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Master of the Universe versus Fifty Shades by E.L James Comparison

Introduction

On Saturday, March 10, 2012, New York Times reported that Vintage, a literary imprint of Random House, had won the rights to republish on a large scale the ebook bestseller trilogy: 50 Shades of Grey, 50 Shades of Darker, and 50 Shades of Freed. The first in the series was number 1 on the combined ebook bestseller list with the second at No. 15 and the third at No. 21 according to the March 11, 2012, NY Times bestseller list. The series has sold over 250,000 copies according to its former publisher, Australian outfit The Writer’s Coffee Shop which specializes in selling fan fiction.

Vintage, a division of Random House, has come forward and asserted that the 50 Shades series is wholly original fiction and that the author has warranted it is original fiction, deviating substantially from the original fan fiction known as Master of the Universe.

As numerous reports have outlined, 50 SHADES OF GREY grew out of a multi-part series of fan fiction called MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE, based on Stephenie Meyer’s TWILIGHT novels, that James (a pseudonym for London-based television executive Erika Leonard) published online between 2009 and 2011 in various venues, including fanfiction.net and her own website. When she contracted with Writers Coffee Shop in early 2011 to publish the works, lightly rewritten to take out any references to Twilight characters and situations, James took the fan fiction versions offline.

Vintage issued a statement to the AP Saturday defending 50 SHADES as an original work, and said to us that James had warranted the books were, indeed original. Messitte added she was “aware of the narrative that [50 SHADES] started as differently titled piece of fiction, but that they were and are two distinctly separate pieces of work.” A request for comment from Meyer’s agent, Jodi Reamer at Writers House, was not responded to at press time.

I clarified with the writer of this piece that Vintage was saying that Master of the Universe and Fifty Shades were two distinct pieces of fiction.  In the Washington Post, Vintage is quoted as reaffirming this position:

Vintage defended “50 Shades” as an original creation with a passionate following.

“It is widely known that E.L James began to capture a following as a writer shortly after she posted her second fan fiction story,” Vintage said in a statement. “She subsequently took that story and re-wrote the work, with new characters and situations. That was the beginning of the ‘Fifty Shades’ trilogy. The great majority of readers, including fan fiction aficionados, have found ‘Fifty Shades’ deeply immersive and incredibly satisfying.”

It is well known amongst the fan fiction and romance reading community that 50 Shades series was originally released as Master of the Universe. The names are changed from the original alternate universe fan fiction (AU) and a few details such as eye color and hair color, but the text of 50 Shades is largely that which was in the original fan fiction, Master of the Universe.  (See the primer)

Percentage Comparison

We ran 50 Shades and the Master of the Universe fan fiction through three comparison engines. This was the result:

Via Yoshikoder, we weighed word comparisons.

Word Appearance in MOTU Appearance in 50 %age in MOTU %age in 50
swan 113 0 0.001731482 0
steele 0 148 0 0.001692744
isabella 148 0 0.002267782 0
anastasia 0 217 0 0.002481929
rose 212 3 0.003248445 3.43124E-05
kate 1 272 1.53229E-05 0.003110989
cullen 211 0 0.003233122 0
grey 12 267 0.000183874 0.003053802
christian 0 405 0 0.004632171
edward 281 0 0.004305722 0
bella 109 0 0.001670191 0
ana 0 135 0 0.001544057
esme 4 0 6.12914E-05 0
grace 3 9 4.59686E-05 0.000102937

Using Diff Doc, we have this as an example. It is the beginning of Chapter Two:

  Double crap – me and my two left feet!  I am on my hands and knees in the doorway to Mr Cullen’s Mr. Grey’s  office, and gentle hands are around me helping to pull me up. to stand.  I am so embarrassed, damn my clumsiness. I have to steel myself to glance up. Holy Crow, cow –  he’s so young… young.

“Miss Hale…” Kavanagh.”  he extends a long-fingered hand to me, me  once I’m stood. upright.  “I’m Edward Cullen. Christian Grey.  Are you all right? Would you like to sit?”

 He’s so young… young –  and attractive. attractive,  Very attractive. He’s  Tall, dressed in a fine grey gray  suit, white shirt shirt,  and black tie with unruly bronze dark copper colored  hair and intense, bright green gray  eyes that regard me shrewdly.

   “Err… actually,” It takes a moment for me to find my voice, and voice.

   “Um. Actually-”  I think my mouth has plopped open in astonishment. mutter.  If this guy is over thirty then I’m a monkey’s uncle… uncle. In a daze,  I extend place  my hand to him in a daze, his  and we shake. As our fingers touch touch,  I feel a strange current go an odd exhilarating shiver run  through me. I withdraw my hand hastily, and embarrassed. Must be static.  I can feel myself blinking… blink  rapidly, my eyelids  matching my heart rate.


Turnitin

We processed 50 Shades as a student paper against another student paper (MoTU).  According to Turnitin, the similarity index was 89%.  There are whole swaths of text wherein just the names were changed from MoTU to 50 Shades.  Click on the thumbnail for an example.  The red is the text that is the same in both pieces.

Turnitin comparison

Textual Comparison

Randomly I selected passages from the Fifty trilogy and searched MOTU for comparison. Here are some selected comparison.

Fifty Shades of Grey

MoTU I Fifty Shades of Grey
There‘s a knock at the door and Blond Number Two enters. “Mr Cullen, forgive me for interrupting but your next meeting is in two minutes. There’s a knock at the door, and Blonde Number Two enters. “Mr. Grey, forgive me for interrupting, but your next meeting is in two minutes.
As I leave the city limits behind me I begin to feel foolish and embarrassed. Surely I‘m over-reacting to something that I‘m imagining…. Okay, so he‘s very attractive, confident, commanding, so at ease with himself. But on the flip side he‘s also arrogant, and in spite of his impeccable manners, he‘s very autocratic, and cold… well on the surface, and an involuntary shiver runs down my spine. He may be arrogant but then he‘s accomplished so much at such a young age, and I can tell he doesn‘t suffer fools gladly, why should he? I am irritated again that Rose didn‘t give me a brief biography. As I leave the city limits behind, I begin to feel foolish and embarrassed as I replay the interview in my mind. Surely, I’m overreacting to something that’s imaginary. Okay, so he’s very attractive, confident, commanding, at ease with himself – but on the flip side, he’s arrogant, and for all his impeccable manners, he’s autocratic and cold. Well, on the surface. An involuntary shiver runs down my spine. He may be arrogant, but then he has a right to be – he’s accomplished so much at such a young age. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly, but why should he? Again, I’m irritated that Kate didn’t give me a brief biography.
“What about our arrangement?”"We don’t have an arrangement yet.”He narrows his eyes at me, then seems to remember himself. Releasing my hand, he takes my elbow and leads me out of the room. “This conversation is not over,” he whispers threateningly as we enter the dining room. Oh crapola, don‘t get your panties in such a twist… and give me back mine. I glare at him.The dining room reminds me of our private dinner at the Heathman. A crystal chandelier hangs over the dark wood table and there‘s a massive, ornately carved mirror on the wall. The table is laid and covered with a large linen table cloth, a bowl of pale pink peonies as the centre piece. It‘s quite stunning, and then I remember Edward mentioning that Esme was an interior designer. “What about our arrangement”"We don’t have an arrangement yet.” He narrows his eyes, and then seems to remember himself. Releasing my hand, he takes my elbow and leads me out of the room. “This conversation is not over,” he whispers threateningly as we enter the dining room. Oh, crapola. Don’t get your panties in such a twist… and give me back mine. I glare at him.The dining room reminds me of our private dinner at the Heathman. A crystal chandelier hangs over the dark wood table and there’s a massive, ornately carved mirror on the wall. The table is laid and covered with a crisp white linen tablecloth, a bowl of pale pink peonies as the centerpiece. It’s stunning.
Edward, embarrassed or frustrated by the lavish attention I‘m receiving from the remaining Cullens, grabs my hand and pulls me to his side.”Well let‘s not frighten her away or spoil her with too much affection,” he grumbles.”Oh Edward, stop teasing.” Esme scolds him indulgently, her eyes glowing with love and affection for him. Somehow I don‘t think he‘s teasing. I surreptitiously watch their interaction. It‘s obvious Esme adores him, with a mother’s unconditional love. He bends and kisses her stiffly. Christian, embarrassed or frustrated by the lavish attention I’m receiving from the remaining Greys, grabs my hand and pulls me to his side.”Let’s not frighten her away or spoil her with too much affection,” he grumbles.”Christian, stop teasing.” Grace scolds him indulgently, her eyes glowing with love and affection for him. Somehow, I don’t think he’s teasing. I surreptitiously watch their interaction. It’s obvious Grace adores him with a mother’s unconditional love. He bends and kisses her stiffly
The apartment is achingly empty and unfamiliar. I have not lived here long enough for it to feel like home. I head straight to my room and there, hanging limply at the end of my bed, is a very sad deflated helicopter balloon. Echo Charlie, looking and feeling exactly like me. I grab it angrily off my bedrail, snapping the tie, and hug it to me. Oh, what have I done? I fall onto my bed, shoes and all, and howl. The pain is indescribable… physical, mental, metaphysical… it is everywhere, seeping into the marrow of my bones. Grief, this is grief, and I‘ve brought it on myself. Deep down, a nasty unbidden thought comes from my inner goddess, her lip curled in a snarl. The physical pain from the bite of a belt is nothing, nothing compared to this devastation. I curl up, desperately clutching the flat foil balloon and Taylor‘s handkerchief, and surrender myself to my grief. The apartment is achingly empty and unfamiliar. I have not lived here long enough for it to feel like home. I head straight to my room, and there, hanging limply at the end of my bed, is a very sad, deflated helicopter balloon. Charlie Tango, looking and feeling exactly like me. I grab it angrily off my bedrail, snapping the tie, and hug it to me. Oh – what have I done? I fall onto my bed, shoes and all, and howl. The pain is indescribable… physical, mental… metaphysical… it is everywhere, seeping into the marrow of my bones. Grief. This is grief – and I’ve brought it on myself. Deep down, a nasty, unbidden thought comes from my inner goddess, her lip curled in a snarl… the physical pain from the bite of a belt is nothing, nothing compared to this devastation. I curl up, desperately clutching the flat foil balloon and Taylor’s handkerchief, and surrender myself to my grief

50 Shades of Darker

MOTU I 50 Shades of Darker
I have survived Day Two Post Edward, and my first day at work. It has been a welcome distraction. The time has flown by in a haze of new faces, work to do and Mr. James Smith. He smiles down at me, his dark blue eyes twinkling, as he leans against my desk.”Excellent work, Bella. I think we‘re going to make a great team.” He beams at me, knowingly.Somehow, I manage to curl my lips upwards in a semblance of a smile. I have survived Day Three Post-Christian, and my first day at work. It has been a welcome distraction. The time has flown by in a haze of new faces, work to do, and Mr. Jack Hyde. Mr. Jack Hyde… he smiles down at me, his blue eyes twinkling, as he leans against my desk.”Excellent work, Ana. I think we’re going to make a great team.”Somehow, I manage to curl my lips upward in a semblance of a smile.
I awake with a jolt. My head is fuzzy and I am too warm. Edward is wrapped around me. He grumbles in his sleep as I slip out of his arms, but he doesn’t wake. I sit up and glance at the radio alarm… three in the morning. I need an Advil, and a drink. I swing my legs out of bed and make my way up the hallway towards the great room.In the fridge I find a carton of orange juice and pour myself a long glass. Hmm… it’s delicious, and my fuzzy head eases immediately. I awake with a jolt. My head is fuzzy and I’m too warm. Christian is wrapped around me like a vine. He grumbles in his sleep as I slip out of his arms, but he doesn’t wake. Sitting up I glance at the alarm clock. It’s three in the morning. I need an Advil and a drink. I swing my legs out of bed and make my way to the kitchen in the great room.In the fridge, I find a carton of orange juice and pour myself a glass. Hmm… it’s delicious, and my fuzzy head eases immediately. I hunt through the cupboards looking for some painkillers and eventually come across a plastic box full of meds. I sink two Advil and pour myself another orange juice.
He chuckles mirthlessly, then winces. Fuck, his ribs. Still sore from the swift kicking Cullen’s henchman delivered. He replays the scene in his mind.”You fucking touch Miss Swan again, I’ll fucking kill you.” That c___ will get it good, too. Yeah – get what’s coming to him.He settles back in the car seat. Looks like it’s going to be a long night. He’ll stay and watch and wait. He takes another toke of his Marlboro red. His chance will come. His chance will come soon. He chuckles mirthlessly, then winces. Fuck, his ribs. Still sore from the swift kicking Grey’s henchman delivered. He replays the scene in his mind.”You fucking touch Miss Steele again, I’ll fucking kill you.” That m__f__ will get it good, too. Yeah—get what’s coming to him.He settles back in his seat. Looks like it’s going to be a long night. He’ll stay, watch, and wait. He takes another toke of his Marlboro red. His chance will come. His chance will come soon.

50 Shades of Freed

MOTU II 50 Shades of Freed
I stare up through gaps in the seagrass parasol at the bluest of skies, Mediterranean blue… I can‘t help my contented sigh. Edward is beside me, stretched out on a sun lounger. My husband – my hot, beautiful husband, shirtless and in cut-off jeans – is reading a book predicting the collapse of the Western banking system. By all accounts it‘s a page-turner… I haven‘t seen him sit this still, ever. He looks more like a student than the hotshot CEO of one the US‘s top privately owned companies. I stare up through gaps in the sea grass parasol at the bluest of skies, summer blue, Mediterranean blue with a contented sigh. Christian is beside me, stretched out on a sun lounger. My husband—my hot, beautiful husband, shirtless, and in cut-off jeans—is reading a book predicting the collapse of the Western banking system. By all accounts it’s a page-turner; I haven’t seen him sit this still, ever. He looks more like a student than the hotshot CEO of one the top privately owned companies in the United States.
“You confound me, Mrs Cullen,” he murmurs.”Confound you?” He shifts so that we‘re face to face.”Yes. You. Calling the shots. It‘s… different.”"Good different? Or bad different?” I reach up and trail a finger over his lips. His brow furrows, as if he doesn‘t quite understand the question. Absentmindedly he purses his lip to kiss my finger. “You confound me, Mrs. Grey.”"Confound you?”He shifts so that we’re face to face. “Yes. You. Calling the shots. It’s… different.””Good different? Or bad different?” I reach up and trail a finger over his lips. His brow furrows, as if he doesn’t quite understand the question. Absentmindedly, he purses his lips to kiss my finger.
“Well, fact is I saw it when your BlackBerry fell out of your jacket. While I was undressing you because you were too drunk to undress yourself. Do you have any idea how much you‘ve hurt me, going to see that woman?”He pales momentarily but I‘m on a roll, my inner bitch unleashed. “Do you remember last night when you came home? Remember what you said?” He gazes at me, green eyes blazing hot, the rest of his face frozen.”Well, you were right. I do choose this defenseless baby over you. That‘s what any loving parent does. That‘s what your mother should have done for you. “Well, fact is I saw it when your BlackBerry fell out of your jacket while I was undressing you because you were too drunk to undress yourself. Do you have any idea how much you’ve hurt me by going to see that woman?”He pales momentarily, but I’m on a roll, my inner bitch unleashed. “Do you remember last night when you came home? Remember what you said?”He stares at me blankly, his face frozen. “Well, you were right. I do choose this defenseless baby over you. That’s what any loving parent does. That’s what your mother should have done for you.
“So you want to play?” he murmurs.”Yes.” He says nothing, and I risk a quick glance… up his jeans, his denim clad thighs, the soft bulge at his fly, the open button at the waist, his happy trail, his navel, his chiseled abdomen, his chest hair… his green eyes blazing, and his head cocked to one side. He‘s arching an eyebrow. Oh shit.”Yes what?” he whispers.Oh. ”Yes, Sir.”His eyes darken and my breath hitches.  ”Good girl,” he murmurs, and he caresses my head. “I think we‘d better get you upstairs, now,” he adds. My insides liquefy and my belly clenches in that delicious way.
Oh I love this man: my husband, my lover, father of my child, my sometimes Dominant… my Fifty Shades.
“So you want to play?” he murmurs. “Yes.”He says nothing, and I risk a quick glance . . . up his jeans, his denim clad thighs, the soft bulge at his fly, the open button at the waist, his happy trail, his navel, his chiseled abdomen, his chest hair, his gray eyes blazing, and his head cocked to one side. He’s arching an eyebrow. Oh shit.”Yes what?” he whispers.Oh. ”Yes, Sir.”His eyes soften. “Good girl,” he murmurs, and he caresses my head.  ”I think we’d better get you upstairs now,” he adds. My insides liquefy, and my belly clenches in that delicious way.  He takes my hand and I follow him through the apartment and up the stairs. Outside the playroom door, he halts and bends and kisses me gently before grasping my hair hard.“”You know, you’re topping from the bottom,” he murmurs against my lips.

