr. Romance Pageant? Each year I hear shocking things that occur during the pageant and after.

    It seems to me that perhaps RT would be better without it and have the cover models do a panel on why they are models, their background, the world they work in and take questions from the audience Sounds more professional all around.

  75. Shiloh Walker
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:09:48

    @Antonio Angeletti:

    Okay, help me out, because I’m a little confused.

    First you say…

    Friday night I had met an author who invited me up to another quite popular author's room. The author was rude and kept asking that I give her my shirt saying she would “give me 7 votes.” Then some girls in the room kept asking me to take my shirt off. I didn't want to be rude so I obliged.

    Now granted, I’m not entirely sure what planet where it’s considered “polite” to remove garments, and maybe that’s where I’m getting confused. I’m not going to get talked out of my clothes, unless I really want to REMOVE my clothes and I don’t give a damn if I seem rude about that or not. I don’t care if I’ve got ten thousand readers watching me and that’s going to make or break my career-they are my clothes, it’s my body, I make that decision, and I’ll be damned if I’ll get pressured into it.

    But I’m rambling, so moving on.

    Then we get a recounting where it seems like one of the models, you (I’m assuming) was lured to a room, tied up, and quite a few of us are very much bothered by this.

    Then, after quite a few cry foul, you come in under another name and state:

    AThe author who did this to Antonia is Lora Leigh. And @ Karen Scott, you are one sick individual.

    THEN, you state,

    An author who had no fowl intentions politely invited me up. Let's just say the girls/guy up in the room wanted me to take my shirt off and came up with the creative photo ideas. I didn't offer much resistance but I did tell them that I didn't know what the rules were and I asked them not to show anyone the pics until after the show. Only 4 or 5 photos were taken and they were all posed and it represented maybe a 3 minute period in time where I had my shirt off.

    Help me out. Which one is it?

    Now it’s no secret that Lora Leigh is a friend of mine so yes, I’m a little bothered that you decided throw her name into the mix after the fact, and under a false name, although, kudos to you for having the balls to speak up in the next post.

    Whatever happened in the room, if it was agreed upon, a posed deal, fine, I don’t really care, but perhaps you should have considered whether it was wise to do it…seeing as how you didn’t know the rules.

    Karen I'd let you wipe my fevered brow but I'm worried Shiloh might take it the wrong way.

    Puh-leeze, I’m sorry, but a guy goes strutting around and presents his ass to a bunch of women, it’s going to be pretty easy to see why somebody (or bodies) might ‘take that the wrong way).

    I’m not easily offended, slick. However, if it makes you feel better to tell yourself, you go right ahead and if you really want Karen to wipe your fevered brow-you go right on and ask her.

    I enjoy her brand of entertainment. Really.

    I'm just as guilty as putting a girls hand on my ass as everyone else. I would never do it to anyone who was uncomfortable with it and I don't do it to offend other people.

    So, seeing as how some jackass did just about that same thing to me two years ago, and I can assure you, he did NOT ask if I was comfortable with it… how do you KNOW you haven’t done it to somebody who wasn’t comfortable? Were you good enough friends with each and every single woman? Did you ask them?

    Sorry. You were there in a professional capacity, whether you realize that or not. Slapping somebody on the butt doesn’t really qualify, IMO.

  76. Shelli Stevens
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:18:01

    @PJ:

    Pretty much what you said exactly. My first time too. Not as shocking as I’d expected (besides a breast grabbing moment on stage). Overall EC night and Mr. Romance were fairly tame to what I’d heard in the past. I had a lot of fun!

    And I was one of the gals who spoke with Antonio and really found him genuine, educated, and an overall nice guy. I was not the one who brought him to my room though :P

    It’s easy to sit here and trash people online, because they don’t seem ‘real’, and there’s a safety from doing it. But these are real people with real emotions, and I wish people would take that more into account.

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  78. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:33:37

    Let’s get a few things straight here it’s very funny you assume came in under the name Jack and busted out the author. I did come in as Mad Mr. Romance but I had not part in what Jack said.

    Jack, If your out there buddy reveal yourself lol.

