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  1. Ros
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 05:56:41

    The Kindle Select article is very interesting. My own experience at the moment is that my self-published books are selling approximately 100 times as many copies at B&N as they are at Amazon. I think this is because one of my non-self-published books sold well at B&N for a while (it was in the top 100 contemporary romance books) and so there is a trickle down effect for the other books. I have never been tempted to try Kindle Select, because I object so much to the idea of limiting sales to one store/one device. But I must admit that having read the article, I can’t help wondering whether it would be worth it on a temporary basis, to boost the Amazon sales of the books, trusting that the B&N sales would pick up again afterwards. Hmm.

    I like your new avatar, btw!

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  2. Courtney Milan
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 07:03:23

    The article on KDP is a terrible experiment in the scientific sense of things.

    If you want to know how B&N and Kobo recommend your books to people, the number one thing they base it off of is the prior sales record. If you take your book off sale at B&N for three months, the prior sales record is wiped, and the system thinks, “This book doesn’t sell for crap” and doesn’t recommend it to anyone. The very act of putting the book in KDP and taking it off sale on another venue, and then returning those books to paid status, biases the system against you. Of course you’re going to sell like crap–you just had three months where you sold like crap, and in digital sales, them that has, gets. Not to mention the fact that readers who had your book wishlisted on those sites had their wish list wiped, that people who heard about your book in those three months but only saw it on Amazon got annoyed with you, and so forth.

    The thing that I found most telling about the article was this: When the author said she was going to try to get her books discovered on Kobo and Barnes and Noble, she didn’t mention a single thing that she was doing to get her books discovered by readers.

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  3. Helen
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 08:27:01

    @Courtney Milan:
    Courtney! You are the queen!!! Yes, you don’t know how many people I have tried to explain this to. The other thing that would clearly impact sales is the fact that her books were up on KDP select FIRST. Even though sales are more stretched out with e than with traditional it is still those first few months when all the buzz is being generated by blogs, social media, and advertising. By the time she got it up at BN any buzz there had been was most likely over and from her article it did not seem as though she attempted to generate and “new” buzz. Amazon KDP authors now have this self perpetuating myth that they can only sell their books through Amazon and other venues never work. It is SOOOO annoying as a reader (and Nook owner!)

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  4. Anne
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 09:24:38

    I pay less than $1.50 for a coffee, I’d never buy any for much more, just as $5.99 are my limit for e-books and for that amount they had better be well above 350 pages and excellent as well. $13 I might just accept for a non-fiction book, where the hard copy is 5 to 10 times that price.

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  5. Janine
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 11:14:07

    I interpreted the Salon article differently. I felt Miller was calling male authors on their sexism in avoiding YA because it’s a genre associated with women.

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  6. Ridley
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 11:48:14

    The biggest irony I see in this $4 coffee/$13 ebook snark war is that the people who’d plonk down $4 on a coffee are the same people who’d cheerfully pay $13 for an ebook.

    Those of us who won’t pay that much for an ebook are the ones drinking $2 coffees from Dunkin Donuts.

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  7. Anne V
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 11:57:18

    @Janine: Oh – I thought she was calling male authors out on not doing YA because it’s not “prestigious” enough, regardless of the potential revenue stream. It may well be the reference to the Franzen-Oprah shenanigans that got me thinking about it that way.

    Comparing pricing between coffee, ebookss, and apps – these are three different classes things. It’s not an apples to apples comparison. It’s quiche to kivas to suvs. It’s a nice little soundbite, I guess, but it’s not useful.

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  8. MrsJoseph
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 12:38:35

    @Ridley: Exactly! I don’t pay for coffee at all. At work I only drink whats available and my boss pays roughly $0.54 per cup. I don’t drink coffee on the weekends.

    So, Brent is telling me that he doesn’t want me to buy his books at all? (Am now PO’d that I bought his trilogy already).

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  9. Darlynne
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 13:11:17

    @Ridley: A hearty third for this.

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  10. Carrie
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 13:35:29

    @Ridley: Bingo! That’s exactly what I thought when I read it. I DON’T buy $4 cups of coffee for the same reason I don’t buy $13 ebooks. They are rarely worth the expense.

    And it’s also true it’s all about perception. Today I took my 15 yr old out to lunch while running errands, even though we were close enough to go home and save $12, which I would usually do. But today the one-on-one time with my daughter was worth the money because she was in a talkative mood. I don’t see any contradiction in saving 5 cents on a carton of yogurt and then spending money to go out to eat. The two things are actually very compatible. I save where I can so I can splurge where I want to.

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  11. Ridley
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 13:51:34

    @Carrie:

    I save where I can so I can splurge where I want to.

    Bingo. I’m sorry if certain authors don’t share my value system, but *I* decide how best to budget my money. A $13 ebook is a no, but a $110 NHL ticket is a yes. Don’t like it? Not my problem.

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  12. Helen
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 17:07:46

    His book would have to be worth four cups of coffee then. I can spend a lot of time chatting with friends over a coffee – granted these days I prefer tea or water.
    Funnily enough before Borders closed I saw his books on the shelf and considered buying them for my husband. When I looked up reviews I decided not to get them. They were only two cups of coffee back then.
    I prefer to only spend about $6 on a book, but I will buy a few ebooks at $10 (Robin Owens is one author). If a book is available in hard back I try and get it from the library, or else I wait until it comes out in paperback, or I just give it a miss.
    My sons do spend a lot of time at you tube listening to music. I seem to remember one of them wants to buy some music soon. I wonder how long I can put it off? tee hee

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  13. C
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 19:27:32

    I buy coffee once a month or not at all because I like the expensive sugar filled stuff. But the money I spend on other things has nothing to do with what I spend on books. I set aside a certain amount of money for books and if I can buy 5 books with that insead of 1 then well, its obvious right? My limit for books is about £3, although if an author is one I trust then I don’t mind spending up to £5 on it. I’d never spend more than that. I agree with the comments above- save where you can so you can splurge on other things.

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