“What?” I don’t understand what he’s talking about.


The epilogue appears to be completely new fiction not represented in the original fan fiction. The MOTU I & II contains several extra scenes.

Conclusion

Vintage says of MOTU and 50 Shades, “they were and are two distinctly separate pieces of work.” Turnitin says they are 89% the same.

With the success of Alternate Universe fan fiction and the successful leveraging of that fandom into seven figure economic rewards, the influx of fan fiction into professional publishing is likely to begin at greater levels than previous. Some publishers give public guides as to how to disguise one’s fan fiction.  St. Martin’s Press is publishing books that are being marketed as an homage to the Brady Bunch. I think its important, if we go down this route, that provenance is stated. It’s no different than the “First Publication” markers on prolific authors like Nora Roberts. It’s an indicator to readers that they may have encountered this before and it gives the fandom that propelled the author to success a nod. At the very least its courteous. At the most, its truthful advertising.

DA will be presenting a series of posts on fan fiction as a creative form, the fan fiction community, and the legal and ethical issues involved in reworking fan fiction. We will be posting those in the coming days, and we would love for our readers to join the discussion. We’ll be hosting interviews with a legal scholar who has also written fan fiction and is committed to supporting the creative endeavors of the community, as well as with authors and other participants in the community.

Jane Litte is the founder of Dear Author, a lawyer, and a lover of pencil skirts. She spends her downtime reading romances and writing about them. Her TBR pile is much larger than the one shown in the picture and not as pretty. You can reach Jane by email at jane @ dearauthor dot com

443 Comments

  1. mozzer0906
    Mar 17, 2012 @ 23:38:46

    Here is the problem.

    EL James used Stephenie Meyer’s fandom to create a fanbase. To get a test market for her fiction. To get their feedback. They were there because of Bella and Edward, who are very much SMeyer’s creations. If it weren’t for Bella/Edward/Twilight, EL James wouldn’t have gotten the feedback, wouldn’t have had the fanbase, wouldn’t have gotten a “publishing house” to publish her book. She owes everything about the popularity of this book to S Meyer and her creation. THAT makes it unethical. This fiction never would have seen the light of day if it weren’t for the crazed legion of fanfiction fans who supported her. Fans who came into the fandom BECAUSE of Bella and Edward.

    Not to mention people are paying the same price for a book riddled with errors and grammar problems as they would have something edited by a real publishing house. And forgiving it because the sex is hot? Please. This is devastating for all writing, to praise something so poorly edited is just a smack in the face of any author or editor that spent years honing their crafts.

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  3. credoroza
    Mar 18, 2012 @ 13:05:47

    I read MOTU and MOTU II. I also have them both on PDF. I also bought 50Shades expecting more than a cut and paste. It was a definite cut and paste and anyone who has read both knows this, including Vintage. Why all the hoopla when we all know. The bigger issue is to me is the denial. It is what it is and ELJ is making a huge success out of a derivative story line. I think we should all wait for her to publish something original and see if she has the same success, or is she just a flash in the pan.

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  6. Shellibelli
    Mar 21, 2012 @ 19:54:29

    @credoroza:

    anyway to find her original masters books online now? you know i read a few fanfiction and they are wonderful. why shouldnt they be published? if they are that good. im sure something should be paid to Meyers, still, it gives the fans what they want. More of what they love.

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  7. credoroza
    Mar 21, 2012 @ 20:02:11

    Shellibelli – I bought the pub version because I liked the fanfic so much. I was just disappointed in that if you are going to publish your fanfic, you should re-work it. Add some scenes, something. The published version is an exact replica of the fanfic. Exactly with only name changes. There was no reason to buy it when I have it on PDF as many of us do. You can google it and find it, not that difficult.

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  9. Areli
    Mar 23, 2012 @ 12:46:43

    As a reader, I absolutely LOVED MOTU, all of them and read them when they were online. They are brilliant in storyline. I truly believe that if James had released this novel without making it a fanfiction first, it still would be a success because it is so beyond where many writers even attempt to go. It wouldn’t take long for it to fly around the world. I don’t believe she is trying to hide anything. It feels like she is fighting more for her work than anything and thats a shame because fanfiction or not, its an excellent story. It shouldn’t be about whether or not it was fanfiction, except that she should take care not to steal the characters from SM, which it sounds like she hasn’t because I’ve read many books written before The Twilight Saga where I had to stop and re-read the description because the male or female in the book greatly resembled Edward and Bella from Twilight. Its not fair to accuse James of stealing SM’s work, then. In fact, when I was reading MOTU, I remember writing James and encouraging her to make this into a novel so, as a reader and a Twilight fan, I am not offended and couldn’t be happier to see this in a separate novel.

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  10. Moriah Jovan
    Mar 23, 2012 @ 13:12:26

    @Areli:

    I truly believe that if James had released this novel without making it a fanfiction first…

    But she didn’t. The question then becomes: Could she have? And we will never know…

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  11. Amber
    Mar 24, 2012 @ 20:34:18

    I read this story for free as MOTU over two years ago. I supported Erika aka EL aka SQ Icedragon when she was writing this and another fanfic. I encouraged her and told her if she wrote and published a story I would absolutely buy it! However I assumed she would write an original story, not take the story she wrote for us, her fans who were only fans of hers bc we went to find some fun twilight fanfic. We write fanfic for the love of writing, your reviewers appreciate your writing and love you for it (I’ve written a few in the past) and if I were to ever publish I would start with something new fresh and original. I would never betray my extremely loyal fanfic fans by pulling my story and republishing it for profit, especially when there is a website out there that sells pieces of different fanfics to raise money and help different organizations. It saddens me to see that EL, SQ whatever has pulled this story from her original fans only to publish it without fixing the editing issues etc to charge a price.

    In regards to copying SM Ana is Bella Swan, she’s clumsy, awkward, timid yet adored and Christian is jealous, controlling, adopted, rich, tall, lean with wild copper hair (or is it bronze) whatever he’s Edward Cullen. As much as I liked MOTU I loved it as a fanfic, I would never read it and pay for it in normal for. Her quality of writing wasn’t good, she used old English when they are both American. She wasted pages upon pages for the contract and Bella… Um I mean Ana’s inner monologue was annoying and just too young.

    Like I said if SQ told her fanfic fans – hey I’m writing an original piece and would love your support not only would I buy it, but I would blog about it and purchase copies for my friends. I actually felt close to SQ when we would exchange ideas, reviews etc with each other chapter after chapter. I don’t blame her for wanting to make money, dont we all. But she’s giving fanfic authors and publishing authors a bad name.

    @ros Said it well go back and read his comment

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  12. KellyJane
    Mar 24, 2012 @ 20:47:35

    Amber,

    Great point!! I totally agree with you! Not too mention you can still find MOTU online so it’s free for those who have thought to look for it .

    I personally feel like she’s stolen SMs characters she didn’t do a good enough job to change her stories!

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  14. thoward
    Mar 25, 2012 @ 12:07:04

    Since I knew nothing about the original MOTU series as fanfiction (no I don’t live under a rock, but didn’t peruse those types of websites…) I LOVED the 50 Shades triology.
    I do have to admit though that even not knowing about any comparisons, I HAD Rob in my head with every description of Christian Grey!
    So yes, I think they would have been a hit anyways!

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  18. Nicolette
    Mar 27, 2012 @ 07:08:45

    @credoroza:
    Hi! You mentioned that you had both MOTU and MOTU II as pdf files, I wondered whether you could send them to me, for I would like to see for myself the resemblance between the book and the fanfiction (I can’t find it on ff.net, where it was originally posted). I would be very grateful for your help. Cheers!

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  19. Jami Gold
    Mar 27, 2012 @ 10:42:14

    @Nicolette: If you do a Google search on Master of the Universe PDF or Fifty Shades of Grey PDF, I’m sure you’ll find it.

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  20. credoroza
    Mar 27, 2012 @ 19:53:54

    @Nicolette:

    If you can’t find online, send me your email, I will send you the PDF’s. MOTU and SoG are exactly the same. A complete cut and paste except for name changes.

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  21. Lisa
    Mar 27, 2012 @ 21:52:08

    @@credoroza:
    Credoroza..could you send me the pdf of MOTU..Thank you so much! my email is [edited by Jane]

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  22. jane
    Mar 28, 2012 @ 19:02:21

    I just hope they feature Rob and Kristen in the MOVIE :)

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  23. credoroza
    Mar 28, 2012 @ 19:59:23

    Not for all the money in the world would R/K do the movie if the movie ever does get done :)

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  24. silargurf
    Mar 29, 2012 @ 09:31:44

    @credoroza:

    Would you mind sending me the MOTU pdf too? Read it back when it was been posted and I would like to keep it as it was originally written. My email is [edited by Jane]. Thank you!

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  25. Janet
    Mar 29, 2012 @ 19:38:08

    Please email me a copy of the Odets for MOTU1 & 2 . My email is: [edited by Jane]

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  26. Janet
    Mar 29, 2012 @ 19:43:05

    Please send the PDFs I meant to write.
    Thanks.

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  27. Jane
    Mar 29, 2012 @ 19:48:32

    Hey folks. I deleted the emails because I don’t want spammers to scrape your email addresses from the site. I encourage you to use google. Like Masters of the Universe PDF. There seem to be plenty of sites out there hosting the old fan fiction.

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  28. carrie
    Mar 30, 2012 @ 20:56:22

    @Nicolette:

    If you’re still looking for it online.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?abpk5d34ks52kc9

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  29. gabi44
    Mar 31, 2012 @ 07:23:38

    the main thing people are upset about is that the Fan Fiction Stories are a combination of people helping the writer with new Ideas and plots …so a writer never gets stuck…and so its not original . There are so many FF with other characters from Movies like Harry Potter but nobody cares because these stories are not written with Robert in mind

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  30. credoroza
    Mar 31, 2012 @ 07:43:02

    @gabi44:

    That is true. The author also used to tweet for help at the time for the American verbiage as well. So why FSoG is still filled with Britishisms is beyond me.

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  31. Stephanie
    Apr 01, 2012 @ 11:38:32

    at credoroza, I know you are probably tired of everyone asking, but would you please send me a copy of MOTU in PDF. Please, we are all fans here and just want to read the original with the names Bella and Edward :) I would appreciate it more than you know!!

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  32. Stephanie
    Apr 01, 2012 @ 11:40:08

    email:
    [removed by Jane]
    sorry, got excited!

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  33. credoroza
    Apr 01, 2012 @ 11:44:35

    Don’t post your emails on your comments. Like Jane said, you don’t want to be attacked by spammers!

    You can find me on Twitter, same user. Just DM me or contact me on my blog. It’s in my Twitter profile. :)

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  34. JodieW
    Apr 01, 2012 @ 21:05:22

    Despite not reading either writers’ books, I could see the similarities just from my memories of Twilight and reading the first three chapters of 50 on Amazon. From little character quirks such as pushing the hair behind the ear, Jose Senior/Ray being old friends, to actual characters like the dredlocked dude (Laurent) and the three blonde employees (the amazon vampires)? This book is pure fanfiction and so many things in what I read looked like obvious nods to the work to please the fans of the original work.

    Yawn. But what’s new.

    We’ve become a society of recyclers and thieves. Readers don’t have a problem with uploading an authors’ work and sharing it with the world and fans don’t have a problem with stealing characters and worlds to build them a fan base on another author’s shoulders and make a profit off of it.

    What I can’t get over is the obvious disregard by the writer and reader regarding the development of characters and worlds that readers love. Its easy to come up with dialogue if you’ve been given the blueprint. Its comprable to when you were in grammar school and you had to write an essay on a topic question. Its not easy, but at least you’re given a reference point. But if you asked students to come up with their own topic/subject some would sit there for hours or write nothing at all.

    Admittedly I don’t like fan fiction, never have and personally I’ve never sought it out or read it until this 50 stuff. I’ve always been one of those readers who after finishing a book I moved on. There’s nothing clever or novel about fanfiction. It seems grounded in ego stroking at another author’s expense. How can you learn anything from developing a plot/conflict/characters/settings when everything is taken from someone elese’s work?

    What I want to know is how many of the writers who started in this genre are still “finding inspiration” in other’s work? Probably a ton considering why you see so many romances that look like virtual ripoffs.

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  35. ellenn
    Apr 02, 2012 @ 01:12:29

    @carrie: The download to the page you put here was great. Can you please share MOTU 2 as well? Thank you for sharing :)

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  36. Alma Katsu: Is Fifty Shades of Grey a New Frontier in Fan Fiction? | USA Press
    Apr 04, 2012 @ 09:43:21

    [...] manuscript, Master of the Universe, explicitly as Twilight fan fiction on fan fiction sites. A comparative analysis done by Jane Litte of Dear Author.com pretty much makes a clear case for Fifty Shades being a [...]

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    Apr 05, 2012 @ 12:46:40

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  38. Tanya
    Apr 05, 2012 @ 18:13:43

    @JodieW:

    Very well said! I too have never been into fanfic, I have tried reading it but couldn’t get past the sex scenes for no reason other than sex scenes and the using of anothers work to gratify themselves.

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  39. Marsha
    Apr 06, 2012 @ 03:07:23

    I’m just glad this issue is getting some significant press now. The romance novel field is full of small publishers who knowingly seek out people who write fanfic online and edit it into something they call original, even though it is not. What galls me is both the publishers who are taking advantage of inexperienced people (easy to underpay them and make them scapegoats if the plagiarism is uncovered) and the authors who have no qualms about taking the characters of someone else or, sometimes, the real lives of famous people and just changing a few names around and calling it their own.

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  40. Is Fifty Shades of Grey for Moms? | Helping Moms Connect
    Apr 09, 2012 @ 11:58:35

    [...] a book! So I immediately started doing some research. The short backstory of the book is that it allegedly began as Twilight fan fiction called Master of the Universe. Because of that, you will see a lot of similarities between Fifty Shades and Twilight. Anastasia [...]

  41. credoroza
    Apr 10, 2012 @ 20:09:48

    The amount of publicity and notoriety is awe inspiring. I have never seen anything like this with a first time author. But what goes up must come down and I think it will be the author’s undoing. A flash in the pan. There is absolutely no way she will ever reach this level again and it’s a shame. What started out as a stepping stone from FF in to the real world of publishing will eventually backfire on her. Who knows if she can really write?

    Here’s another link to the hoopla by ABC’s 20/20, can you imagine?? > http://abcnews.go.com/2020/mailform?id=16102357

    I live in NYC, maybe I should sign up? Not. Hubs already told me he will not participate in the shenanigans. Drats! FYI – he read it too to see what all the monkeyshine was about. When he finished, he wanted to know what my problem was and when did I succumb to reading brain numbing crap, his words. I have others…

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  42. Shaneka
    Apr 11, 2012 @ 13:21:01

  43. Shaneka
    Apr 11, 2012 @ 14:57:21

    @carrie:

    does this download have part one and two. I wouldn’t want to download a virus. Unfamiliar to that website.