    Shiloh, you are acting like it is a mortal sin that I removed my clothes and that I should never do anything like that. Let’s keep in mind I was one of the polite EC cave “local strippers” who escorted you and the rest of the EC authors across the stage. You guys didn’t seem too concerned when I had my shirt off then. Also the long enduring photo shoot that captured several pictures of me shirtless with girls hands all over my butt and chest. So if this was going to offend all of you so badly then I really shouldn’t have been invited to compete in the Mr. R. But most people seemed to think I acted the way I was expected to act. I was told to tone it down a little bit for the competition. So how come nobody thought it appropriate to use some of those pictures to blackmail me. Instead all of the sudden they take four in a hotel room spread some rumors and its a big deal. I can’t imagine what horrible things you must write about me in your books. I must be a terrible dirty stripper one of the lowest forms of life right above a protozoa. I travel all over the midwest performing in male revues and I always treat women with complete respect. I understand that you would never attend such a thing because it is obviously very intimidating for you but that doesn’t automatically make me a gross pathetic excuse for a man who doesn’t deserve a women’s respect. What are you saying that because Im a stripper I deserve to get blackmailed. That I don’t deserve the same rights as everybody else. That I don’t deserve a voice or a fair right to competition. Maybe your just jealous that I actually have a brain and I can stick up for myself instead of letting people like you write me of as a degenerate.

  79. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:35:41

    @Shelli Stevens: I don’t know how anyone can tell what is going on at this point but it seems clear that someone is trying to smear Lora Leigh’s name which is probably the most tragic thing of all. (and by someone I don’t mean Kristie J as she is obviously a victim of someone’s poor excuse for a joke).

  80. Bonnie
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:37:05

    LOL!! This thread has been a riot. Thanks folks.

  81. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:40:43

    Shelli,thanks for the support you were a sweet heart. Finally, someone got on this board who isn’t too shallow to realize that I’m another human being with feelings and emotions just like everyone else. It just sucks because people don’t realize how hard I worked and what kind of person I am and they are quick to stereotype me as just another ludicrous EC model.

  82. PJ
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:40:46

    @katiebabs: To the best of my knowledge, the contest is an opportunity for aspiring male models/actors to win a chance to be on the cover of a romance novel. It’s a chance to break out in their desired career/industry with a solid credential to their resume. There’s a small cash prize as well. It really is their chance to get out there and jump start their modeling career.

    The show was done with some saucy sexual overtones, but heck, most of the people there were readers/authors/industry people for Romance and Erotica. C’mon. The temp in the show was more sweet to hot than erotica. The way people make it sound, all this took over the whole convention – and really, it didn’t. There was flirty fun all around and perhaps the problem is that everyone’s perception of flirty differs just as much as everyone’s preference for temp in their romance stories.

    The boys were helping out all around the convention, making appearances at panels and posing for pictures for charity events. They were even hoisting boxes and helping RT staff with organizational issues. In fact, I was giving my pitch (an important oppty for me) when building staff started breaking down tables and making so much noise that none of the agents/editors could hear any of the pitches. The RT staff coordinating the pitch sessions had her hands full and was at wit’s end. Charles was there to go get someone to help resolve the issue so that the aspiring authors could make their pitches to agents/editors.

    Honestly, RT was a fun convention overall. All this drama is just highlighting a few instances and blowing it out of proportion. I strongly believe that the convention would be a lot less fun without the boys and the Mr Romance competition. I also think the opportunity the competition presents to aspiring male models is valuable.

    @ Shelli Stevens

    Thanks! I agree with you too in regards to how easy it is to trash ppl online.

  83. Karen Scott
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:42:36

    @Shelli Stevens:

    It's easy to sit here and trash people online, because they don't seem ‘real', and there's a safety from doing it. But these are real people with real emotions, and I wish people would take that more into account.

    Honestly, I fail to see who’s been trashed on here. Jane’s post was innocuous at best, and certainly made no mention of Antonio by name. This thread didn’t liven up until Antonio came on and ranted about a person being put at “almost the same level as dirt.”

    His subsequent rants have made things about as clear as mud.

    All I definitely know is that, somebody came on here, and under the name of “Jack” posted that Lora Leigh had been the author who had lured poor Antonio into her room and proceeded to tie him up and take naughty pics of him. Who’s the real victim here I ask you? I have to say, from his own admissions, it doesn’t seem to be Antonio.

  84. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:48:53

    I am not trying to smear Lora. I did not let her name out of the box. When I was in the room she was nothing but sweet to me (except for stealing my shirt) and she wasn’t present or involved in any of the photographs. I was told by EC that they thought maybe she was trying to sabotage them. I suppose it is possible that this had nothing to do with her, but it would be hard to explain the vendetta the girl showing the pictures had against me and why she spread those rumors saying “I was lured” and “taking part in an orgy” and that she was just “taking pictures. Maybe she was trying to sabotage Lora at my expense. I don’t know. All I know is I was approached by EC after my show and they seemed to think that’s what she was trying to do. The author that took me up to Laura’s room was also a complete sweetheart to me all weekend and I don’t think it had anything to do with her. But I am not personally trying to slam Lora, I am just personally upset that I got slammed when I didn’t deserve to.

