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		<title>By: Black Silk &#171; Jorrie Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Silk &#171; Jorrie Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this one, mainly because there was a discussion at Racy Romance Reviews and dueling reviews at Dear Author* recently. And I couldn&#8217;t read them, because I was still reading Black [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-226264&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kaetrin&lt;/a&gt;: Perhaps if I had not had the experience of loving this book so completely the first time I read it, I would feel similarly.  

Thanks for the lovely words about my review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-226264" rel="nofollow">Kaetrin</a>: Perhaps if I had not had the experience of loving this book so completely the first time I read it, I would feel similarly.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the lovely words about my review.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaetrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaetrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.

I find it difficult to separate her craftsmanship from my overall view of the book.  I didn&#039;t like it really.  So, it didn&#039;t strike me, personally, as well crafted.   I didn&#039;t particularly admire it.  

I can see however, that you did and that just goes to prove the saying about horses for courses.

As for whether you could write that well or not - I thought your review was beautifully written - as an homage to a book you loved, it was thoughtful and evocative.  It made me want to read this book you loved so much and experience those things too (- but of course, I could not.)  Given how I felt about the book, that the review (in fact, both yours and Jaynes) made me feel that way - well, I think you write very well indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>I find it difficult to separate her craftsmanship from my overall view of the book.  I didn&#8217;t like it really.  So, it didn&#8217;t strike me, personally, as well crafted.   I didn&#8217;t particularly admire it.  </p>
<p>I can see however, that you did and that just goes to prove the saying about horses for courses.</p>
<p>As for whether you could write that well or not &#8211; I thought your review was beautifully written &#8211; as an homage to a book you loved, it was thoughtful and evocative.  It made me want to read this book you loved so much and experience those things too (- but of course, I could not.)  Given how I felt about the book, that the review (in fact, both yours and Jaynes) made me feel that way &#8211; well, I think you write very well indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-225692&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kaetrin&lt;/a&gt;:

I understand how you feel, since the book was not as great a reread for me as it was the first time I read it. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not exactly sure what you mean by â€œfrom a literary perspectiveâ€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just mean that both in terms of the fluidity and control of the language, and in terms of the characterization, this book is hard to match in the genre.  Like or dislike the characters, connect with them or not, they are just so whole, so complete and so real seeming.  That to me is a real achievement.  

So I guess I also mean that Ivory is a writer&#039;s writer.  I admire her craftsmanship, the building blocks of the book, tremendously.  In terms of language, I doubt I could ever write as well if I tried my hardest from now until the day I died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-225692" rel="nofollow">Kaetrin</a>:</p>
<p>I understand how you feel, since the book was not as great a reread for me as it was the first time I read it. </p>
<blockquote><p>I&#39;m not exactly sure what you mean by â€œfrom a literary perspectiveâ€</p></blockquote>
<p>I just mean that both in terms of the fluidity and control of the language, and in terms of the characterization, this book is hard to match in the genre.  Like or dislike the characters, connect with them or not, they are just so whole, so complete and so real seeming.  That to me is a real achievement.  </p>
<p>So I guess I also mean that Ivory is a writer&#8217;s writer.  I admire her craftsmanship, the building blocks of the book, tremendously.  In terms of language, I doubt I could ever write as well if I tried my hardest from now until the day I died.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaetrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaetrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The book felt like a complex, elaborate, beautifully wrought intellectual exercise. The blood-pumping heart of the story seemed to me, this time, to be buried under layers and layers of cerebral fat. I could see that Graham and Submit were perfect for one another, but I wanted to feel a deep, irreversible connection between them. I wanted my heart to beat faster at the thought of these two people connecting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes that!!  (well, except maybe I don&#039;t think quite so beautifully wrought as you do!)

I read this book early this year.   Unlike you Janine, I&#039;d have given it a C, maybe a C-.  I grade (that sounds like my grades matter - and, except to me, they don&#039;t!) on how much I enjoyed the book and for that, I have to connect with them.  I sort of did with Graham but didn&#039;t with Submit.  

I also felt that it was a very odd kind of romance - it was quite a way into the book before Graham and Submit kissed and not too far before then that I became certain they were supposed to end up together.   Yes there were parts of lyrical prose but the book just didn&#039;t touch me and I found myself wondering what all the fuss was about.

I read it all the way through and it was not a struggle even though it was slow slow slow.  But, at the end, I felt a bit cheated - like I&#039;d been built up and built up for... something, which never arrived.  I think I disliked the book the more I thought about it actually.