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  44. Stephanie
    Apr 11, 2012 @ 16:18:40

    @credoroza:
    Thank you for deleting my email address off of here! …And of course, thank you again for the MoTU PDF :)

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  45. Stephanie
    Apr 11, 2012 @ 16:20:07

    @Stephanie: I guess Jane too :)

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  46. gabi44
    Apr 12, 2012 @ 16:39:30

    @Areli: did you ever read a real good Book , not just a Story of an obsessive demanding Man who has to unleash his pervert side on an innocent Virgin , introducing her to that kind of Sex and he is drawn to her …WHY ..because she is biting her lip and is clumsy…I do not understand why we as women like to be tied up to the satisfaction of a Guy..she didn’t like it ether or why did she leave him..a lot here do not understand how degrading and absurd that Story is..the Tampon scene left me cringing and I’m almost ashamed that I read that smut…they sell stories like that under the counter in a Variety Store…Its kind of sad that only twisted perverted Sex gets most going ….

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  47. Jared Kimbrell
    Apr 13, 2012 @ 15:14:33

    I am definitely not into BDSM tales, but I have to say that I absolutely loved this one. This was one of those books that keeps you glued to the pages; staying up reading in to the morning hours. I found it to be really addicting which is really disturbing personally.

    This is not your typical boy meets girl let’s date and fall in love romance. Christian wants to dominate Anastasia and he wants her submissive. He comes up with a contract that he wants her to sign. She’s torn between her love for him and her fear of him.

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  48. anonymous
    Apr 17, 2012 @ 14:10:49

    1) If it was originally FF, it CANNOT ever be original fiction. The characters and their characteristics are rooted in the original piece. her characters and their descriptions are exactly the same in FSoG as they were in MOTU, which means they are virtually the same as the source material (because they were the same in MotU as they were in Twilight).

    2) Copyright issues (which is tied to #1): if the characters are indecipherable from the source material, they are (or should be) protected by SM’s copyright. Copyrighting fictional characters (or determining if they are protected) is a murky issue in the Courts. The general consensus is the distinguishing one character from another. Is MotU/FSoG Edward/Christian different than Twilight’s Edward? No. Same goes for Bella, her parents, Edward’s parents, Edward’s siblings, etc.

    3) Copyright issues (different from #2): much of MotU/FSoG’s text is similar or exactly the same as Twilight (ie catchphrases/terms, such as “Holy Crow!”)

    4) Have an original thought/idea (all of the above included): Icy didn’t come up with an original idea. At all. If she had, she would’ve started writing it as original fiction.

    5) Accuracy: her representation of BDSM is so incorrect that it’s beyond laughable.

    6) The editing of the story: it wasn’t well edited as a fic, and it’s still not well edited. In fact, it’s disgraceful.

    7) Icy herself: she has said some very sketchy things about the fandom and her reasons for posting/pulling. She’s out for a buck and nothing else, which brings us back to, well, all of the above.

    8) This story is supposed to take place in the US, but so much of it is British (refer back to #6) and Britishisms are prevalent.

    9) Fanfiction is the act of writing fiction based on a story (TV, movie, etc.) that you love. Pulling to publish indicates that a) you actually don’t care about the source material; b) you don’t care about the people reading FF; c) you only want to make a quick buck on the backs of the people who read your original story. To me, she couldn’t give a rat’s ass about Twilight or the people within it and only wrote a story based in this fandom as a way of getting built-in readership. If her first fic hadn’t bombed the way it had, I have a sneaking suspicion she would’ve pulled to publish that and MotU never would’ve existed.

    10) It is a never-ending, rambling, over-dramatic story lacking any real story. (I actually left a review about 55 chapters in that pissed off Icy because I told her to just end the damn story and start a sequel a few years in the future. She only took part of my advice.)

    11) If you have such a great story idea, don’t write it as FF. Just write it as original fiction (yep, refer back to #4).

    12) Back to the money issue: there is absolutely no way this story is worth $5, let alone $5 million.

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  49. The Ethical Dilemma of Publishing Fan Fiction. « hybridtheoryfirstbeach
    Apr 20, 2012 @ 08:43:59

    [...] Recently, I came across an article that could put the entire Twilight fandom in jeopardy. A Russian girl had a copy of the original PDF of the Master of the Universe fanfic and wrote an article comparing the similarities between MotU and  the Fifty Shades trilogy. Many people were outraged by it and I was not surprised when some contacted Stephenie Meyer and her agent about that book series. You can read that article at http://dearauthor.com/features/industry-news/master-of-the-universe-versus-fifty-shades-by-e-l-james…. [...]

  50. Rachel (pixydust)
    Apr 20, 2012 @ 21:27:12

    Uhg…this is beyond upsetting and disgusting. I’ll be very curious to see if Meyers bites back. I kind of hope she does–this is a hugely unethical president to set. And this example of it (getting paid through the roof) will only encourage more messers and make the lines of copyright more blurry than they already are.

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  51. Rachel (pixydust)
    Apr 20, 2012 @ 21:28:09

    @anonymous: Sad and true :/

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  52. Kesha
    Apr 28, 2012 @ 14:39:39

    @Cory:

    I couldn’t agree more with your statement Cory!

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  53. Phae
    Apr 30, 2012 @ 08:28:26

    @Meri: If you read Claire’s fanfiction, she used a fair few chunks of her Harry Potter fanfiction in her books, it certainly isn’t the whole book, but whole scenes from her fanfiction were used in her published work, and she drew heavily on other sources when she wrote her fanfiction.

    That said, nothing is ever entirely new, even in an entirely original book.

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  54. credoroza
    Apr 30, 2012 @ 22:12:11

    I have to disagree. There is a place for fanfiction, no matter how good or an enjoyable read it might be. Fanfiction is derivative story lines. They have no place in the published world.

    How so many get away with it boggles the mind. CC in my opinion is the worst offender. Her entire series is HP based.

    And the prices they charge. Jeepers! These are new “authors” and the audacity of charging 15.99 for a paperback and 9.99 for the e-book is deplorable and greedy. But they have a bandwagon and as long as the bandwagon keeps rolling, they will get away with it.

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  55. Jackie
    May 02, 2012 @ 11:12:51

    My only issue with the whole thing is she won’t cop to it. She had a HUGE Following on FanFiction as well as other blogs. This story actually led to a crack down on FF.net about maturity content since ANYONE any age can log on and read things they possibly shouldn’t be reading. Several stories were removed from FF.net starting with this one due to she had over a million reviews on the series when it was published as ‘Master of the Universe’. She started her own blog and posted the stories there. She sent out repeated emails pretty much begging her ‘followers’ to buy the book. THAT is the reason why the book was so sought over. Everyone wanted their own little piece of ‘Edward Cullen Master of the Universe’. It’s honestly poorly written and gives the WRONG idea to the BDSM lifestyle, but also saying that the BDSM life is so unique there is no black or white it is all ‘Grey’ .. I don’t think it’s right piggy backing off of someone’s fame since if it wasn’t for the Twilight Fandom in Fan Fiction this book would have never been given a second look. Several authors *(whom are listed on FF.net front page) who don’t allow Writers to use their characters for Fan Fiction. And I find it already troubling enough that there is FanFiction written for this series.. how can you write FanFiction about Fan Fiction???? She should be ashamed, and tell the truth. I for one will not support the books, or the movie that is supposedly in the works.

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  56. Orsonia
    May 07, 2012 @ 18:54:53

    The Twilight publisher/author should take the publisher to court. Since the fanfiction book was successful due to it being a fanfiction piece of the Twilight series, one could say that the 50 success is a result of the fanfiction success. They are selling repackaged Twilight fanfiction. They own Twilight a lot of money.

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  57. AJ
    May 08, 2012 @ 12:10:32

    @Keziah Hill: It isn’t plagiarism because it is the same person that wrote both the stories, she just had a different pen name when she wrote the fan fiction.

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  58. Friday Reading: The ten most distracting words/phrases in Fifty Shades of Grey « The Metaphoric Life
    May 08, 2012 @ 12:27:52

    [...] who knew? Fifty Shades used to be a Twilight fanfic! Why didn’t anyone tell me this beforehand? I am outraged. [...]

  59. credoroza
    May 08, 2012 @ 20:29:41

    @AJ: When people say plagiarism, it is in reference to the derivative story line, characterizations, and personalities that are owned by SM.

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  60. credoroza
    May 09, 2012 @ 21:19:18

    50 gets the boot > http://news.yahoo.com/fifty-shades-too-steamy-library-shelves-192450373.html

    Backlash…it was bound to happen. After the initial shooting star hoopla, people are actually taking a good look at it and the backlash is upon us.

    It still astounds me that such a poorly written and edited book reached the level of “success” that it did. As well as creating a huge fracture in the fandom from which it came from.

    It saddens me that there are 1000′s of fantastic stories out there, original stories from new writers that never even come close to the level of notoriety that this “author” achieved. :(

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  61. Fifty Shades of Grey's E.L. James Turned Her Back on Twilight Fandom
    May 11, 2012 @ 11:40:12

    [...] interview that MotU and Fifty Shades of Grey were two substantially different pieces of writing, Dear Author pulled up a cached copy of the fic and ran it alongside Fifty Shades through multiple programs. It’s not just that the two [...]

  62. 50 Shades of Domestic Violence « Coffee & Prozac
    May 11, 2012 @ 12:05:40

    [...] suddenly was!   But then we come to 50 Shades.  A story that is not about vampires even though it was written about Twilight characters.  A story that women all over the world are eating up and saying how bad they want a man like [...]

  63. Jackie
    May 12, 2012 @ 09:26:23

    http://crushable.com/entertainment/el-james-snowqueens-icedragon-fifty-shades-of-grey-twilight-fandom-wank-860/ this shows you how much of this is Bullshit and she should be ASHAMED! I hope someone picks up on it and knocks her off that pedestal she has put her self on..

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  64. credoroza
    May 12, 2012 @ 10:32:39

    @Jackie:
    Best article I’ve read yet!

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  65. LucidDreamer
    May 14, 2012 @ 11:50:16

    @mozzer0906:

    Yes, need a LIKE button for this and RRKovar’s posts. They touch the heart of the problem.
    I wrote a fanfic that lots of people liked, but I did it for fun and as a homage to the original. I would NEVER seek to make money off of that piece because I was using someone else’s created “world” and characters. I could make references to that world and the readers would get the allusions — but I had not created that world, so I would never consider it “mine.”
    I have written original fiction. That is a totally different experience. I would be extremely ticked off if someone took characters, themes, concepts, etc. that I had created and changed them just enough to be legal. That isn’t really the point. James used fans’ love for Twilight (and I don’t like Twilight, but still, it is its own work, although it uses common tropes). She used it as a “hook” to get noticed, which — believe me — is hard to do in the publishing world today. So once she had enough of a fan following herself she then changes up a fanfic and publishes it. Smart marketing? Yes. Illegal? Probably not. Unethical? Hell, yes.

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  66. Why I Won’t Be Buying “50 Shades of Grey” « twilightdecal
    May 14, 2012 @ 21:23:55

    [...] Let it be known however, that not even Icy thinks the work is a masterpiece, and for the most part 50 Shades and MotU are practically the same book though she has denied any links between the two and the fandom in general (yet later admitted [...]

  67. Adrienne Khoeun
    May 16, 2012 @ 01:13:43

    @Karen Scott: Totaly off subject…..but I was wondering if you are the same Karen Scott, Mary Kay rep, that lived in Jacksonville Al?

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  68. Thoughts on ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’ | I Could Be Arguing In My Spare Time
    May 20, 2012 @ 14:43:46

    [...] A Master of the Universe/Fifty Shades of Grey Comparison [...]

  69. Erotic Novel '50 Shades Of Grey,' Fan Fiction And Copyright — paidContent
    May 21, 2012 @ 11:32:56

    [...] Jane Litte, who runs the popular romance blog “Dear Author,” compares 50 Shades of Grey to Master of the Universe using a variety of Internet tools, and finds that the [...]

  70. Fifty Shades Of Why
    May 22, 2012 @ 05:25:48

    [...] E.L James and her publisher claiming the stories are quite different, DearAuthor.com has run an interesting study which pretty much proves they’re [...]

  71. Jackie
    May 22, 2012 @ 19:27:12

    Found this and THANK YOU DR. DREW!!! http://wtop.com/?nid=267&sid=2874733

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  72. Casey
    May 24, 2012 @ 21:37:43

    @Karen Scott: Thing is, it isn’t.

    It’s what we fanfictions writers would call an AU story– alternate universe. The characters from the original fandom (in this case, likely Twilight) are used but no other aspects, and often their personalities differ significantly regardless. An argument can even be made in some cases that works are published as AU fanfictions to get readers from one fanbase to like a story they otherwise would, but wouldn’t have sought out otherwise. I’ve personally read both the Twilight series and Fifty Shades series and, honestly, I don’t see the resemblance. Yes, there are some plot devices that are shared between the works, but that’s the case with all fiction. There will always be similarities- but just because there are similarities doesn’t mean that two works are one in the same.

    All else aside, E. L. James wrote both works, so this really shouldn’t be a big problem.

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  73. Lucy
    May 25, 2012 @ 05:43:38

    @Cory: The author and her publishing company have gone to great lengths to make sur no-one can read the original. Trust me. Thankfully I save a PDF. of “master of the universe” in it’s entirety. so aha E.L. James or whatever your real name is.

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  74. Else
    May 29, 2012 @ 10:08:07

    @Lucy: @Lucy: Yeah me too, its on my external HD LOL, it was funny, I am in the middle of a series of books and was going to pick up 50 Shades but before I did, I wanted to read a few into chapters. Crap, it was the same Fic I read on fanfiction.net AND had a copy of. Hilarious.

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  75. Starters, Perfect Blood, Black Hearts, & Grey Areas | Maree Anderson | Author
    May 30, 2012 @ 00:58:07

    [...] Unless you’ve just transported in from another planet, you’re probably aware of at least some of the controversy surrounding this book and the subsequent two books in the series. Briefly, Fifty Shades of Grey started out as Master Of The Universe (MOTU),  a piece of Twilight fan-fic. The two main characters were originally of course — as you’d expect from fan-fic — named Edward Cullen and Bella Swan throughout.  The series was then published by The Writer’s Coffee shop, who specialize in selling fan-fiction. And after selling something like 250,000 copies, it was picked up by Vintage, a literary imprint of Random House. (You can find excellent posts on the journey MOTU has undergone thus far at Dear Author: Fifty Shades of Grey Primer, and, Master Of The Universe vs Fifty Shades Comparison.) [...]

  76. "Shades of Grey" - Christian Forums
    May 30, 2012 @ 08:07:47

    [...] just to warn you. However, the chat logs are very condemning. You also might be interested in Dear Author and Absolute Write where there is a discussion regarding James and how she used the Twilight [...]

  77. Dan D.
    May 30, 2012 @ 15:51:11

    @Keziah Hill: Plagiarism of who? The author wrote both the fan fic and the published novel. No one is claiming anything differently. When the author wrote the fan fic, it was an original work that is based on someone else’s characters. It was inspired by someone else’s works. But I haven’t seen anything which claims that the actual words and the actual events weren’t created by the author. There may very well have been a legitimate copy right infringement claim had the books been published using the Twilight names. But once the names have changed, where is the plagiarism? Had the original fan fics never been published on the ‘Net, would anyone have ever known that 50 Shades was inspired by Twilight? Meyer’s specifically talks about how she drew on classic literature for inspiration in the Twilight novels. Is she a plagiarist too? (And no, it doesn’t matter that those works are out of copyright. That just means she can’t be sued for copyright infringement, not that she can’t plagiarize the works if she claims them as her own.) So 50 Shades was inspired by Twilight? So what? Books inspire other books all the time. I haven’t seen anything which suggest any actual plagiarism.