  85. Shiloh Walker
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:55:00

    @Antonio Angeletti:

    I couldn’t care less if you removed your clothes on stage-when did I say that?

    Let's keep in mind I was one of the polite EC cave “local strippers” who escorted you and the rest of the EC authors across the stage.

    Actually, no you weren’t. I don’t do stages. I stayed very, very far away from the stage until that was over, so, no…we don’t need to keep that in mind. I even almost tackled another author who was teasing about letting some of the EC management know I was there. I do no do stages.

    I also wasn’t one of the ones posing in any pictures with the cover models, and you can ask quite a few people in blogland to vouch for that-my issues with cameras are almost legendary. So you, your chest and your butt, I promise, have been quite safe from me and my hands.

    But again, when did I even mention strippers?

    I’ve mentioned MODELS. My issues were with a few…actually ONE of the cover model contestants…roaming around letting women whack him on the butt. It blurs the limits on what is and isn’t acceptable.

    About the issue of blackmail, here’s my problem. We are all hearing conflicting stories.

    So I’m having a hard time completely understanding that issue-I’ll be damned if I make a determination based on that.

    Let me be clear here. I don’t care if you’re a stripper or if you do male revues. I don’t care if you’re a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker. I’ll treat people with the respect I’m given.

    People, regardless of what they do, are people and if they treat others with respect, then they deserve to be treated with respect.

    I understand that you would never attend such a thing because it is obviously very intimidating for you.

    Choke. Snort. Um. Yes, sweetie. Okay. You think that.

    Maybe your just jealous that I actually have a brain and I can stick up for myself instead of letting people like you write me of as a degenerate.

    Yep. I’m know far and wide for being brainless and unfair.

    But I’m going to assume you haven’t read any of my books. But I’m pretty sure I haven’t written any degenerate male strippers in my books.

    And um… I hope you’re not bluffing about not being Jack-if I’m not mistaken, they can see your IP addy. If you’re posting from the same computer, the DA ladies can tell.

  86. Karen Scott
    May 03, 2010 @ 18:57:29

    @Antonio Angeletti:

    I was told by EC that they thought maybe she was trying to sabotage them.

    Oh now that’s verrry, very interesting.

    I can’t imagine that the bods at EC wanted that to be made public knowledge eh?

  87. Ridley
    May 03, 2010 @ 19:09:47

    I’m a bit mystified by all of this and what it has to do with DA.

    Jane thought the pageant was a bit lame. So? All pageants are a bit lame. Well, Westminster’s fun to watch, but cute dogs are a win.

    If there is some sort of grievance the strippers/contestants/booth babes have with the con’s attendees, they should have brought it to the con’s organizers. Airing it on blogs is wholly unprofessional.

    Take it up with the people who hired you.

  88. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 19:21:40

    @Antonio – so to sum up, you had no problem posing for pictures, you do strip, and you don’t mind having women lick your bicep now and then. The real concern you had was that someone was using pictures to possibly get you disqualified?

  89. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 19:27:43

    Okay Karen let’s continue to make me look like the bad guy. I guess I’m a nark now too. Why don’t you just go ahead and point that out so we can turn this into an even bigger drama. I’m pretty sure this blog isn’t going to hold up in court. It may be public information but it’s not reliable. EC questioned me about Lora’s actions I told them exactly what I have told everyone else, although sadly these stories have now been misconstrued to Lora taking me upstairs, tying me up, beating me with a shark, and raping me. EC just asked me if she mentioned anything about them and I told them no. So as I said “they seemed to think” maybe it was an attempted blow at EC. I don’t know what’s going on here. I don’t follow RT. I don’t follow EC or Lora, I have no reason to tarnish any names. I don’t follow Dorchester. I am just someone that was invited to compete for a cash prize and a modeling career. I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t know why publishing companies are asking me questions. I don’t know why people are showing pictures of me and spreading rumors. And no sorry I am not Jack go ahead and email da and ask them for the ip.

