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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE this book so much and i&#039;m desperate for the sequel! Out Of The Ashes is unavaiable at Amazon! has it been realeased already or it&#039;s been only announced? please, someone answer!!! I must buy the sequel!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE this book so much and i&#8217;m desperate for the sequel! Out Of The Ashes is unavaiable at Amazon! has it been realeased already or it&#8217;s been only announced? please, someone answer!!! I must buy the sequel!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting your thoughts, Matthew.  For me, seven years (the length of the age gap) seems like a signifcant timespan for a sixteen year old -- almost half of his life.  I understand what you are saying, but I can only rely on my own responses to a book when writing reviews. I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting your thoughts, Matthew.  For me, seven years (the length of the age gap) seems like a signifcant timespan for a sixteen year old &#8212; almost half of his life.  I understand what you are saying, but I can only rely on my own responses to a book when writing reviews. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished reading this book on my Kindle, and am VERY happy to know that the sequel is on it&#039;s way from R W Day.  I also reviewed this book on Shelfari, and I&#039;m not sure I share your misgivings about either the world building or the age difference.

About the age, I think you are looking at it from a modern perspective, where age of consent is a hard 18.  In pioneer times, just like in Napoleonic Law, 12 was the age of consent.  And I also point you to Europe and some states in the US, where adult hood IS 18, but the age of consent is 16.  You can engage in relations with someone under 18 as long as they are over 16.

This is how I viewed the world of ASASF.  They still had hang overs from the society that came before, but like a true pioneer world, they were moving back to an understanding that in a harsh world, people grow up fast.  David is only 17 at the end of the book, but his actions have made clear to the towns folk he is an adult, and no one gainsays him that right.

Because he is young, they want to make sure he is truly ready, but once they understand, they accept his adulthood.

I just &lt;em&gt;understand&lt;/em&gt; that view point.  Living as I do now in New Zealand where a bit of that pioneer spirit still lives, as long as the parent&#039;s don&#039;t feel thier child is being abused, we all accept relationships between 16 year olds and people in there 20s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reading this book on my Kindle, and am VERY happy to know that the sequel is on it&#8217;s way from R W Day.  I also reviewed this book on Shelfari, and I&#8217;m not sure I share your misgivings about either the world building or the age difference.</p>
<p>About the age, I think you are looking at it from a modern perspective, where age of consent is a hard 18.  In pioneer times, just like in Napoleonic Law, 12 was the age of consent.  And I also point you to Europe and some states in the US, where adult hood IS 18, but the age of consent is 16.  You can engage in relations with someone under 18 as long as they are over 16.</p>
<p>This is how I viewed the world of ASASF.  They still had hang overs from the society that came before, but like a true pioneer world, they were moving back to an understanding that in a harsh world, people grow up fast.  David is only 17 at the end of the book, but his actions have made clear to the towns folk he is an adult, and no one gainsays him that right.</p>
<p>Because he is young, they want to make sure he is truly ready, but once they understand, they accept his adulthood.</p>
<p>I just <em>understand</em> that view point.  Living as I do now in New Zealand where a bit of that pioneer spirit still lives, as long as the parent&#8217;s don&#8217;t feel thier child is being abused, we all accept relationships between 16 year olds and people in there 20s</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, I hope you enjoy it too.  Both covers are nice IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, I hope you enjoy it too.  Both covers are nice IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had this book on my WL for a while but haven&#039;t bought it yet - I lean more towards contemporary and paranormal than futuristic fiction, as a rule, so there is always something else I&#039;m more interested in reading than this book. But I&#039;ll get there eventually. This cover is beautifully done but I liked the old one better, mostly because this one emphasizes how young the characters are when I prefer to read about characters that are 30-ish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this book on my WL for a while but haven&#8217;t bought it yet &#8211; I lean more towards contemporary and paranormal than futuristic fiction, as a rule, so there is always something else I&#8217;m more interested in reading than this book. But I&#8217;ll get there eventually. This cover is beautifully done but I liked the old one better, mostly because this one emphasizes how young the characters are when I prefer to read about characters that are 30-ish.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you enjoy the book, CS.</description>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
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		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate that gay fiction books are so pricey. However, your review sold me and will buy myself a Lethe copy when I get paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate that gay fiction books are so pricey. However, your review sold me and will buy myself a Lethe copy when I get paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love both covers for this book. I wish more covers were along this style. I also loved the story and thought it was an evocative and vivid piece of world-building (I could just about feel the cold myself), and the love story is just lovely and romantic. I&#039;m still hoping we&#039;ll have the sequel soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love both covers for this book. I wish more covers were along this style. I also loved the story and thought it was an evocative and vivid piece of world-building (I could just about feel the cold myself), and the love story is just lovely and romantic. I&#8217;m still hoping we&#8217;ll have the sequel soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Janine, for reviewing this book. I&#039;m really glad Lethe could bring the book back into print -- part of Lethe&#039;s mission to readers and writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Janine, for reviewing this book. I&#8217;m really glad Lethe could bring the book back into print &#8212; part of Lethe&#8217;s mission to readers and writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got the Iris version on my keeper shelf, but I do like Anne Cain&#039;s cover here *much* better. I&#039;m glad other people got a second chance to read Becky&#039;s wonderful book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got the Iris version on my keeper shelf, but I do like Anne Cain&#8217;s cover here *much* better. I&#8217;m glad other people got a second chance to read Becky&#8217;s wonderful book.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, DS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, DS.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reviewing this.  I had been tempted after reading a sample but I had held off due to the publishing problem.  Now I can go ahead and order it with a clear conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reviewing this.  I had been tempted after reading a sample but I had held off due to the publishing problem.  Now I can go ahead and order it with a clear conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lesley W&lt;/strong&gt; -- R.W. Day &lt;a href=&quot;http://rwday.wordpress.com/novels-in-progress/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mentions on her website&lt;/a&gt; that there is indeed a sequel in the offing:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Out of the Ashes (SF) - this sequel to A Strong and Sudden Thaw continues David and Callan&#039;s story, taking them far from sleepy Moline into new challenges, and new dangers. Status - draft complete, in revision.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Re. David&#039;s being old enough to marry in his society, I thought that he was old enough to be expected to begin courting at sixteen, not necessarily old enough to marry immediately.  And yeah, on the one hand there were signals that he was close to adulthood as far as the residents of Moline were concerened, but there were also signals to the contrary, like David&#039;s complaints that he wasn&#039;t viewed as a grown man, and the insinuation that Callan might have corrupted a child.  