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  78. Best Summer Reads | KC You There
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 10:02:20

    [...] laughable dialogue..where does it end? If you hated Twilight, don’t bother picking this up (This article is an interesting read, that states 50 Shades series is based on fan fiction of the Twilight [...]

  79. Fifty Shades of Thesaurus Bashing | Taboo… with a twist!
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 15:28:06

    [...] to change characters’ names makes me pretty nervous [find this very interesting study at DearAuthor.com]. The biggest reservation I have is that I’ve heard the story portrays a normal expression of [...]

  80. Fifty Shades of FanFic | Magstheaxe's Blog
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 19:25:02

    [...] This is an interesting twist, and has serious implications for the world of fanfic.  While I’m sure Stephenie Meyers has no legal standing–as well as no desire–to pursue legal action, one wonders how that legal landscape might change if the publishing world decides to go after more re-purposed fanfic erotica. Especially if publishers claim that the works are wholly original fiction, as Vintage Books, James’s publisher, is claiming. [...]

  81. Annie
    Jun 04, 2012 @ 17:34:56

    I really don’t think people understand what some fanfictions are like. Yes some take the same plot as the book and just put a slight twist on it. But most don’t. Most use just simply the characters names and features and that is it. I, a long time fanfiction reader and lover, know this because I will only read twilight fanfictions when the plot is completely original, but I love the characters so that is why fanficion is great. But when people think that this isn’t original work, you’re crazy. It’s like saying just because Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe are working on a brand new movie together, it must be just like Harry Potter. That simply is not true. It is completely original work with no reflection to the books Twilight in any way, but the original Master of the Universe, which I was lucky enough to read as a fanfiction, just has the characters names and features. Doesn’t mean that there has been any copyright infringement or plot stealing going on. Come on people, use your brains.

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  82. 50 Shades of Grey Mysteriously Disappears from fanfiction.net (Only Not Really) « Tea Leaves and Dog Ears
    Jun 06, 2012 @ 16:47:17

    [...] point was countered by romance-focused site Dear Author, which compared the two works side by side. In one test, using the plagiarism-checker TurnItIn, the [...]

  83. mary
    Jun 10, 2012 @ 09:49:08

    LET ME START BY SAYING I HAVE NOT READ A GOOD BOOK IN YEARS,I’VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT FSG THAT I HAD TO GO AND BUY IT,THE READING WAS SO GOOD TO ME THAT I TOLD EVERYONE ABOUT THE BOOK,WENT TO BOOK STORE AND PICK UP THE OTHER TWO BOOKS,WHAT MRS JAMES HAVE DONE WITH THIS TRILOGY OF BOOKS IS MAKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STOP READING BOOKS GO AND BUY THEM AND SIT DOWN WITH FRIENDS AND TALK ABOUT THE BOOKS,THIS IS A GOOD THING,NOT TO MENTION SHE HAS SINGLE HANDLEY WOKE UP A LOT COUPLES LOVE LIVES SO I SAY YOU GO ,ITS A PLEASURE TO GET AWAY FROM THE REAL WORLD FOR A FEW HOURS,OH AND GETTING PAYED OH YES SHE SHOULD AND HAVE FUN SPENDING THE MONEY,I WISH HER ALL BEST AND YES I HAVE READ ALL 3 BOOKS FOUR TIMES LOVE THEM AND BOUGHT COPIES FOR AMY SISTERS NOW THEY ARE FANS ,I SAY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…BAPS FR PHILLY

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  84. credoroza
    Jun 10, 2012 @ 11:14:05

    Your comment that you haven’t read a good book in years is upsetting to me. You should join Goodreads. You would be amazed over the reviews that are posted and will have a TBR listing in no time filled with wonderful books. Including books with weak story lines, characterizations, and smut. There are 1000′s posted that are much more entertaining than FSOG that you will enjoy.

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  85. vir
    Jun 11, 2012 @ 00:34:58

    im kinda a twilight fan (i know it’s guilty pleasure for me basically) and i used to read a lot of fanfiction. personally i think anastasia and christian are like other versions of edward and bella. not exactly the same but if you read twilight you will notice the similarities: edward/christian being domineering, bella/ana blushing and being dazzled and lots of reptitions of how hot he is, details like bella sleeping in her dreams, “holy cow”, the fact she’s shy and awkward and not interested in fashion, when ana says “open the damn door christian” after he says something kinda long, totally reminded of when bella says “show me the damn ring, edward” in eclipse. all these little connections to twilight. thats why i couldnt separate the book from the fanfic i read it feeling it was edward/bella alternate universe fic. if you didn’t know it was twi fic, you might definitely enjoy it. but honestly i didnt, not really. i read it feeling forced to. to me it was boring, long-winded and pretty shallow. there were certain aspects i enjoyed but idg all the hype (unless its just because it was a fanfic). if anyone is interested in reading twi fic (i doubt it but if someone liked this book they might) in my favorites i have a lot http://www.fanfiction.net/~miwalicious

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  86. vir
    Jun 11, 2012 @ 00:36:54

    ohh and i really want 2 recommend this book: the blue castle. it’s beautiful. it’s like a romance novel, coming of age story and kinda a social commentary all rolled into one and beautifully mixed. it’s really old but it’s worth it!

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  87. gaga
    Jun 11, 2012 @ 17:21:19

    @mary: Dear Mary, I’m sorry that this is the Book you needed to read and think it’s a good Book. Why don’t you try ” The Bronzed Horseman” or “The Parfum ” These are actual good Books not some poorly written Porn. If you like erotic Stories now , after you found your way back into the circle of Readers you may have a look at the Beauty Series from Anne Rice. Fifty is OK if you need a naughty, filthy cheap Thrill with your lover or your Girlfriends. It’s a disturbing Book and I’m sure when you finished orgasm, you’ll see that that character is an obsessive Stalker and the little girl some doormat

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  88. Meghan
    Jun 14, 2012 @ 23:35:54

    I just have to say, even if 50 shades and MOTU are 89% the same, you need to step back and think about the fact, that, while MOTU was a Twilight fanfiction story, other than the characters names, and a few other SMALL things, MOTU was not Twilight. So to take what she had written as a fan fiction story and change some names, it could very well be, and IS, it’s own book with it’s own story. If you weren’t aware that the story was originally published as a fan fiction story, you would never compare 50 Shades to Twilight.

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  89. Elaine Bateman
    Jun 16, 2012 @ 07:29:38

    I don’t understand why people are calling this plagiarism. The author was inspired by Meyer’s characters and wrote an original piece of work based on them. Then the names were altered and it bears no resemblance to Twilight at all. I wonder how many books have been inspired by the relationship between Bennet and Darcy or Heathcliff and Catherine.

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  90. Jodi
    Jun 18, 2012 @ 23:06:49

    It’s not original. It was fanfic, the purpose of a fanfic is that you area a fan of the original work. The characters are copyrighted, she just changed the name. Because Meyer has yet to do anything about it, more have been following her lead

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  91. virginia
    Jun 19, 2012 @ 09:59:45

    @Elaine Bateman: you dont know if we would have compared it to twilight or not, lol. i might because i noticed the similarities right away.and if it wasnt twilight fanfiction, would it be this big? i dont think so

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  92. freethehens
    Jun 19, 2012 @ 14:34:39

    I came here because I just read a few chapters of MOTU last night and was wondering just how they managed to change it so radically in order to remove the OBVIOUS similarities to Twilight. It is just like reading Twilight in ways far beyond names and characteristics, so I assumed that the Fifty books were completely different. Apparently not! If Stephenie Meyer isn’t getting a huge cut, she needs to change that.

    I can’t believe anyone would claim it is nothing like Twilight. Crazy.

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  93. Review: Fifty Shades of Grey by E.L. James | Dionne Galace
    Jun 19, 2012 @ 14:47:47

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  94. Stephanie
    Jun 19, 2012 @ 16:34:10

    @Karen Scott:
    I think what you are misunderstanding is that the author of MoTU and Fifty Shades is the same person. She wrote both. While MoTU was an original fanfic in reference to Stephanie Myers Twilight (where she gave credit to Mrs Myers for the character names and descriptions), for Fifty Shades, she edited it for new characters as her own work.

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  95. Karen Scott
    Jun 19, 2012 @ 17:32:22

    @Stephanie Yeah, I kinda figured that one out all by myself.

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  96. Brenna
    Jun 25, 2012 @ 21:20:49

    I usually stick to reading bandom fics, but I think that rewriting fanfics and publishing them are okay if you do it well. My creative writing teacher back in high school once told us that every author plagiarizes because there is no such thing as a new idea. The key is to put in enough of your own plot line, character development, and voice that it becomes your own piece. Obviously, by the consistency the fanfic had with Fifty Shades, this wasn’t done too well. There should have been a bit more originality of characters, the same way when you write an original story, you don’t make one of the characters a Mary Sue (which I believe Meyer got away with on her creation of Bella, anyway, so people aren’t always picky). I believe that Erika was incorrect when she claimed the fanfic and the published novel weren’t similar, but with an AU, that isn’t much of a problem when it comes to plot line.
    I believe that publishing a work that was originally a fanfic is okay, if the author turns it into their own work. I’ve been more willing to read some books knowing that they were originally based on something else, and it’s fun to see if I can still pick out some of the telltale signs of who the original characters were.

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  97. melissa Ivory
    Jul 03, 2012 @ 13:47:07

    @KT Grant: on the books you’ve read, are there any signs that these started as Twilight fan fiction? it is that which makes a difference, and is the reason why people are so bothered by the 50 Shades Trilogy, because it wasn’t very changed from its origin, even if that was an Alternate Universe.

    i have read a book that started as fan fiction, fandom i don’t remember, that was so different from its origin that the only similarity was the overall plot, but how it happened was completely different because the characters were changed, and that made me appreciate the book and author more.

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  98. Cosmaa
    Jul 04, 2012 @ 17:37:36

    So Fifty Shades of Grey started as a fanfiction based on the Twilight Series. Have you actually read the twilight books and the fifty shades of grey series? Did you find vampires or werewolves or any other bloodthirsty monsters within the fifty series? I don’t see any similarities. The author used the inspiration she received by reading twilight to create a complete new story. I’m very sure, even Stephenie Meyers sees it this way, or else she would have stopped the fifty series long ago. So what is all the fuss about the fanfiction. you are seriously analyzing the book and the fanfic? What are you going to prove? That E L James deceives her readers?
    To take characters or ideas from existing art to create something new is as old as art itself. As long as she isn’t just copying the original, it is a perfectly legitimated way to produce something new und extraordinary – as happend in this book and with this story. I’m getting tired to read all those articles trying to prove – what? – plagiatism? For me it seems a clear case of the sour grapes in the neighborhood – one author hit the jackpot with a phenomenal idea and a lot of others are very simply just jealous. Well guys, I suggest you should be good losers and not begrudge Ms. James her success…
    Greetings from Germany!

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  99. melissa Ivory
    Jul 05, 2012 @ 22:08:51

    @Cosmaa: you are completely missing the point of this comparison and probably all other reviews.

    the fan fiction Master of the Universe was an Alternate Universe to the Twilight Saga, and as such, the issue is more that she couldn’t change more than she did to make this ‘original’ fiction, while the publishing house continues to claim it is completely original when there is this to prove difference. yes, there are many Alternate Universes people have made, in all kinds of formats, that people make money off, and we’re okay with that, but to allow someone to do this and claim the same is mocking those who try to change enough, or combine many different elements of many different fandoms or story-telling elements, to create something as original as one can get.

    i don’t see how people are jealous about the success because it would make sense if these issues were addressed before publication. it is the lack of editing, which would have caused the final product to be much less like the fan fiction it once was, that is the real and honest problem here. i would congratulate Mrs James’ success were it not that i found myself editing the book as i read it. one or two errors are normal, but there were so many in the first chapter that shouldn’t have been there if it was edited properly.

    last comment i can make is that if you are tired of reading these reviews, STOP READING THEM, YOU FUCKWIT! YOU’RE AS BAD AS ANA NOT USING HER SAFEWORDS AT THE END OF THE FIRST BOOK!

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  100. Cosmaa
    Jul 06, 2012 @ 07:35:47

    Fuckwit? Wow, that’s original… seems I hit the mark with the “sour grapes”… or maybe I’m still missing the point;).

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  101. melissa Ivory
    Jul 06, 2012 @ 14:21:21

    @Cosmaa: that comment wasn’t ‘sour grapes’, it was annoyance at your apparent lack of common sense. if you had any, you’d know you don’t have to read these reviews if you liked the books and don’t like that they are negative for what you view as blind ignorance and/or jealousy, but you continue to do so, and it’s people who either haven’t read it or didn’t like it or on the fence in their opinion that these reviews are made for, not someone who knows how they feel and are secure in it. personally, i don’t care if you liked them, but i do care when someone like you comes along and stupidly blasts others’ opinions and reviews when you never had to read them. i know you chose to, but if you didn’t like the negative ones, you should have avoided them, not sought them out.

    i don’t have to try and be original to insult idiots when i find them, but i think comparing you to Ana at the end of the first book was rather witty of me, and i bet there are others who will feel the same. it is that reference that shows you have a choice that you aren’t taking advantage of, and people will judge you when you choose to ignore that, especially if you then complain about it. if that doesn’t make sense to you, then this is a lost cause and i’ll wipe my hands of it, as it won’t be worth the fight.

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  102. credoroza
    Jul 06, 2012 @ 18:03:13

    Melissa – Here’s an article for you > http://jamigold.com/2012/05/an-author%E2%80%99s-guide-to-fan-fiction/ It is just plain unethical. Simple as that.

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  103. melissa Ivory
    Jul 07, 2012 @ 02:35:41

    @credoroza: i have read that article, but as i said, people have been making money off of what constitutes as fan fiction for quite some time, in one way or another, and while some of those instances are why the laws are, at least in the US, the way are now doesn’t change that people are going to continue to try and do it.

    i don’t know what you are referring to as being plain and simply unethical, but if it is about people who create a plot for an Alternate Universe fan fiction and end up making their own characters for it to make a profit, then there really isn’t a problem.

    i’m not trying to sound harsh, but i truly don’t mean to.

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  104. Jami Gold
    Jul 07, 2012 @ 11:05:42

    @melissa Ivory: I think the difference in opinion comes from what constitutes “making their own characters.”

    If a fanfic author bases their characters on a single source and writes those characters to evoke the original, then those characters are not “their own” no matter how many superficial details they’ve changed in the context of the Alternate Universe. Some non-writers don’t see that distinction because they’ve never experienced the difference between creating a character from scratch and “adapting” an existing character to make it fit in their story. Their lack of knowledge into what goes into making a truly unique character does not make the ethical issues go away.

    Authors of original fiction take inspiration from countless sources, blend them into something new and different, and add their special twist. They give the character roots and sit back as he/she/it grows beyond their imaginings to fill the spaces of the story. The characters will, in fact, direct the direction of the story with their growth pattern in ways the author never expected.

    Fanfic authors take inspiration from a single source–where the character already exists in its fully grown form–and prune its shape to superficially change its appearance and make it fit into the story they want to tell.

    One is from the ground up and one hangs out at the top. Opposite approaches and very different to those to understand. This is why original fiction authors who also write fanfic say they never run into an issue with keeping their fanfic and original fiction separate (see DA’s Author Roundtable post: http://dearauthor.com/features/essays/fan-fiction-author-roundtable-cyndy-aleo-tamara-allen-jane-davitt-jami-gold/).

    So when some readers claim the FSoG characters are unique, real authors want to tear their hair out. That fact couldn’t be more inaccurate.

    Every lip biting, similar phrasing, stalker behavior similarity between Edward/Christian and Bella/Ana is not mere coincidence of using common tropes. No, those were all placed there *on purpose* because James was *trying* to evoke the original characters in her story. She copied them from a single source and changed superficial details. The characters are not hers.