  90. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 19:32:00

    @Antonio Angeletti Karen’s comment isn’t about you. EC and Lora Leigh are longtime combatants. EC sued LL and accused her of engaging in unethical behavior. I don’t believe that their suit was successful but it was interesting to her that EC would accuse LL of trying to sabotage them (although I am not sure how getting you disqualified would “sabotage” them).

  91. Antonio Angeletti
    May 03, 2010 @ 19:42:05

    That’s a good point Jane. I didn’t know the history between LL and EC. Maybe EC heard the rumors and was looking for material for another suit. My disqualification from Dorchester’s contest wouldn’t have had anything to do with the sabotage. I worked for EC Wednesday night posing as a cave model. So maybe they thought LL was trying to make the EC guys look bad that would be the sabotage. At this point I almost wish I had kept my mouth shut because now I’m in the middle of all this.

  92. Joanne
    May 03, 2010 @ 20:36:49

    @Gwen Hayes:

    I am so very confused.

    me too but I’ve finished reading all the new releases I ordered so I’m trying to follow this thread.

    And remembering why I never, ever go to conventions.

  93. Tabby
    May 03, 2010 @ 20:58:27

    There were no hints given regarding the future of the Sookie relationship status but it sounds very tenuous. Don't look for an HEA from Harris.

    Wait up! Does this mean Sookie might not wind up with a HEA eventually? Or just that her current relationship/s are tenuous? I thought Harris told fans Sookie was going to get her HEA and she already knew who it was going to be with.

    Her site is a nightmare for me and I can’t figure it out so everything I hear is second hand on other forums. That might not be true but it has kept me reading–I’m not sure I’m interested in Sookie without the HEA.

  94. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 21:09:28

    @Tabby I’m not sure, but she emphasized that she was not writing the kind of book where happy endings were found.

  95. Tabby
    May 03, 2010 @ 21:35:58

    @Jane: Thanks, Jane. I guess I’ll just wait and see–I’m pretty sure a fan will catch wind of this and ferrit out the truth.

  96. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 21:45:19

    W……T…..F….? I got like a dozen notifications about this in my email. Hahaha. I didnt know it was like this?

    ANTONIO: Bro, people who hide behind the computer thrive off of answers like yours. Best thing to do is let this go. You have stated your point. People are going to form an opinion no matter what you say. Its become more ENTERTAINMENT rather than defending your CHARACTER. Those who mind dont matter and those who Matter dont mind.

    JANE: I honestly dont know what you have personally against Covermodels. And I say this also because I saw the DORCHESTER PUBLISHING MANGENT Twitter feed. I saw you last year and once again this year. You were the same stand offish person like always with a sucker in your mouth. Im not gonna personaly attack you, but I do wonder why you are unhappy with cover models and feel the need to post things like this and also post responses during the show as you did. I mean, Come on, you sat in the audiance just to talk trash? Really? So sad. *shakes head*

    Ive had my share of HATERS and its ok. I just refuse to surround myself with negative people and let them bring me down to thier level of unhappiness. This honestly is just another example of how people should use thier time in a more positive way rather than bringing down others.

    And I hope nobody finds the SEX TAPES I made at RT this year. GAWD imagine what the MEAN GIRL BLOGGERS are gonna say after that *DIES LAUGHING*

  97. Shelli Stevens
    May 03, 2010 @ 21:49:37

    @Karen Scott:
    honestly it was more of the comments than the post itself that I meant to reference as the bashing. I only read the first 25% before I commented. I still haven’t read most of them. And I missed how Lora Leigh came into the topic (I adore her stuff). Most of this conversation is going right over my head at this point.

    @Jane: I generally don’t get involved in ‘hot topics’ because I’m so non-confrontational and don’t like making waves :P I just wanted to weigh in on my opinion of Antonio, and I honestly thought he was a nice guy.

  98. Jane
    May 03, 2010 @ 22:04:15

    @MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ: I’m curious what mean girl blog post really set you off in 2009 because I googled for it and could not find one thing that wasn’t positive about your win.

    As for me, I blogged the following:

    Maybe in a nod to past criticism, Mr. Romance was surprisingly free of naked man titty. There were only 7 contestants this year. All of the expenses including the costumes the men wear are born by them. Some are able to get sponsors, but it really raises the idea of why. Mr. Romance is a title conferred by judges associated with Dorchester as the winner goes on an actual cover for a book at Dorchester. The attendee choice winner gets $200.