It was very much a coming-of-age story, and I suspect that was the reason Day didn&#039;t make David older.  Because if he really was an adult for all intents and purposes, why not just make the character eighteen or older?  I felt the author wanted to have it both ways -- have him adult enough for sex, but young enough for other things.

&lt;strong&gt;Rachel &lt;/strong&gt;- I don&#039;t know the publication status of the sequel but I too was very glad to see that  the book was picked up by another publisher.

&lt;strong&gt;Cathy&lt;/strong&gt; - The inconsistencies in the world building occurred to me, but I was caught up in the story enough not to care that much about them.   I thought that wrapping up the romance but not everyhing else was a good way to set up a sequel, because if nothing had been wrapped up I would have been dissatisfied.   I do agree though that it&#039;s not a perfect book, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lesley W</strong> &#8212; R.W. Day <a href="http://rwday.wordpress.com/novels-in-progress/" rel="nofollow">mentions on her website</a> that there is indeed a sequel in the offing:</p>
<blockquote><p>Out of the Ashes (SF) &#8211; this sequel to A Strong and Sudden Thaw continues David and Callan&#39;s story, taking them far from sleepy Moline into new challenges, and new dangers. Status &#8211; draft complete, in revision.</p></blockquote>
<p>Re. David&#8217;s being old enough to marry in his society, I thought that he was old enough to be expected to begin courting at sixteen, not necessarily old enough to marry immediately.  And yeah, on the one hand there were signals that he was close to adulthood as far as the residents of Moline were concerened, but there were also signals to the contrary, like David&#8217;s complaints that he wasn&#8217;t viewed as a grown man, and the insinuation that Callan might have corrupted a child.  </p>
<p>It was very much a coming-of-age story, and I suspect that was the reason Day didn&#8217;t make David older.  Because if he really was an adult for all intents and purposes, why not just make the character eighteen or older?  I felt the author wanted to have it both ways &#8212; have him adult enough for sex, but young enough for other things.</p>
<p><strong>Rachel </strong>- I don&#8217;t know the publication status of the sequel but I too was very glad to see that  the book was picked up by another publisher.</p>
<p><strong>Cathy</strong> &#8211; The inconsistencies in the world building occurred to me, but I was caught up in the story enough not to care that much about them.   I thought that wrapping up the romance but not everyhing else was a good way to set up a sequel, because if nothing had been wrapped up I would have been dissatisfied.   I do agree though that it&#8217;s not a perfect book, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this book about 2 years ago, and my immediate reaction after finishing was &quot;wow, that was really good.&quot;  Unfortunately, the more I thought about it, though, the more dissatisfied I was with parts of the book.  I think the world-building was pretty sloppy; Day had a really neat idea, but I don&#039;t think it was mapped out very well and the inconsistencies frustrated me.  I was also confused that the romance (which I did really enjoy, and thought was well done) seemed to wrap up neatly in the single novel, but there were quite a few loose ends hanging in the breeze that appeared to be sequel bait.  