    On the other hand, if a fanfic author loves a story they wrote and doesn’t want to “waste” the idea on something they can’t publish, they have options that don’t involve pulling their fanfic to publish work that infringes upon the copyright of the original author’s characters. They *can* do something with the story idea. That’s called the premise. They can keep the premise and come up with new characters from scratch–which would then change the plot beats, as the new characters would make different choices. Voila! New and completely unique story that doesn’t have fanfic roots.

    Ideas are a dime a dozen. I can come up with 12 story ideas before breakfast. :) It’s the implementation that matters, and fanfic implements the story idea by copying characters that don’t belong to them, and that’s where the ethical line falls. (I posted more about what makes a character unique here: http://jamigold.com/2012/03/what-makes-a-character-unique/)

    I hope that helps explain the disconnect. :)

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  105. melissa Ivory
    Jul 08, 2012 @ 04:20:28

    @Jami Gold: i understand all of that, and although my point was not understood, as i probably could have said that better, i only meant that it was a harsh assessment, but not inaccurate. in fact, there are authors who have profited from Alternate Universes using others characters, but, as you pointed out, it is the characters themselves that truly set the AU apart from the original. to call the whole book plain and simply unethical is overshadowing the premise of this series, which has always been independent of the original fandom.

    in other place online i have, though not as eloquently as you, mentioned all these same facts, and as it was never the issue i was addressing in my other comments, i never saw a need to bring it up.

    thank you for pointing all this out for others in a very concise and clear manner.

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  106. Jami Gold
    Jul 08, 2012 @ 11:27:26

    @melissa Ivory: Ah, I think I understand what you’re saying: That some people are calling the premise of the story itself unethical?

    I would agree with you in that premises are recycled all the time. Even with a detailed story idea like:

    “A convict escapes from jail and gets his revenge on the gang leader who put him there, leading a revolt in the process.”

    Some would call that too detailed to recycle. We have a premise, basic character sketch, and specific situation. But in one story with that premise, the convict might be an anti-hero, and another might have been framed and innocent.

    The way they pursue revenge will be different, the nature of the revolt will be different, and the goals, motivations, and forward movement of the plot will be different. Along the way, the emotional heart and themes explored in each story will be different.

    Two stories. Same story idea. Two unique implementations. That’s why ideas aren’t copyrightable. Everything comes down to the implementation.

    So I’d agree with you that recycling a story premise isn’t unethical, but it would require new, unique characters from scratch. :)

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  107. melissa Ivory
    Jul 08, 2012 @ 16:44:22

    @Jami Gold: that is exactly what i’ve been trying to say, but as i mentioned, i’m not very good at getting my point across sometimes. hopefully people will start to see that although the characters are the problem, the premise is unique and shouldn’t be bundled with the real issues.

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  112. Danielle
    Jul 16, 2012 @ 12:23:06

    I’m reading Master of the Universe now and almost finish. I’m thinking about getting the rest of the 50 shades to complete the story. My question is, should I or which books picks up where Masters of U finishes?

    Thanks :).

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  113. Anne
    Jul 16, 2012 @ 12:47:43

    I think that one of the major points here should now be what next for Icy aka James? Apparently her next book is to be a re-iteration of 50 Shades but written from Christian’s POV, which unfortunately more or less proves to me that James has no other book in her. She never had a book in her to start with which is why she wrote a fanfiction and then just changed the names to make money out of it. She owes her success to Stephenie Meyer’s original premise and the characters which have not been altered or developed from the original Bella and Edward at all.

    I think that, apart from the appalling errors in this unedited work, the worst things are a lack of adequate research into the BDSM community, which has resulted in people who are not au fait with that lifestyle assuming that someone who does indulge just has to be damaged somehow. This is completely untrue. For most in the community this is a lifestyle of choice. Few of them have been damaged by childhood abuse, they do it because they want to. It paints the wrong picture completely.

    I believe that it makes a mockery of all the hard work the rest of the published authors do when they write a book. Someone stated earlier in the comments that writing a book is a lonely task, and it is. My book was five years in research and two years in the writing. I wanted the premise and the plot to be as original as they could be; I wanted my characters to be rounded and well fleshed. Above all I wanted them to be believable and I worked hard at that. Each one came from my own imagination. My book is published now and I am halfway through the sequel, but the book exists solely due to me, NOT somebody else’s premise, characters and ideas. No, you can’t plagiarise yourself, but by writing MOTU or any fanfiction a writer is, in fact, plagiarising that original published author. That’s always been a huge taboo in fanfiction, that and making money off it, both of which James is guilty of. Whether or not she gets called on that by Meyer is still out for judgement. I suspect Meyer is distancing herself from the whole debacle and I can’t find it in myself to blame her for that. It’s a can of worms that has opened up.

    James and Vintage House have been too vociferous in their attempts to defend the book. Truly if it didn’t need defending and all is innocent, then why even bother to comment on it? A graceful silence would have served them a lot better.

    And I DO write fanfiction as well. Writing for the Tolkien fanfiction community has helped me hone my craft as a writer. I would not have managed to write my book had it not been for the encouragement I got from that community. My book has nothing to do with my fanfiction, they are entirely separate.

    So, Icy is making her massive wealth at £1 million per week on book sales, let’s just see what happens if she does produce a further book from Christian/Edward’s POV. SM also started a version of Twilight from Edward’s POV and that seems to have died a death. Personally I wonder at Vintage encouraging the idea, since it will only be a word for word repeat of the trilogy only with the male character in the first person.

    I don’t think James has an original work inside that rich little head of hers. 50 Shades is a storm in a teacup, once the dust has settled people will forget about it. James wiill no doubt settle down and enjoy her millions in the bank and not care a hoot about ethics, plagiarism or the damage she has done to other authors and the literary world. She once stated that she wanted to revolutionise the publishing industry, well she’s done that. Now every tom Dic and Harry publishing house is looking for a former fanfiction turned into Mommy Porn to make them millions and in the meantime damn good authors who have written damn good books are being left by the wayside.

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  114. melissa Ivory
    Jul 16, 2012 @ 16:50:53

    @Danielle: the fan fiction Master of the Universe was barely changed before being retitled the Fifty Gray Trilogy. if you’ve read the fan fiction, you really have no need to read the books, because all she did was change the names, or did you not read any of the review and comments?

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  115. Jami Gold
    Jul 16, 2012 @ 17:05:08

    @melissa Ivory: @Danielle is probably referring to the fact that she found MotU Part 1 (which I believe covers Fifty Shades of Gray and part of Fifty Shades Darker), but that she hasn’t found MotU Part 2 (which I believe is the rest of Fifty Shades Darker and Fifty Shades Freed).

    (Someone please correct me if I’m wrong about what the two parts covered–I haven’t read any of them. :) )

    I believe the Part 1 is easier to find online than Part 2, so people don’t realize there was a Part 2 to the fanfic version as well that covered the rest of the FSoG series.

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  116. melissa Ivory
    Jul 16, 2012 @ 17:39:17

    @Jami Gold: it is true that the fan fiction was released in two parts originally, but the only remaining copies i’ve found online have both, so i assumed this person had the same. if that isn’t the case, i’d be glad to help Danielle: find a copy with the other half.

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  117. Anne
    Jul 17, 2012 @ 04:13:20

    What I remember from the time that James pulled the fanfic to publish, there was an outcry because the fic wasn’t actually finished. James had apparently told all of her loyal Twilight fans ‘if they wanted to read the rest of it, they would have to buy the published version’. This was the action of hers that started off the hulabaloo, the fact that she had built up this fanbase who all flocked to her blog to read the story for free because it was a fanfic and then crapped all over them by telling them that if they wanted to know the end they would have to pay. All over Twilight forums and fic sites people were outraged, mainly because they had loyally given the fic massive reviews. Now I am not sure whether Part 2 MOTU was ever published anywhere. I can ask around the various Twilight fans in the writer’s groups to see if anyone actually read the last part as a fanfiction or whether it was just published via the Twilight Coffee Shop.

    I think the fans felt violated by her action, but I am sure that the moneygrubbers would defend her and say why shouldn’t she make money out of it. The Bunker Babes of course would have made up for any shortfall in the reviews on Amazon and there were still plenty of readers of the fanfiction who actually bought the books.

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  118. melissa Ivory
    Jul 17, 2012 @ 14:09:46

    @Anne: well damnit, that makes all this worse now. i didn’t know about this, and the article i found talking about how much she spat on the fandom, her own fans, and the fan fiction community in general is lacking this information, but knowing this, i’m just stunned. thank you for telling me.

    @Danielle: if you really want to get the Fifty Shades Trilogy, there are ways you can do so for free, and why is simply because Ms James doesn’t deserve your money for all the shite she’s done. if you want help finding the free copies in various formats, i am willing to help.

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  119. Fifty Shades of Debate: from fan fiction to bestseller, sappy romance to BDSM
    Jul 17, 2012 @ 22:18:15

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  120. Amanda
    Jul 19, 2012 @ 13:45:42

    Her story is still HER STORY whether it was was based on fanfic or not. The plot is nothing like twilight. SO Ana is a clumsy brunette and Christian is a copper hair rich man… other than that, there are no vampires, this is not set in Forks, no werewolves, no supernaturals. It is a sex plot… nothing like twilight plot wise at all…. so it is an original story… Fanfiction stories can be VERY loosely based on something and end up being a very original idea. People are just mad that she got famous for her works. It is still her original ideas. People publish stories less original everyday… like blatant rip offs of harry potter, etc. Just let it go.

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  121. Amanda
    Jul 19, 2012 @ 13:48:05

    it’s not plagarism if she copied HER OWN STORY!

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  122. Anne
    Jul 19, 2012 @ 17:06:14

    @ Amanda… I find it very interesting that you are getting so angry. These are comments, left for a review, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even those who disagree with you. We do still have a form of free speech and we are merely exercising that right. ALL fan-fiction is a form of plagiarism and E L James aka Icy was a Twilight fan-fiction writer before she pulled to publish. Why are you trying to refute that? Especially given that there is plenty of hard evidence to support this fact. Nobody was actually saying that it was a Twilight plot, but the fact is that Master of the Universe was originally based on characters from Twilight, Bella and Edward, characters which are the intellectual and legal property of Stephenie Meyer, the author of Twilight. The original fan-fiction MOTU has not been altered at all in the current published version of 50 Shades, only the names have been altered from Bella to Anastasia and Edward to Christian. That has been checked. The two stories are at least 89% the same, the shortfall of 11% which would account for the name changes.

    There may well be people who are mad because she got famous, or should I say infamous? I personally am not one of them. I was already published long before James got her chance. It’s not the end result that is making people rather angry, it’s the fact that a nonsensical, badly written, badly edited book is being hailed as some sort of literary breakthrough which is revolutionising publishing, when in fact it isn’t. All James has done is pander to the original Twilight fans gasping desire for Bella and Edward to hit the sack and have badly written and badly researched BDSM sex. There are much better pieces of erotic literature around which are much more worth reading.

    As it is I actually don’t know why I am even bothering to explain anything to you, because it seems rather obvious that you might be one of the aforementioned Bunker Babes.

    Quite honestly, it’s not up to you to tell anyone to ‘let it go’. Why should any of us listen to you or do anything you tell us? Which again makes me wonder why you are getting so angry over this. It seems rather out of perspective.

    James doesn’t have an original idea in that head of hers. If she does, then the next book she produces should be interesting to say the least. (A reiteration of the whole 50 Shades from Christian’s POV I believe). In order to produce anything near original writing, you do have to have original ideas, NOT base a story using someone else’s characters and trust me, BDSM sex or sex in any form does NOT constitute an original idea. It’s been around since 1900 and frozen to death.

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  123. 50 Shades of Twilight | Your Paper Heart
    Jul 20, 2012 @ 14:39:26

    [...] But why would I compare 50 Shades, a legit published bestseller to fanfiction? Surely it’s not fair comparison. I disagree, simply because 50 Shades is based on fanfiction about—drumroll, please—the Twilight saga. EL James wrote a Twilight fic called Masters of the Universe, and eventually used that as a sort of template for 50 Shades. Check it yourself here. [...]

  124. Jax
    Jul 20, 2012 @ 19:41:45

    Anne, you’ve just made a very well-reasoned post, though I want to point out that BDSM was around quite a while before 1900. Marquis de Sade ring a bell? :)

    From a copyright point of view, all fanfictions are derivative works and by copyright law, the original copyright holder should get royalties or similar for the new work. Now, really, one could quite easily camouflage an AU fanfiction as an original story with a bit of work. In the case of 50 Shades though, she didn’t do nearly enough work. Find/replace doesn’t cut it, hon, hate to tell you.

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  125. melissa Ivory
    Jul 20, 2012 @ 19:46:44

    @Jax: valid points, but on copyright law, the rule of royalties only counts if the derivative work is sold and money is made. as most fan fiction does not sell, therefore the author is not making money, this doesn’t count for them. however, Mrs James is making money using someone else’s characters with different names in another reality, and i think that does count.

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  126. Anne
    Jul 21, 2012 @ 03:05:15

    @ Jax… Sorry hun, I should have qualified the statement ’1900 and frozen to death’. I often say these things without thinking. I was in the British Army for 11 years. ’1900 and frozen to death’ is a joking military term meaning since before time began! I do know that BDSM has been around for a while. :P

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  127. Sam
    Jul 22, 2012 @ 07:36:36

    @Amanda: Even if FF characters are completely OOC, detailed characterisation is almost unnecessary because readers can apply what they know from the canon characters to these new ones. If I grabbed a Twilight FF and changed the names, I’d have trouble reading it. I wouldn’t care about the characters at all. Twilight FF is good because people get more of the characters they love, even if they’re in completely different forms, worlds and/or situations. I could argue that ALL FF Edwards and Bellas are the same in at least one way. There are repetitive ‘themes’ to their personalities no matter how different they may seem on the surface. So…even though MOTU is nothing like Twilight, there are definitely some copyright issues because of the personalities/backstories readers place onto James’ characters from Stephenie’s. MOTU would not have been what it was without Stephenie’s characters. I don’t know if I’ve explained this all properly but…anyway.

    @Anne: I’m not a fan of James. Not only does she act ashamed of the Twilight FF community, she gives other FF writers a bad name. I could write up a whole list of FF authors who write better than she does, with more complex characters and stories. They deserve to be published and well known. I’ve read some that are right alongside my favourite novels! I have no issue with BDSM but I think James handled it poorly in her story, and I’ve seen other FF authors do it so much better. So yes, many people have read 50SOG, hated it, and then made negative assumptions about the FF and BDSM community. It’s ridiculous and unfair.

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  128. Book Review #3 – Fifty Shades of Grey. « rouxsreviews
    Jul 22, 2012 @ 08:35:20

    [...] characters and ideas she borrowed from Stephanie Meyer were not identical.  You can read a report here on how Fifty Shades compares to Master of the Universe (the fanfiction she originally [...]

  129. RK
    Jul 25, 2012 @ 23:30:26

    I’m confused- how is it not an original work again?
    It may be fanfiction, which is based off another person’s work, but she still wrote it. It’s not as if she took /another/ fanfiction writer’s work and claimed it her own- which does occur in fanfiction communities, but did not in this case. On top of that, it’s AU, so she’s already taken it our of it’s original universe- and from what I can tell, she didn’t do the characters much justice (not that they could be done any, as they were one dimensional to begin with), so it may as well have been a completely unrelated work.
    I fail to see an ethical issue with this. It isn’t stealing if she created it. She was inspired by someone else’s work, and wrote a piece of fiction in her own setting with characters that originally had the same names, but were not by any means the same people.
    I still think the entire work reads like a terrible lemon, but I don’t think what she did was wrong. Nor do I think we should go up in arms about it. I know authors on FF’s sister site, Fiction Press, take stuff down to get it professionally published all the time. We aren’t crucifying them.