    So why would you come to a conference of women to work your butt off for 4+ days in anticipation of winning $200? It seemed odd to me. There is no question that these gentlemen were nice guys but I would think that there are other ways to get cover contracts that don't include this constant glad handing. Maybe I am wrong.

    Your claims of suffering depression so severe that you couldn’t rise from bed followed by your marketing pitch to attendees to find you on Facebook and friend you were offputting.

    I appreciate your close scrutiny. I did have a sucker in my mouth from time to time (given to me from Sarah after Romance Bingo) and yes, I have no desire to be talked up by the Mr. Romance contestants who press for your vote and constantly assume you want their picture taken with them.

  99. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 22:49:56

    JANE: Exhibit ‘A’ Your Honor Lol

    http://gawker.com/5295822/how-your-beefcake-gets-made

    Once again, I never said it was a ‘mean girl’ blogger. Just a blogger in general. Does it really matter if it was a guy or girl? =-/

    Sorry if you thought i had a ‘Feel sorry for me’ campaign against the ‘MEAN GIRL BLOGGERS’. As Im sure you have read earlier in my first post, it was not only the Blog, but also being dropped by the people who promised me everything. I had to take a step back and think to myself “What did I do wrong? Where did I mess up?” and YES, it did bring me down. ALOT. Im not afraid to tell my story and my ‘facebook’ pitch was sincere. I met so many new people that week that I had to let them know how to contact me.

    I still find it sad that you as well as others, felt the need to say some things during the show with that Twitter ‘MANGENT’ thread. Was it just a thread for people to feel better about themselves while bringing others down? People who hide behind the computer with words that are not needed? Honestly, Its not just directed at you, but also some of the others that were in there. I am amazed at those comments, but if talking bad and making fun about me brings someone else up, then by all means, go for it. If thats what makes them happy, cool. Im always for helping people and making them feel better about themselves. I guess this is just another example right? Lol.

  100. MR.ROMANCE CHARLES PAZ
    May 03, 2010 @ 22:56:07

    P.S. Didnt mean to ‘CREEP YOU OUT’. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! =-P

  101. Anion
    May 03, 2010 @ 23:10:47

    Jesus. This is a trainwreck and you men are honestly just making yourselves seem dumb as rocks. I don’t know if I want to forget I ever saw any of this or make popcorn.

    Oh, and I agree with Lynne Connolly about the internet. I can stay at a $50 a night hotel with free wifi, but a freaking Hyatt that advertises itself as a place for business travelers and conventions charges three times that and wants me to pay $10 per day for it? No freaking way. I won’t do another RT until they find a hotel that doesn’t cheat its guests in that manner or negotiate free wifi. You’re bringing that hotel hundreds of guests and free advertising. Quit bending over and letting your attendess, most of whom pay way too much anyway, get screwed.

  102. Kerry
    May 04, 2010 @ 09:07:14

    Not to change the subject, but re: the Charlaine Harris books – does anyone know why Amazon isn’t showing the Kindle version of the upcoming book? I’m wondering if they won’t have one (due to the publisher price war w/ Amazon), or if it’s just not showing because it’s not released yet.

    (Never mind – I googled some more and apparently it’s not going to be released for the Kindle. But the Amazon price is $9 for the physical book. Still, what a disappointment.)

    I really hope that contrary to what she’s saying, Sookie gets her HEA. Especially after reading 13 books….

  103. Jane
    May 04, 2010 @ 09:09:08

    @Kerry – yes, the Kindle versions of post April 2010 books are not available due to Amazon and Penguin being unable to come to some agreement.

  104. Sarah McCarty
    May 04, 2010 @ 09:55:12

    Wow, I missed all of this. Then again, I usually do miss the drama.

    I dislike the cover model aspect of RT for the same reason I dislike the Miss America pageants. It reduces a person’s importance to external criteria and that’s just not something that interests me. I do have to say, though, that both the EC cave men I met and the cover models were very professional. CJ (Ellora’s caveman) was very sweet to bring me champagne after the award ceremony (lord, it was HOT in there) and when the people eating elevator doors almost swallowed me whole, one of the cover models threw himself into the opening and got bruised instead of me. I have guilt and relief over that and wished he’d been wearing his name tag so I could post it here, but from what I saw and what I’ve read here poor behavior/choices were more of an individual thing and not a convention wide tendency. (Thank goodness) And with that any attendees, the law of averages says there will be some poor choices made over the course of four days.

    I did want to comment that I do miss the RT format of old that was less RWA like and more geared to facilitating interaction between writers and readers. I miss the daytime social opportunities that were once so abundant.