I did like the romance, and in general the idea of a post-apocalyptic Virginia was neat (probably because I live in central Virginia), and I agree that the characters were all 3-dimensional, with clear voices and personalities, which was a nice change from many other books. 

I&#039;m not sorry I read the book; it&#039;s on my keeper shelf, and I&#039;ll definitely read the sequel when its published, but I think for me it was a B+ for the romance and characters, and a C world-building and other issues.

(BTW, I know Iris turned out to be shady and cheated Day out of her earnings, but I really did love the cover on their edition; it&#039;s what drew me to the book in the first place.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this book about 2 years ago, and my immediate reaction after finishing was &#8220;wow, that was really good.&#8221;  Unfortunately, the more I thought about it, though, the more dissatisfied I was with parts of the book.  I think the world-building was pretty sloppy; Day had a really neat idea, but I don&#8217;t think it was mapped out very well and the inconsistencies frustrated me.  I was also confused that the romance (which I did really enjoy, and thought was well done) seemed to wrap up neatly in the single novel, but there were quite a few loose ends hanging in the breeze that appeared to be sequel bait.  </p>
<p>I did like the romance, and in general the idea of a post-apocalyptic Virginia was neat (probably because I live in central Virginia), and I agree that the characters were all 3-dimensional, with clear voices and personalities, which was a nice change from many other books. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sorry I read the book; it&#8217;s on my keeper shelf, and I&#8217;ll definitely read the sequel when its published, but I think for me it was a B+ for the romance and characters, and a C world-building and other issues.</p>
<p>(BTW, I know Iris turned out to be shady and cheated Day out of her earnings, but I really did love the cover on their edition; it&#8217;s what drew me to the book in the first place.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, how exciting that Thaw has been picked up by a new publisher! I love this book so much - one of my absolute favourite m/m romances. And I know that Day has written a sequel, so hopefully this means that it will finally be published (oh happy day!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, how exciting that Thaw has been picked up by a new publisher! I love this book so much &#8211; one of my absolute favourite m/m romances. And I know that Day has written a sequel, so hopefully this means that it will finally be published (oh happy day!)</p>
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		<title>By: LesleyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>LesleyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was one of my favourite books from last year. And I hope that R W Day will perhaps write a sequel, as it&#039;s kind of hinted at that the story is being told by a much older David.

I think David&#039;s maturity is somewhat addressed by the fact that it is clear that due to the harsh circumstances in which the characters live - following the apocalypse -children become adult much sooner. And that if David hadn&#039;t ended up with Callan, he was expected to marry the girl from town. 

This is one of the books I&#039;d recommend for anyone thinking of trying out a m/m book. The love scenes whilst erotic and beautifully written aren&#039;t graphic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one of my favourite books from last year. And I hope that R W Day will perhaps write a sequel, as it&#8217;s kind of hinted at that the story is being told by a much older David.</p>
<p>I think David&#8217;s maturity is somewhat addressed by the fact that it is clear that due to the harsh circumstances in which the characters live &#8211; following the apocalypse -children become adult much sooner. And that if David hadn&#8217;t ended up with Callan, he was expected to marry the girl from town. </p>
<p>This is one of the books I&#8217;d recommend for anyone thinking of trying out a m/m book. The love scenes whilst erotic and beautifully written aren&#8217;t graphic.</p>
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