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  130. Fanfiction: A Proper Art Form - The Star Wars Report
    Jul 27, 2012 @ 11:45:25

    [...] be okay, and not copyright infringement, but dearauthor.com (whom I’ve just quoted above) states otherwise. They ran both Fifty Shades Of Grey and Master Of The Universe through three different comparison [...]

  131. 50 Shades of Darker « Fifty Shades Of Darker
    Jul 31, 2012 @ 07:18:22

    [...] http://dearauthor.com/features/industry-news/master-of-the-universe-versus-fifty-shades-by-e-l-james… Share this:CondivisioneEmailStampaShare on TumblrLike this:Mi piaceBe the first to like this. [...]

  132. sharon
    Aug 02, 2012 @ 22:21:32

    A few of us have formed a book club and Fifty Shades was the book of choice. I have just finished reading it and somehow I know I have read this book before. Was it called MOTU? I’m not sure, but I know I have read it. It is not something you would easily forget!

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  133. There WAS quality erotica before 50 Shades « Last Night's Parties and Last Night's Horrorshow
    Aug 02, 2012 @ 22:48:17

    [...] DearAuthor.com Jane Litte ran Fifty Shades of Grey and Master of the Universe through three comparison engines. Turnitin found a similarity index of 89% between the two works. There are large pieces of text [...]

  134. Jane
    Aug 02, 2012 @ 23:04:04

    Yes, Sharon, it was called MOTU for short.

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  135. Ana
    Aug 08, 2012 @ 07:01:07

    [...] poor writing and ethically questionable publishing practices (a thorough analysis on the “Dear Jane” website asserts pretty persuasively that 50 Shades is just a reworked [...]

  136. Andrea
    Aug 10, 2012 @ 14:55:26

    i found the book on goodreads after finishing the merry gentry series and still in need for something kinky. i already heard about this book, so i thought it might be good. the beginning was actually quite okay, even though i don’t like characters like ana steel. so i kept reading, until i got to the port angeles scene. i’m not sure if that’s in twilight movie or book, but there is a conversation between bella and edward that goes something like her saying she dazzles everyone, he asks he if he does her and she says yes. anna steel used a different word instead of dazzle, but there it was. at that time, i had no idea this started out as a fanfic. as i read on, i started noticing more similarities to edward and christian, anna and bella, jose and jake, anna’s mom with her extra curricular and new husband, and bella’s mom. seriously? and i would’ve taken all that, if it wasn’t for that spanking scene. if that wasn’t humiliating, i don’t know what was. it’s maybe my fault because i’m such a feminist, but how can someone write that? it’s sick! i thought setephenie meyer set the feminist movement decades back by making bella so domestic and obedient, literally addicted to a man. bella’s a goddamn suffragette compared to ana steel. ana steel is just plain sick. i don’t know what’s worse – the fact that christian does what he does, or that ana is so happy to please him even if she has to suffer. but hey, it’s all for love of a man whom she’s known for two weeks. yeah, totally justified.

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  137. melissa Ivory
    Aug 10, 2012 @ 15:20:07

    @Andrea: S. Meyer’s books were littered with Mormon propaganda, including making Bella so readily submissive to her partner’s wants and completely ignorant to his abusive behaviours. The only excuse EL James has is that she wanted desperately to make money off someone else’s creation because of the response she got for her fan fiction.
    I’m glad someone noticed this as well, because many of the people praising this trilogy have also read Twilight and cannot see it, but I have hope if even just one person can.

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  138. melissa Ivory
    Aug 10, 2012 @ 15:40:06

    @RK: People who take their own works off Fiction Press to be published completely created every element of their story themselves, not taking someone else’s creations and changing whatever pleases them, like you find solely on FF.Net. It is for this reason that James’ actions were unethical, because for those in the know or in the case of the rare others like myself, who could see the characterisations and other elements from the original source, it shows that this wasn’t an original piece of fiction whatsoever but a small bit of the premise, which is not enough to count for the author to claim complete originality. That is the point of this post, to show people the truth behind EL James’ unethical and underhanded practice in having her story published, which is really just her wanting to make money off someone’s creation because of the response to her fan fiction.

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  139. Robert Pattinson on
    Aug 15, 2012 @ 09:11:33

    [...] But from there, the conversation got more broad. Pattinson reiterated that he only does interviews like this one in order to promote his films, and added that he’s never gotten used to the paparazzi attention he garners: “I think if you start getting used to it, it means you’re going crazy.” The host then changed the subject to Cosmopolis, praising Pattinson’s performance as a “master of the universe.” (Stephanopoulos: Secret 50 Shades of Grey fanboy?) [...]

  140. Pattinson: ‘I’d like my fans to know… ‘
    Aug 15, 2012 @ 17:00:36

    [...] Pattinson reiterated that he only does interviews like this one in order to promote his films, and added that he’s never gotten used to the paparazzi attention he garners: “I think if you start getting used to it, it means you’re going crazy.” The host then changed the subject to Cosmopolis, praising Pattinson’s performance as a “master of the universe.” (Stephanopoulos: Secret 50 Shades of Grey fanboy?) [...]

  141. GlassTV – Robert Pattinson on ‘GMA’: ‘I’d like my fans to know… ‘
    Aug 15, 2012 @ 17:24:01

    [...] Pattinson reiterated that he only does interviews like this one in order to promote his films, and added that he’s never gotten used to the paparazzi attention he garners: “I think if you start getting used to it, it means you’re going crazy.” The host then changed the subject to Cosmopolis, praising Pattinson’s performance as a “master of the universe.” (Stephanopoulos: Secret 50 Shades of Grey fanboy?) [...]

  142. Christian Grey: Seven reasons why he’s as unarousing as a wet tent | Sugar Punch
    Aug 16, 2012 @ 06:52:38

    [...] Gekko… the villain of the 1987 film Wall Street. I guess the original title of 50 Shades, Master of the Universe, should have given that [...]

  143. Fifty Shades of Grey: Poster Child for Creative Collaboration
    Aug 17, 2012 @ 01:05:16

    [...] comparison, and read the best article I could find on the copying issue, read “Master of the Universe versus Fifty Shades by E.L James Comparison” by author Jane Little on her DearAuthor.com blog. It’s an eye-opening piece that in my [...]

  144. Esther
    Aug 18, 2012 @ 19:45:28

    Um, I never noticed this because I’ve never actually read Meyer’s books. However, this could be a coincidence but Stephenie Meyer is married to a guy named Christian Meyer. Perhaps no one would be surprised to hear that James called her protagonist Christian. Directly ripped off much?

    And yeah, it’s just a matter of time until someone sues or lawsuits.

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  145. Mastering the grey area « smokeandsilhouettes
    Aug 19, 2012 @ 20:33:15

    [...] Shortly after I reached this conclusion, I found a couple of articles that brought to attention the origins of Fifty Shades of Grey as a Twilight fan fiction, under the name Master of the Universe (MotU). The scary thing about the digital footprint is that it’s generally seen as inerasable. Despite being removed, people have been able to retrace MotU and run side by side comparisons between it and Fifty Shades to prove that most of the aspects changed prior to publication were name, location and eye colour related. If you’d like to have a look one such source, go here. [...]

  146. Julia
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 09:39:01

    Ok, it’s a fanfic. And?

    It’s still something she has invented by herself. Thinking that the characters aren’t neither simillar phsychollogically, it doesn’t really matter, I think.
    There are also other authors that started publishing their novels in blogs or in public websites, so I don’t know where the problem is. It would be annoying if there were some reference to Twilight, but there aren’t, so…

    The books are all great. It seems to me that E.L.James has done an accurate job.

    Thanks for the article, it has been very helpful :)

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  147. melissa Ivory
    Aug 20, 2012 @ 15:37:20

    @Julia: The point that this article is making is that she didn’t really create much of her story on her own, she utilised things, including characters, from someone else. The most important part of a story is the plot and the characters, and both of those in James’ case are mirror images of Meyer’s, which is simply unethical.

    There are many other responses to this article which lay out the case why that is, so I won’t reiterate myself and others, so I hope you will read them.

    I’ve read all the books and I can honestly say that if James had done a better job of making her story truly original, I wouldn’t have such an issue with it, and that doesn’t have anything to do with the elements of abuse in the relationship and the horrible examples of the BDSM community and lifestyle, as well as the lack of editing, which didn’t help the story whatsoever.

    I can mindlessly read stories from time to time, but it has to be written in such a way that the reader doesn’t focus on anything but character interactions and basics in the plot, where descriptions are vague because they don’t really matter, but that’s not how this was written, and I tend to like using my higher brain functions, but reading this trilogy gave me a headache not even five chapters in. There were more faux paus in the first chapter than I’ve ever read in a single book, although I don’t usually tend to read books this badly written.

    The only reason I read this is because my cousin wouldn’t shut up about how great it is, and before that, I only got halfway through the first Twilight book, but I saw those similarities right away, and I didn’t even know about the fan fiction origins of Fifty Shades Trilogy before reading the first book, even if that didn’t change my reading the rest.

    Now I’m reading Twilight and although I still see the little things about it, it is also a vivid example of a well-written original book which can be read mindlessly or not, even if there is still things like warning signs to abuse, religious propaganda, and a rather shameful example to young girls that either the first boy they fall for is the only one for them or that they need a man to complete their lives.

    If you had trouble seeing these things and have read the Twilight Saga, I’m rather surprised, because they are so obvious, scarily so.

    And the difference between this woman and other people is that so many of those others created their characters, their premise, their plot, and it is all original to them. Yes, originality is subjective, but that isn’t an issue with Fifty Shades Trilogy because of how much is blatant taken from someone else, hence why it is called fan fiction.

    TL;DR, sorry about that.

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  148. M.
    Aug 22, 2012 @ 13:42:09

    what’s the big deal about the book? it is not even that good.

    it is like a regular harlequin with more so-called vulgar details, more spanks, more BDSM whatever you’d like to call it. EL James is NOT an erotica writer (have you all forgotten about anais nin, lawrence durrell, henry miller etc. who described eroticism and erotic scenes with real strength and poetry, not only dirty daydreams ) i am not being mean here, i am being completely rational.

    EL ‘s so-called erotica is NOT erotica. her sex scenes have no sense of musicality and artistic competence whatsoever. it’s because of writers like her that eroticism is taken often as ‘dirty’ or ‘taboo’ instead of the correct definitions and essences it is meant to be taken as: the most primitive, sensual form of art. (of course this is a very subjective perception on my side)

    long makes short, EL did no wrong legal-wise but (perhaps) wrong ethically. as for me i am totally agree with Jane Davitt above. other than the questions/cases whether EL should be sued or not (which i’m very sure she won’t since she makes tons of dimes for the publisher and bookstores everywhere) she should see into herself then think in form of questions; first: competency as a writer and how she wants to be presented and perceived as a writer/artist. if the real question here is moral-wise, then they’re the right questions to ask.

    PS. i really enjoy the intellectual replies here. it’s been a long time since i last discovered such meaningful, critical discussion :-)

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  149. melissa Ivory
    Aug 22, 2012 @ 17:07:29

    @M.: Thank you for your views, that is one thing I never thought about how she’s adding to the bad reputation erotica gets, but probably because so many erotic books are starting to sell more because of the Fifty Shades Trilogy, which I can only hope will change the overall view on erotica.

    I’ve very glad you’ve enjoyed the comments and I hope you continue to add to the discussion when more people comment.

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  150. Andrea Garcia
    Aug 23, 2012 @ 09:43:40

    @Keziah Hill:
    It ain’t really plagiarism, since though it recalls Twilight, its the same to her own work (MOTU, not Twilight) and for publishing it withouth being plagiarism, she took the references to Meyers saga, which were names, and common places such as fancy gifts like cars… Anyways both sagas (Meyers, and James) are very much alike to other fiction pieces related to romance. In many aspects, and nobody questions their originality for that :)

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  151. MornMeril
    Aug 28, 2012 @ 08:26:09

    I’ve read big parts of 50 Shades and find it a horrible piece of fiction, so badly written it hurts. For me, having read Twilight and being very familiar with fanfiction and also being a ff-writer myself, it was very obvious that the characters had their root in the Twilight characters. The mere fact that E.L. James simply changed the names and could get away with publishing her story without copyright infringement proves what a bad fanfiction it had to be to begin with. Even in AU fanfiction the characters are still supposed to be themselves – that’s the WHOLE POINT of fanfiction, otherwise everyone would simply write their original stories to begin with.

    I am truly offended as a writer that someone could have so little respect for their own work to simply go ahead and change some names and places and then be comfortable with selling it as a different story – and no, I don’t care one bit about the money, my problem lies entirely in the artistic pursuit- or lack thereof in this case – of E.L. James. I find this whole thing a loveless act and the sign of a person who does not identify as an artist – or see writing as an art in the first place. It saddens me that E.L. James obviously held not true love or respect for her own work, otherwise I cannot imagine any writer – or artist for that matter – to be able to go through with something like that.

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  152. Me!!!
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 01:09:07

    IT’S NOT FAIR :’( HOW COME THE AUTHOR OF 50 GETS PAYED FOR FANFICTION AND THE REST OF US DON’T?! I WANNA GET MONEY TOO!!

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  153. melissa Ivory
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 02:15:51

    @Me!!!: I know exactly how you feel, but do you have to yell?

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  154. melissa Ivory
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 02:19:42

    @Andrea Garcia: But it is, whether you like it or not. James wouldn’t have a book if she didn’t use the characters from Twilight, and that alone makes it plagiarism. If you don’t believe me, please read this article by Jami Gold which lays it all out. If you still agree after reading that, you’re as dim as your response was to Keziah and will no doubt be to me.

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  155. KT Grant
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 06:16:51

    This should interest people: http://crushable.com/entertainment/fifty-shades-of-grey-fanfic-devils-brand-yanked-casea-major-453/

    So know people are going to publish their own 50 Shades fan fic. But what if James and Vintage, her publisher sends out C&D letters to stop these writers from doing so? James can’t do that because it would make her a hypocrite right?

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  156. Anne
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 07:35:08

    Many Twilight fanfiction writers have already pulled their fics in order to self publish, but in the case of the writer Casea, I suspect that Icy’s (James in her fanfiction avatar) legal team have put pressure on her. I get the impression that her book was literally just James’s book with the names changed, just as James’s book was a Twilight fanfiction with the names changed. I am not sure, but James might have been on shakey ground sending out cease and desist letters to Casea, except for the fact that Stephenie Meyer, the author on whose original work and characters James’s book was built, has been very silent. You can take that one of two ways; either James has come to some agreement quietly with Meyer and her publisher’s legal team, or Meyer simply didn’t care that James had ripped off her characters and believe me, there is NO way in the world that you wouldn’t know that Anastasia was Bella, the biting of the bottom lip, the physical description, the clumsiness, the gauche naivete, that’s Bella to a T, and the same with the character of Christian. Edward is a controlling, manipulative stalker and is rich, he watches Bella while she sleeps, buys her a car. Nobody is saying that James plagiarized the story of Twilight, but she sure as hell plagiarised the characters and copyright law doesn’t just cover a plot or a storyline, it also covers blatant copying of a character. Changing the names or even just the places doesn’t make it any less of a plagiarism.

    What my publisher is finding is that they are getting a lot of manuscripts which are very similar to 50 Shades which indicates to me that writers are trying to cash in on the success of that trilogy of books. There ARE a lot of Twilight fanfiction writers who are pulling their fics and self publishing on the Twilight Coffee Shop which is the site that James self published through at first. She wasn’t taken up by Vintage until the books were best sellers on Amazon. However, it also has to be said that there are an awful lot of very good fanfiction writers out there who are more than capable of writing good original books which owe NOTHING to Twilight, Meyer, 50 Shades or James, in fact much better writers than Meyer or James, so their work shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.