  105. joannef
    May 04, 2010 @ 11:59:06

    Wow, the Mr. Romance Pageant sounds almost as exciting as that Miss United States Pageant that Sandra Bullock was in a few years back!

  106. Kim in Hawaii
    May 04, 2010 @ 19:09:56

    Hmmm, this topic may have breathed its last life … but let’s end with some comic relief. Here’s a story I recently heard from Jill Marie Landis, historical author who lives in Kauai.

    In 1995, RWA hosted its National Convention in Waikiki, Hawaii. RWA invited Jill as the keynote speaker. In turn, she hired a chanter to open the convention with a traditional Hawaiian blessing (as is done with the Legislature sessions, new buildings, etc.). Twenty minutes before the speech, Jill spotted the chanter in a beautiful muumuu. But the accompanying male dancers were still dressed in street ware. Before Jill could inquire about their costumes, the dancers spotted a waiter pushing a cart full of cleaned tablecloths. They asked to borrow a few, stripped off their street clothes, and created a native costume for the blessing.

    Jill noted the blessing (and dancing) was a success.

    Lesson learned:
    – Be prepared.
    – Think on your feet.
    – It’s all a matter of perspective.

    So next year when RT lands in LA, let’s remember:
    – The EC party may have male dancers to promote its erotica books.
    – All participants should keep their hands to themselves.
    – Refrain from asking (or accompanying) anyone other than your roommate to a hotel room.
    – Mr. Romance is intended to promote cover models but sometimes the contestants improv.
    – If beauty pageants are not your cup of tea, go to dinner with friends before the Saturday night party.
    – RT offers a wide range of activities for every type of reader, so patronize those activities that suit your tastes.
    – And if a toga party is scheduled, look for a waiter with a cart full of tablecloths!

  107. Antonio Angeletti
    May 05, 2010 @ 01:46:16

    Anion: I appreciate you sticking up for me originally. I guess I should’ve taken your advice and gotten off of the blogs. Although, typically I find myself witty enough to come out ahead on a blog war, I have to say being one male voice among a slew of published female authors has become a mute point at best. Charles and I are getting nowhere.

    Charles: Thanks for the advice. This will be my last blog post. I didn’t mean to cause all of this drama for people to feed off of. I was just trying to stick up for you and myself and the rest of us, as you said there are a lot of HATERS out there.

    Ridley: If you were citing my comments about my problem with this year’s convention attendees. I was simply being sarcastic. I was pointing to the fact that so many people are attacking us and it would be equally stupid for us to go and attack the conventions attendees on something so arbitrary as height. Jane was making fun of Charles’ saying he was short, and I was saying that’s about as dumb as if all the MR. R. contestants started saying all of the convention attendees were too tall. I had no problem with the convention attendees everyone I talked to was great. It’s the people I haven’t met sitting behind computers dropping bombs that concern me.

    Certain partisans are now emailing me threatening to take away my placement in the MR. R. So I am withdrawing from this blog. Things have now spiraled out of control. It was never my intentions to offend any readers, authors, publishing companies, or anyone at the RT convention. I was simply trying to defend my character and the character of others involved in the Mr. R. I had no idea that these blogs were going to be viewed by everyone. I would like to apologize to EC, Lora, & Dorchester I was simply using their names to tell my story not to downgrade them. I was treated with respect by all of them during the convention and I do not personally have a problem with any of them. DEAR AUTHOR if your reading I would like to have all of my posts removed if it’s not too much to ask. If anyone would like to address me in private about this issue I can be reached at my email [email protected]

  108. Antonio Angeletti
    May 05, 2010 @ 02:09:49

    So I guess I lied and I’m posting one more time on this blog. Finally, someone who understands my point: Excellent Post

  109. Aryn
    May 05, 2010 @ 14:13:18

    @Jennifer Estep: Wow – I’m amazed that Charlaine Harris is funny out of the pages, as angst- and violence-ridden as I find most of her books. Thanks for your insight and shaking me out of my first 15 impressions of that author; always glad to have my paradigms sorted down to nickels if not pennies.

  110. Karen Knows Best
    May 08, 2010 @ 15:38:45

    Stripping: Respectable Profession Or Morally Questionable Job?…

    As most of you may have noticed, Jane's rather light-hearted Romantic Times conference recap got hi-jacked by one of the Mr Romance contestants after he took exception to….. erm….ahh who the fuck knows? If I'm honest, his story changed so many times th…

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