Because of that, I can&#039;t agree with you that this is
&lt;blockquote&gt;surely, from a literary perspective, one of the most accomplished novels in the genre.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(although you are definitely entitled to your view of course).  Plus, I&#039;m not exactly sure what you mean by &quot;from a literary perspective&quot;.  In the end, I didn&#039;t connect with the characters, so it wasn&#039;t successful for me.  I have been moved by so many other novels in the genre so much more than this book (where, pretty much, I wasn&#039;t moved at all).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The book felt like a complex, elaborate, beautifully wrought intellectual exercise. The blood-pumping heart of the story seemed to me, this time, to be buried under layers and layers of cerebral fat. I could see that Graham and Submit were perfect for one another, but I wanted to feel a deep, irreversible connection between them. I wanted my heart to beat faster at the thought of these two people connecting.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes that!!  (well, except maybe I don&#8217;t think quite so beautifully wrought as you do!)</p>
<p>I read this book early this year.   Unlike you Janine, I&#8217;d have given it a C, maybe a C-.  I grade (that sounds like my grades matter &#8211; and, except to me, they don&#8217;t!) on how much I enjoyed the book and for that, I have to connect with them.  I sort of did with Graham but didn&#8217;t with Submit.  </p>
<p>I also felt that it was a very odd kind of romance &#8211; it was quite a way into the book before Graham and Submit kissed and not too far before then that I became certain they were supposed to end up together.   Yes there were parts of lyrical prose but the book just didn&#8217;t touch me and I found myself wondering what all the fuss was about.</p>
<p>I read it all the way through and it was not a struggle even though it was slow slow slow.  But, at the end, I felt a bit cheated &#8211; like I&#8217;d been built up and built up for&#8230; something, which never arrived.  I think I disliked the book the more I thought about it actually.</p>
<p>Because of that, I can&#8217;t agree with you that this is</p>
<blockquote><p>surely, from a literary perspective, one of the most accomplished novels in the genre.</p></blockquote>
<p>(although you are definitely entitled to your view of course).  Plus, I&#8217;m not exactly sure what you mean by &#8220;from a literary perspective&#8221;.  In the end, I didn&#8217;t connect with the characters, so it wasn&#8217;t successful for me.  I have been moved by so many other novels in the genre so much more than this book (where, pretty much, I wasn&#8217;t moved at all).</p>
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		<title>By: Janet W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Never was one of my faves: my rescue from burning house Judith Ivory is Untie My Heart -- what really interested me was your comments about re-reading a much loved book. For me, mostly, it&#039;s no worries but sometimes it&#039;s &quot;what was I smoking!?&quot; I&#039;ll have to re-skim BS &#039;cause I know I&#039;ll want to read and revel in tomorrow&#039;s rrrjessica&#039;s fun fest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Never was one of my faves: my rescue from burning house Judith Ivory is Untie My Heart &#8212; what really interested me was your comments about re-reading a much loved book. For me, mostly, it&#8217;s no worries but sometimes it&#8217;s &#8220;what was I smoking!?&#8221; I&#8217;ll have to re-skim BS &#8217;cause I know I&#8217;ll want to read and revel in tomorrow&#8217;s rrrjessica&#8217;s fun fest!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-225572&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EmilyW&lt;/a&gt;: Yes, it does make sense.  Although where Toni Morrison&#039;s novels are concerned, I prefer &lt;em&gt;Beloved&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;em&gt;The Bluest Eye&lt;/em&gt;was just so heart rending for me, and as it was  my first Morrison, I wasn&#039;t prepared for that.