    The bad side of all this is that good writers trying to get their original work published are being pushed to the side because the publishers now only see the financial success of 50 Shades and they all want a piece of that.

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  157. melissa Ivory
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 14:02:20

    @KT Grant: Yes, it would make her a hypocrite, but she’s already a thief, so I doubt she cares.

    @Anne: Many works derive from others, that’s not uncommon, but this scene of multiple manuscripts and, even worse, fan fiction writers trying to pass off their works as original with so much obviously from other works is a tragedy. Yes, so many things are about money, which only makes it sadder.

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  158. Fan fiction – The Future of Literature or the Same Old Story « Kbuuk, You Can Publish
    Sep 06, 2012 @ 15:43:52

    [...] ethics of the situation and the rightness and wrongness are fiercely debated, but where would we be if not inspired by the works of others in some way or another. Writers and [...]

  159. Stacy
    Sep 06, 2012 @ 20:31:29

    I’m an author myself. However, I am not a fan of fanfic and would never consider writing any. It somehow feels wrong to ride on the coat tails of another author and claim originality and to do so for profit. I’ve read enough of ’50 Shades’ to know it isn’t a worthy read. After reading this posting, there is way too many similarities to ‘Twilight’ to be an original work. How is this book not bordering on plagiarism? The word for word sentences should be considered plagiarism. But, that’s my opinion.

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  160. This Is Not a Post About “Fifty Shades of Grey” | The Funny Feminist
    Sep 08, 2012 @ 09:05:24

    [...] universe FANFICTION that the so-called “author” ran through Microsoft Word and replaced the names Edward Cullen and Bella Swan with Christian Grey and Anastasia Steele. She got a book deal and is making a financial killing because she ripped off Twilight. HOW IS THIS [...]

  161. Jebb
    Sep 08, 2012 @ 14:39:25

    Just to be clear to everyone, I don’t care at all about any of this. Never read the book, never will. Never been to this website before, never will again. Never read Twilight, never will, Never read the whole post above, never will. So the only question is, Why do I bother commenting? I guess to give some balance in the universe, in some small way. You’re welcome, world.

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  162. Martina Dejesus
    Sep 15, 2012 @ 17:16:16

    Sugiero leer el libro Cautiva del amor, de Rosemary, Harlequin Ibérica S.A. 2007 para que noten la similitud entre los personajesRaine Wimbourne/Anastasia Steel y Philippe Gautier/Chistian Grey, además de la trama en así, salvando la distancia de unos 150 años.

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  163. Isabel S
    Sep 22, 2012 @ 01:44:53

    I’m glad I didn’t purchase any of the books. I did get a sample from iBooks and knew that they were a Twilight fanfic and after reading the sample I saw the similarities. I totally agree with Jane and Melissa Ivory. I’m glad that I didn’t spend a penny on any of the books. Twilight fanfiction is better than this trilogy.

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  164. Ann
    Sep 22, 2012 @ 22:47:55

    Honestly, I will say that I am an avid fanfiction reader or Twilight, and believe me when I was handed 50 shades I immediately went online to look this up because it was too much alike the characters of Twilight. Now the problem me isn’t that she( James) took her fanfic and redid some things and published it. the problem to me is that the character in 50 shades are not her original characters, the story line is, but not the characters i’m sorry. Take Kate for example the personality of her and looks( sort of) are all based on MOTU, Rose, which is then just like twilight. Take Elliot for example I mean come on people that is Emmett to the freaking MAX. His personality and everything he said in 50 shades is exactly like Meyer’s twilight character. So for me i’m not mad at James for doing her thing, but I don’t appreciate her characters not being original. Do you all understand now? Yes the plot is hers, but not and i mean not the characters, oh wow she changed Bella’s name to Ana so now its original but it’s not, because in her fanfic of MOTU it was original Bella character of Meyer’s work that she made her story out of, so to me, the only good thing about 50 shades is the sex ! I firmly believe 50 shades is an Twilight story that now, our parents can enjoy.

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  165. Book Review: Fifty Shades of Grey (Trilogy) « Something Unspoken
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 04:48:26

    [...] I found this site just after the books arrived, Master of the Universe versus Fifty Shades by E.L James Comparison [...]

  166. brickeater
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 14:40:52

    Wow, so I guess Shakespeare shouldn’t have written A Midsummer Night’s Dream or Romeo and Juliet, and while we’re at it, why not charge both Stephanie Meyer AND J.K. Rowling with being ‘immoral’ and ‘unethical’, since the ideas of witches, warlocks, vampires and all that jazz was never their creation to begin with, along with a young boy who was orphaned, an adopted child, a young, socially awkward girl with no emotional sense whatsoever, seriously, do some of you understand how ludicrous it sounds? Ideas are always borrowed and recycled, it’s always been this way, there’s just no such thing as true ‘original work’ anymore, and what’s wrong with that? Many people enjoy stories, plots and characters that are constantly rehashed over and over again, once again, nothing wrong with that. If that’s the only quarrel throughout this whole debacle then it’s just preposterous.

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  167. Andrea Garcia
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 14:46:07

    @brickeater: I totally agree with this explanation. This is the hole point, literature is not a matter of writing something completely new, but interest from its own point of view. :)

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  168. melissa Ivory
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 16:14:30

    @brickeater and @Andrea Garcia: You sound angry Brickeater, possibly unreasonably so, but I’m going to try and make sense, to both of you, even when I will be simply leaving links in the end to help make my point.

    Shakespeare created his own characters, premise, although he used tropes which existed, that isn’t the issue being highlighted here. In fact, his were the first characters of their kind, which means, by extension, anyone writing a character somewhat like his is using him as a trope, which is common when the author is so famous.
    Tropes like you pointed out, magic and mythical creatures, are not something that anyone holds authors accountable for in terms of originality. It is a unspoken rule that no one compares tropes in terms of originality, because everyone will use them, even if they try not to, hence why they are called tropes. It is simpler things in original characters, like their personality, reactions, interactions, and overall history, which made them unique.
    S Meyer and JK Rowling met those requirements with their characters, and to suggest otherwise is rude. That is why articles like this point out authors like EL James for not creating their own and using someone else’s, since a name change is not any more original than stolen characters.
    It’s not just what James did, publishing her fan fiction, but also why she did and how she treats the Twilight and her own fandoms. Another issue, one I’m very adamant about, is that she corrupted a series so horribly that people still continue with their misconceptions of the Twilight Saga based on the horribly obvious abusive relationship in the Fifty Shades trilogy. Whether people see that or not, as I know those who don’t, doesn’t change that it is there.
    For the sake of getting my point across and not misrepresenting these articles, and in the case of the first link being to a review here which I find important for all to read, I leave you with these links, which should be helpful if you’re not going to be blinded by misconceptions as many are, if the praises this trilogy receives unfairly is anything to go by.

    Comparison of the characters from the Twilight Saga to the Fifty Shades Trilogy (this shows the author couldn’t even create her own characters and exactly how those in Fifty Shades are like their counterparts in Twilight.)
    Fifty Shades author hates the Twilight fans which made her famous (this shows that the author was in it for the money, which is just one of many unethical things she’s done.)
    When Does Fan Fiction Cross An Ethical Line? by Jami Gold (here is another example of why the author crossed an ethical line not rewriting her story.)
    What Makes a Character Unique? by Jami Gold (another example of why the author plagiarised the characters from Twilight.)
    An Author’s Guide to Fan Fiction by Jami Gold (this just shows that not all fan fiction writers will do this, and also why people are up-in-arms about the fan fiction origins of this trilogy.)
    Fifty Shades of Domestic Violence
    Fifty Shades and Abusive Relationships
    Another Fifty Shades Domestic Violence PSA, now with added author breakdown

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  169. brickeater
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 20:30:13

    I completely understand why some of you are so adamant about being against James’ novels, the difference here is that I believe your stance is ridiculous. No offense, but it sounds straight up silly to dwell on something as insignificant as the fact that both Ana and Bella’s characters were clumsy and nonsense as that. And it sounds even sillier that you mention that mythology and such, or ‘tropes’, can be repeated because it’s inevitable, but not aspects of certain characters? Now tell me about these unspoken rules then, mythical creatures can be borrowed but certain characteristics can’t? Why is that? The human experience, as vast as it is, is for the most part limited. It’s bound to be repeated because it’s in our nature, and as such is personified in literature. Again, what’s wrong with that? For the similarities that some are focusing on, there’s also quite a few differences. Therefore, it’s not plagiarism at all, not even close. I’m not angry at all, but the repetitive tirade of those who oppose said topic is a really annoying thing to read, especially when it sounds ridiculous. Can’t help but be irked by the mountains people are making out of molehills, which is a big difference from being full on angry, so don’t be so quick to assume melissa. However, judging by what you posted, I believe it is you who sounds incredibly angry, and quite bitter, though I can’t figure out why. You’re not either or these authors, yet you’re so passionate to bring down someone who’s done what countless fanfiction authors dream of doing. And another thing, the fact that there are websites bashing what she did shows that some people have a little too much time in their hands, sorry, had to be said.

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  170. Jami Gold
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 20:34:51

    @brickeater: I’m sorry you didn’t take the time to read through the links Melissa posted. If you had, you might have recognized that there is a world of difference between taking pieces and parts from various inspirations to create something new and the purposeful copying of one single source to evoke the original characters.

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  171. brickeater
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 20:48:31

    No need to feel sorry for me Jami, it’s all good :) . I’d rather not taint what I thought was an decent read. With flaws? Of course. With errors? You bet. But in my opinion, a story is meant to be read and enjoyed as a whole, there’s no need to be nitpicky about every little detail in a novel and comparing it to other experiences/sources, it’ll drive anyone mad. At the end of the day, it’s just a story.

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  172. melissa Ivory
    Sep 24, 2012 @ 22:21:20

    @brickeater: Making broad statements seems angry to be, because I’ve rarely dealt with someone who wasn’t when doing that. If that’s not the case, I apologise for misinterpreting your comment.
    However, the rest of my last statement stands, and it’s not because I don’t have too much time on my hands, working from home gives me that option, but because I do feel strongly about the unethical practices EL James has taken. It is not that I’m nitpicking, although I know some who have, it is more a matter of people knowing all the facts, something I believe everyone should have.
    The last thing I am is bitter, but I do admit to being pessimistic in regards to people praising this trilogy for all the things that are wrong with it, as well as people lacking sensible logic in their arguments, which you’re clearly not. I’m sorry you cannot see the faults in this woman’s writing, the least being her lack of proper storytelling overall and the most being her making money by twisting someone else’s creation so it barely yet is still distinguishable from it’s origin, as well as the fans of the origin series.
    What is so hard to understand about that?
    What part of the links I gave was hard to comprehend?
    What is wrong with proper syntax and paragraphs?

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  173. brickeater
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 05:28:16

    That’s fine, but it’s like I told the previous poster, there’s absolutely no need to feel sorry for me. I enjoyed the story very much and that’s it. And once again, it’s not that I don’t understand (seriously, why do some of you keep telling me that I don’t understand? Or that I don’t comprehend?), it’s simply a matter of what I hold in high regard or above all else. Storytelling for me is what does it, and I believe the author did a good job at it, everything else is secondary. I’d rather ignore proper syntax, morality and so forth for the sake of enjoying a good read, so it all comes down to a matter of opinion and what we perceive to be reading-worthy. I’m a natural pessimist myself, and quite paranoid in real life (My husband often reminds me of this lol, but in a joking way of course), so I’d rather not implement my own mechanisms to how I perceive life to the mediums I use to mentally escape just that. So she made a character who was similar to Bella, so what? was Bella also studying to be a journalist? Did she also receive a job in a publishing company? Did Edward build a multi-billion dollar company with his bare hands, was he also into the BDSM lifestyle as was Christian? Because I don’t remember reading any of that in the Twilight novels. I don’t think this is a matter of whether or not what the author did was plagiarism (which I clearly don’t believe), this is a matter of people focusing too much on the insignificant, and instead of looking at the story as a whole, are honing in on the small similarities, while ignoring the differences. And even if there were many similarities, once again, so what? Inspiration is derived from many things, and this happened to be James’ source. It would be preposterous to claim plagiarism on human characteristics IMO. I now see that it’s all boiling down to opinion, you have yours and I have mine, can’t agree on everything so once again, enough with accusing me that I don’t understand, it’s becoming repetitive. However, on the side note, I do believe at some point in the future, James will be sued by Meyers, just because at the end of the day it’s all about the Benjamins. I don’t believe she would win though, but once again, my opinion.

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  174. Anni
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 05:39:19

    Brickeater, if you liked the book then that’s fine, there’s no problem is there? However what you have to allow is that those who did not like the book or who disagreed with James’s motives when changing it from a fanfiction to a published work by merely altering the character names are entitled to their opinions as well.

    James did plagiarise the characters, no matter which way you choose to look at it. All of the characters in the 50 Shades books are wholly recognisable in their Twilight forms. It’s true that there are no truly original concepts any more, but actual characters do come entirely from our own imagination and we can still be very original in the way they act, look, personality traits etc. Anastasia and Christian are exactly as Meyer described Bella and Edward in her books, ergo James has stolen those characterisations to create her books. It would be like someone taking the heroine or hero from my own novel, keeping them exactly as they are and then just changing their names. I as an author would be very offended and I actually would take them to court for copyright infringement because they are MY characters and they are protected under international copyright law.

    Meyer for some reason has chosen not to indict James for copyright infringement and that’s her business. The book is massively successful, but James bought that success on the backs of hundreds of Twilight fans and then subsequently turned her back on the fandom. She did say she was only in it for the money and she’s made her millions, I am sure she’s fine with that. I doubt that another ORIGINAL book will be forthcoming from her and to be honest, as an author, I am pleased about that because as a piece of literature it was godawful.

    Accusing people of being bitter just because they dare to criticise or dislike something that you liked is a bit silly. We all have our own opinions, we don’t have to think like you or anyone else. I do think that there is anger on all sides. I don’t know, but perhaps you are part of James’s Posse? They tend to get all bent out of shape if anyone dares to criticise their idol. Perhaps you aren’t and I am doing you a disservice, either way I don’t care. I suggest that you allow us our opinions and we will have the respect to allow you yours.

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  175. KT Grant
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 05:40:33

    brickeater: The big problem we have isn’t that Twilight influenced James to write Fifty Shades. It’s a well known fact James posted what became Fifty Shades as Twilight fan fiction on a fan fiction board called fan fiction net and then created her own blog to continue on with the fan fiction after fan fic net booted her off for it being too erotic . What she did then is called P2P- pull to publish when she realized she could make money after a million people read Masters of the Universe, what became Fifty Shades of Grey. She scraped away the characters from Twilight such as Edward, Bella, Alice and so forth and changed them to her own character’s names such as Edward is now Christian, Bella is now Ana and Alice is now Kate.

    There is one cardinal rule through fan fiction land, going on 60 years, that you don’t profit from fan fiction. James has broken this unwritten rule because Twilight isn’t free domain like Pride and Prejudice or Jane Eyre.

    Meyer isn’t going to sue, she said she won’t for her own reasons . But now that James has done this successfully, more and more fan fictions are being published and successfully I might add. This opens a whole new can of worms as to what is considered ethical or not. Now anyone can published their fan fiction because James did it.

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  176. brickeater
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 06:11:21

    “Accusing people of being bitter just because they dare to criticise or dislike something that you liked is a bit silly. We all have our own opinions, we don’t have to think like you or anyone else. I do think that there is anger on all sides. I don’t know, but perhaps you are part of James’s Posse? They tend to get all bent out of shape if anyone dares to criticize their idol. Perhaps you aren’t and I am doing you a disservice, either way I don’t care. I suggest that you allow us our opinions and we will have the respect to allow you yours. ”

    Whoa whoa whoa, where did all this resentment come from? It’s like you stated Anni, no need to get bent out of shape, so then why are you? Accusing me of being a part of James’ posse? Never mind the fact that I wasn’t even aware there was one, and accusing me of not having a mentality of my own if I’m for this book? I never asked anyone to see my rationale, nor do I intend to, just stating how I viewed the matter, so tell me exactly why are you targeting me, honey? And another thing, if you actually took the time to read my original comment, you could clearly see that I didn’t target anyone specifically or call anyone angry and bitter from the beginning. Only when I was accused by a previous commenter did I defend myself, but obviously you didn’t take the time to do that, and just skimmed through the entire discussion, and you have the gall to call me one sided? Hypocrite.

    But I do however completely agree with you in one thing, at the end of the day, it all comes down to the matter of opinion. We’re all entitled to it, I already expressed mine, so there’s no need for you to personally attack me for a silly reason. We can all go back and forth on how this is all morally wrong, right or unethical, or she broke some sacred, invisible rule, but at the end of the day it boils down to opinion and only that.

    And I believe that it was a good move that Meyer decided not to take legal action, a very classy move from her part. Had she done so, I believe many people would’ve changed their personal views about her, and would’ve seen her as no different than James, who obviously did it for the financial gain. But then again isn’t that what we’re all striving for?

    Here’s a website that further goes into the claim from the basis of the FF world, what’s allowed, and what’s disallowed should anyone choose to convert FF to published novels.

    http://chillingeffects.org/fanfic/faq.cgi#QID232

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  177. Anni
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 14:40:59

    @brickeater:

    Honey, I am not the one who is posting reply after reply to these posts, that would be you. I tried to be decent in my earlier reply, I even said that you were entitled to your opinion, and I repeat, so are the rest of us. I can clearly see that having a discussion with you is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed person, so I will leave you with that.

    I actually don’t give a rat’s arse what James does or doesn’t do. Personally if I had been Meyer I would have sued her arse off, and if that isn’t a classy response perhaps that’s because I don’t pretend to be anything other than I am, just an ordinary person who writes original fiction. I’m pretty sure that James doesn’t need you to defend her, she is well insulated by the bags of money!

    A’ bientot

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  178. brickeater
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 14:58:32

    And yet here you are, constantly bashing said author and complaining that I reply to those that speak directly to me (as any discussion normally goes), so tell me sweetie, what does that say about you? I wasn’t speaking to you from the beginning, you introduced yourself, and as such, I expressed my disagreement with what you posted. Now where’s the problem, why so defensive? Don’t you know how to ‘agree to disagree’? Clearly not. Your double standards are comical. Seeing as you clearly have nothing else descent or knowledgeable to contribute, then you shouldn’t have a problem taking your own advice and cease from responding back. Yet something tells me that won’t be the case.

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  179. melissa Ivory
    Sep 25, 2012 @ 15:43:51

    @brickeater: Fair enough, you liked the books, but you never made that clear. To continue arguing your opinion without regard for the other opinions given is not how you make people understand your point, but you’ve done that now, and the misunderstood argument is over. At least with me.

    It’s fine that you want to read and take the book as a whole, but not all the links I gave focused on James’ unethical practices or plagiarism, but also the story as a whole, which presents to some as abusive, verbally, emotionally, and sexually. While reading, I saw all these problems, and although I focused on smaller issues like the books lack of editing—something which the company that published, what originally was released as an ebook, should have done—but I also saw the bigger issues, like Christian as a sexual predator who likes to skirt the law just so that he cannot be jailed, no matter how much money he has, and Ana is naive enough not understand what he’s doing, hence why she doesn’t see it, but someone who does would.

    I hope you don’t take this as an attack on your comprehension, but you never referred back to the last links I gave, and I just want to make sure you know I’m not just nitpicking at the little things.

    The website you gave is interesting, but only gives the laws as they stand in the US, which doesn’t cover every fandom and laws which are important to understanding the global case of ethics in fan fiction. Also, it might be updated regularly with new questions, but some of the information in others are slightly, not entirely, outdated, but not enough to contradict it completely. It would be nice if international laws were included—since the fan fiction community is not strictly American—but that’s a whole different matter.

    I would like to thank you for using paragraphs, it made reading your responses easier, without confusing the reader, so that people are better able to respond back.

    @KT Grant: Not to nitpick, but P2P is more common and globally accepted abbreviation of Peer 2 Peer, in regards to programmes like Limewire, Napster, but now any and all torrenting. I understand that these sites which help people publish their fan fiction used that, but it doesn’t make it easy when that has been used to a completely different process for the last 15 years or so.

    I’m not trying to attack you for this, but just thought you should be aware.

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  180. Sky
    Sep 26, 2012 @ 00:35:11

    @brickeater It’s not that we don’t want to read rehashed stories with good plots and characters. It’s just that ’50 Shades’ doesn’t supply any of that. If ’50 Shades’ wasn’t repetitive, if it didn’t have 1 dimensional characters, if the BDSM was actually better researched and if the paragraphs didn’t closely resemble SM, then I doubt we’d be having this discussion. It could have had potential, that is if EL James owned a thesaurus. She admitted that was wasn’t a good writer. Why invest in someone who has no confidence in her own work? There are much better authors in this world. And the books are cheaper.

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  181. Fanfiction and publishing and ethics and simply having fun » Ktrenal Winterheart
    Sep 28, 2012 @ 15:14:28

    [...] of is the fact that while I write fanfiction, I’m not making money out of it, unlike some unethical people out there (there’s a separate link on each and every one of those words, by the way. [...]

  182. Da Cinquanta Sfumature di Grigio a Tom Stoppard
    Oct 02, 2012 @ 06:47:36

    [...] Erika Leonard – vero nome dell’autrice di Cinquanta Sfumature – scrive il libro come parte di un esperimento di fanfiction collettiva ispirata a Twilight, con il titolo di Master of the Universe. Master riceve una buona accoglienza, anche se viene rimosso da alcuni siti specializzati perché troppo spinto. La Leonard lo risistema, cambia titolo e nomi dei protagonisti, riuscendo a venderne i diritti a una casa editrice. In breve tempo il romanzo diviene un best-seller. I dettagli potete trovarli qui e qui. [...]

  183. Republ33k – Dossier : Fifty Shades of Grey
    Oct 16, 2012 @ 11:57:05

    [...] bouquin est en fait une ré-écriture d’une fanfiction sur Twilight (ceci explique cela) intitulé « Master of the [...]

  184. Fifty Shades of Grey | MeMe Viral Jokes
    Oct 28, 2012 @ 19:47:22

    [...] [3] Dear Author – Master of the Universe versus Fifty Shades by E.L. James Comparison [...]

  185. Stefanie
    Nov 06, 2012 @ 23:56:25

    Does anyone know where can I read the whole fun fiction of this? I’m currently reading fifty shades of freed I’m loving the series and yea I agree .. When I hear Ana think is like I’m listening of Bella. Every time tHey mention Chistians chest hair I think of Rob Pattinson like Edward lol many similarities but I still love the series both of them I’m just curious about this fan fiction so where can I read it all or get the PDF? Help! thanks!! My twitter @stefanieRibarra

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  186. melissa Ivory
    Nov 07, 2012 @ 01:29:02

    @Stefanie: It is almost impossible to find a working copy to download by any other means than torrent right now because James has the publishing company Random House taking it down, even though that is illegal as the fan fiction is not copyright protected.

    I have looked around and the only link I can find does not guarantee it’ll work.

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  187. Anne Selby
    Nov 07, 2012 @ 04:06:53

    To be honest, the whole thing is a moot point now. James has made a lot of money, she never ever has to write another book if she doesn’t want to, for which fact I am extremely grateful. The book, in the UK at least, is starting its journey to the £2 bargain bucket in the basement of Waterstones and W H Smith or is being offered as a free gift in supermarkets if you buy a couple of packs of bacon! It was never going to be a classic or part of what we term to be literature.

    What James has done has immeasurably damaged the publishing business though. In the past few months I have waded my way through hundreds of very badly written, badly edited ebooks on my Kindle. People are self publishing their works which should be a good thing, but they are publishing them without any kind of professional editing, which is a very bad thing. James’s success has encouraged that.

    There is a saying that ‘everyone has a book inside them’; the rest of that saying could be ‘but god forbid that they should let it all out’ in some cases. The publishing world used to be very afraid of that saying, perhaps they still should be.

    As for those who defend James and her ‘book’, well my mother always used to say “There’s no accounting for tastes; said the man who kissed the cow.”

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  188. Stefane
    Nov 07, 2012 @ 09:44:40

    @melissa Ivory: hi thanks for replaying! Can you share that link please here or with me via twitter @stefanieRibarra … Also I’m almost done with that series, so I’m wondering is master of the universe is too far off from fifty shades or is it just the names of the characters? Thanks again

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  189. Anne Selby
    Nov 07, 2012 @ 10:22:34

    @ Stefane… Master of the Universe and 50 Shades are something like 89% exactly the same story, only the names have been changed. It IS the same story.

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  190. melissa Ivory
    Nov 07, 2012 @ 13:40:21

    @Stefane: Anne is right, they are the same, with a few additions only to Fifty Shades. Also, I don’t see why you cannot see the link, which was embedded in the text, in the words “the only link I could find.” Even if you’re on a mobile, you should be able to see that and click it, and if you’re seeing this message in your email, it should appear either just the same or in HTML. There is no need for me to send you it any other way.

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  191. 50 Shades : Le proc
    Nov 17, 2012 @ 20:41:31

    [...] et qu’on ne la doit pas au boulot de l’éditeur ? Parce que le blog Dear Author a comparé le texte initial de la fanfiction Master of the Universe avec le texte publié de 50 Shades, dans le but précis de démontrer à quel point les deux étaient proches. Les références à [...]

  192. E.L. James Fifty Shades of Grey | readinginistanbul
    Nov 22, 2012 @ 06:46:46

    [...] Internete teko užtikti vien? labai ?dom? fakt? apie ši? knyg?, kad ji priklauso FanFiction ir yra parašyta remiantis Twilight saga. Taigi pasirodo, kad ši knyga yra erotiška Twilight versija. Pla?iau apie tai ?IA. [...]

  193. Fifty shades of I am annoyed « no highway to guide me home
    Nov 25, 2012 @ 09:03:54

    [...] have claimed that Master of the Universe and Fifty Shades are significantly different, but a comparison posted on dearauthor.com asserts that they are 89% the same, which means it’s Twilight characterization with found and replaced [...]

  194. Sonia
    Nov 27, 2012 @ 06:40:57

    You know copying work, changing names and then re-submitting it as your own is consider bad from even amoung fan fic fans. Anyone caught trying this usually has their work removed, given warning, banned from the site and other sites hosting the story or author are warned.

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  195. Sky
    Nov 27, 2012 @ 19:19:10

    Sonia: One might wonder why E L James was allowed to publish this book given its similarities to ‘Twilight’. Why is it even a best seller? And why has she made millions copying another author? No publishing company ever should have even considered signing her with that excuse of a book. I don’t see her as a real author. Could she possibly stand on her own with an original work? I don’t think so. I just hope she doesn’t continue writing fan fic, using other author’s ideas and then pretending it’s her own. She has already said that she just wanted to see if she could make a buck. It was never about writing for her. Anyone reading her book would have to agree. Hopefully, readers won’t buy into her crap again. I’m one of many who hope this is her only work. She came in fast. Crossing my fingers that she will go out fast. ’50 Shades’ is a fad. Hopefully, her book will RIP with the mullet and Lee Press on Nails.

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  196. 50 Shades of Twilight | V5 blog
    Nov 29, 2012 @ 15:31:09

    [...] of the Universe and 50 Shades of Grey are two distinctly separate pieces of work.” But the site Dear Author, which compared the two works side by side, revealed that the texts have 89% similarity. It’s [...]

  197. John Tells Liz What Happened In “50 Shades of Grey” (Part 1) « Liz Tells Frank What Happened In…
    Dec 04, 2012 @ 12:51:56

    [...] But blogger Jane Litte, using a plagiarism detection program called Turnitin, compared the Fifty Shades trilogy with the original fan fiction posted on FanFiction.net (titled Master of the Universe!) and discovered that they were 89% similar. [...]

  198. E.L. James ‘Publishing Person of the Year’ by Publisher’s Weekly « Stumbling Towards Ecstasy
    Dec 04, 2012 @ 17:19:43

    [...] origins as fan fiction and my tuned changed. When I saw Dear Author‘s comparison of Master of the Universe (the original fan fic) and 50SofG and saw the 89% sameness, my disgust only grew. Shame on the author, and shame on Random House that [...]

  199. Sofia
    Dec 04, 2012 @ 21:04:07

    I actually HATE 50 shades of grey. I personally think James did a crap job with her fanfic, because the Edward Myers made and James’ Christian have close to nothing in common. Edward, even though I kind of find him boring, is a gentleman. He’s sweet and caring. Christian is controlling, abusive, and a jerk. He hurts Ana, and she is constantly afriad of him, but she lets him continue doing it. And why? Because he’s hot. James’ is a absolutely horrible writer in my opinion. I’ve read many better fanfics, and some of those were by teenagers. Her book doesn’t even have a proper plot- all I got was:
    Christian stalks Ana at a place she eats, then stalks her at her work, then when Ana gets drunk and calls him, he tracks her phone to find her. Next he takes her to her to his mansion and trys to force her to sign a contract which lets him decide what she wears, eats, how often she waxs/shaves and doesn’t let her masturbate. Because he wants all the pleasure He also shows her his torture room. Yes, torture room. Thats what he calls it. Then comes sex, abuse, sex, abuse, sex, abuse, abuse, abuse, abuse. I feel sorry for all the women who read this and think abuse is a man trying to show him he loves them. Because thats what Ana thinks he’s doing. Abuse is NOT part of a healthy relationship. If I was Ana, I wouldn’t of ran away from him as in the first 50 pages of the book. But she doesn’t care if he treats her like shit and hurts her, becuase ‘Oh my’ he’s hot! Now, I can’t help but rant about how damn annoying her Oh my’s are becoming. For fucks sake, every second sentence, ‘Oh my, he done this and that to hurt me, but since he’s hot, it doesn’t really matter, right? Oh my, it feels so good when he abuses me. Oh my, he’s so big. I mean, even though I’ve never had sex or masturbated before, I know his big. Something the size of a tiny carrot has to be big, right? Oh my, he’s so good at sex. Even if this is my first time, I know he must be better then everyone else. Why? Because he abuses me! That makes me feel soooo good. Now I know what all the fuss is about!’ She sounds like a damn 15 year old. I know somebody who read this at 12. Do you really want the little kiddies to think thats normal? For god sake, she told me, “Hehe. Christian Grey likes to whip little girls. I’m in love with him.” WHAT THE FUCK?! I wanted to fucking kill somebody when I heard that. Bitch, you ruin peoples minds with your shit. I’m aware I’m ranting right now, but what the hell, I fucking hate the book! Telling people abuse is good is definetly not right. So James? Please, fuck off. You have no idea how to write a good book, and I have no idea how the fuck your shit book became a bestseller, because it’s crap. Absolute fucking crap. This is probably the worst book I’ve EVER read. And just so you know, I’ve read lots. Hell, I hate this more then House of Night. Okay, I’m fucking pissed now. I get like this every time I think about this shit -.-
    I’m going back to my Vampire Academy. I shall read that, because that is a god damned good book, with a sweet guy, who in no way tries to hurt Rose. He fucking protects her from people who try to fucking hurt her and take bloody advantage of her. Thats what Christian should do. But no, Christian is the guy who fucking hurts the girl and takes advantage of her. Damnit, if only Dimitri was in 50 shades of crap, he would of taught Christian a damn lesson. But then again, the world of 50 shades is probably to shit for him. It’s absolute bullshit. Dimitri deserves better. Oh Dimitri… He protected his mother when his father tried to abuse her… *swoons*

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  200. KT Grant
    Dec 05, 2012 @ 03:52:33

    @Sofia: You should post this as a review on Goodreads. *applauds*

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