I know what you mean about how novels that require work of us can still be really great.  And I think the writing in &lt;em&gt;Black Silk&lt;/em&gt; is some of the genre&#039;s finest, so I hope readers take a chance on it despite my words of caution.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-225585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bettie&lt;/a&gt;: Great to see you here! The effort involved in reading &lt;em&gt;Black Silk&lt;/em&gt; surprised me this time around.  I think the first time I read it, I finished it in two or three days, which isn&#039;t slow for me, especially considering that it is a long book.  I was so fascinated with nearly everyone in the book and that interest carried me along like a wave.  This time, I remembered  the characters pretty well, and their originality didn&#039;t come as a surprise, so I had to expend more effort in the reading process.  And since that took some of the thrill away for me, I have to wonder if I&#039;ve become intellectually lazy, or conditioned to expect the thrill of newness every time I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-225572" rel="nofollow">EmilyW</a>: Yes, it does make sense.  Although where Toni Morrison&#8217;s novels are concerned, I prefer <em>Beloved</em>.  <em>The Bluest Eye</em>was just so heart rending for me, and as it was  my first Morrison, I wasn&#8217;t prepared for that.</p>
<p>I know what you mean about how novels that require work of us can still be really great.  And I think the writing in <em>Black Silk</em> is some of the genre&#8217;s finest, so I hope readers take a chance on it despite my words of caution.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-225585" rel="nofollow">bettie</a>: Great to see you here! The effort involved in reading <em>Black Silk</em> surprised me this time around.  I think the first time I read it, I finished it in two or three days, which isn&#8217;t slow for me, especially considering that it is a long book.  I was so fascinated with nearly everyone in the book and that interest carried me along like a wave.  This time, I remembered  the characters pretty well, and their originality didn&#8217;t come as a surprise, so I had to expend more effort in the reading process.  And since that took some of the thrill away for me, I have to wonder if I&#8217;ve become intellectually lazy, or conditioned to expect the thrill of newness every time I read.</p>
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		<title>By: bettie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bettie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review! This book is one of my favorites, too, partly because it was such a different reading experience. I wasn&#039;t used to romance novels expecting effort from me. Usually I am just carried along by the narrative. Not so, with &lt;em&gt;Black Silk&lt;/em&gt;. I didn&#039;t tear through it the way I usually do, but the act of reading it felt leisurely and contemplative, and altogether different from usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review! This book is one of my favorites, too, partly because it was such a different reading experience. I wasn&#8217;t used to romance novels expecting effort from me. Usually I am just carried along by the narrative. Not so, with <em>Black Silk</em>. I didn&#8217;t tear through it the way I usually do, but the act of reading it felt leisurely and contemplative, and altogether different from usual.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This review reminds me of my reaction to Toni Morrison&#039;s The Bluest Eye. It was brilliant in every way except for narrative drive. That&#039;s why reading is so wonderful. You can get so many different things from a book. From The Bluest Eye, I learned a whole new appreciation of literature. Literature as a craft, as a deeply thought out process where every comma, every word, every page is a means to a very deliberate end. And I also learned that I, as the reader, is sometimes asked to bring something to a book too - the slight impetus to keep reading to make up for the lacking narrative drive for example. And then the realization that reading a book can be a collaboration between writer and reader. And that&#039;s why the book, while not my favorite book, is the most resonant. For a few hours, Toni Morrison and I were partners, glorying in the written word. I hope this makes sense. But your review really made me think of how intricate an experience reading a book can be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review reminds me of my reaction to Toni Morrison&#8217;s The Bluest Eye. It was brilliant in every way except for narrative drive. That&#8217;s why reading is so wonderful. You can get so many different things from a book. From The Bluest Eye, I learned a whole new appreciation of literature. Literature as a craft, as a deeply thought out process where every comma, every word, every page is a means to a very deliberate end. And I also learned that I, as the reader, is sometimes asked to bring something to a book too &#8211; the slight impetus to keep reading to make up for the lacking narrative drive for example. And then the realization that reading a book can be a collaboration between writer and reader. And that&#8217;s why the book, while not my favorite book, is the most resonant. For a few hours, Toni Morrison and I were partners, glorying in the written word. I hope this makes sense. But your review really made me think of how intricate an experience reading a book can be!</p>
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		<title>By: Black Silk Discussion Tomorrow at 7:00pm EST &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Silk Discussion Tomorrow at 7:00pm EST &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Janine and Robin posted a terrific back to back reflections on the book over at Dear Author yesterday. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This book was provided to the reviewer by either the author or publisher. The reviewer did not pay for this book but received it free. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually not true in this case. When I first read it in 2001, I bought a used copy of the Judy Cuevas version.  Later I purchased the Avon paperback new (when it was out new in mass market).  For this review, I bought the ebook.</description>
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<p>Actually not true in this case. When I first read it in 2001, I bought a used copy of the Judy Cuevas version.  Later I purchased the Avon paperback new (when it was out new in mass market).  For this review, I bought the ebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.racyromancereviews.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Racy Romance Reviews&lt;/a&gt; is holding a discussion of this book this Sunday at 7 PM EST, for anyone who is interested.</description>
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