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		<title>By: MB72</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/features/poll-misc/reader-expectation-poll-suzanne-brockmann-edition/#comment-201754</link>
		<dc:creator>MB72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Been reading this morning all about the contraversy that surrounded DON, months after I read the book itself. Will just add my own two cents instead of commenting on all the various complaints, theories, diatribes and rants that I have read and either agreed or disagreed with. I have read all the books, and have followed all the relationships very closely.  I have loved certain characters, basically just rushed through others when they didn&#039;t appeal to me as much, but loved the ride all the same.  Two books ago I would have claimed to be a Sophia/Decker fan, and was interested to see what their story was going to be like.  But, I thought DON was great. First off, half the the time I love the friendships in SB&#039;s books even better than the love angles.  I LOVE Decker and Jimmy, Izzy and Mark, Lindsey and Tracy.  They make me laugh, and cry.  This book was filled with friends making each other grow and be better human beings. That said, I felt fond of Dave for the first time. He made alpha males love him in this book, but remained true to who he was. I loved Jimmy opening up to Tess, and Sam. Deck and Tracy I totally bought and SB made me grow to really like Tracy over four books or so. In my mind, while the book did have to jump around a lot in order to get it all in, I thoroughly enjoyed the ride and the growth of so many characters.  Worth the read to me!  My only issue is I am wishing the next book was based on a new couple, not Sam and Alyssa even though everyone loves them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Been reading this morning all about the contraversy that surrounded DON, months after I read the book itself. Will just add my own two cents instead of commenting on all the various complaints, theories, diatribes and rants that I have read and either agreed or disagreed with. I have read all the books, and have followed all the relationships very closely.  I have loved certain characters, basically just rushed through others when they didn&#8217;t appeal to me as much, but loved the ride all the same.  Two books ago I would have claimed to be a Sophia/Decker fan, and was interested to see what their story was going to be like.  But, I thought DON was great. First off, half the the time I love the friendships in SB&#8217;s books even better than the love angles.  I LOVE Decker and Jimmy, Izzy and Mark, Lindsey and Tracy.  They make me laugh, and cry.  This book was filled with friends making each other grow and be better human beings. That said, I felt fond of Dave for the first time. He made alpha males love him in this book, but remained true to who he was. I loved Jimmy opening up to Tess, and Sam. Deck and Tracy I totally bought and SB made me grow to really like Tracy over four books or so. In my mind, while the book did have to jump around a lot in order to get it all in, I thoroughly enjoyed the ride and the growth of so many characters.  Worth the read to me!  My only issue is I am wishing the next book was based on a new couple, not Sam and Alyssa even though everyone loves them!</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/features/poll-misc/reader-expectation-poll-suzanne-brockmann-edition/#comment-201191</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GrowlyCub, your post makes sense.  I am admit to just picking up DoN as a casual fan from the library--not having heard about any of the controversy over Dave/Sophia/Decker but I was surprised by this &quot;twist&quot; because to me, the twist felt forced--as did the relationship between Decker/Tracy.  It just felt odd and maybe I wasn&#039;t one of the small group of people, but as a casual fan, I was taken aback, so I feel the author had to have known a lot of her readers (who follow her series) would be surprised--and probably not happy.  I do think knowing that some of her readers invested so much in her characters, there would be repercussions.  I admit, it had definitely made me more leery of picking up a Brockmann book to be honest--this entire book felt forced and didn&#039;t flow the way her earlier books flowed--that is more my criticism though I also agree she didn&#039;t sell me on the Sophia/Dave relationship--to me if she went that route, she should&#039;ve started where they are forced together and we see the arc shift rather than throw them in bed due to grieving over Nash.  Huh?  It made no sense to me and again, felt forced rather than a natural progression.  

I also feel the author shouldn&#039;t criticize her fans for being upset.  I wouldn&#039;t say I was a big fan, like I said I had read a few of her earlier books, and if i had actually bought the book (vs library where I got my copy) I would probably want my money back--partly because the romance genre is about happy endings--and this book definitely didn&#039;t feel happy at the end.  =)  

Her comment (below) I think is wrong.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a small group of people disgruntled.  I think it&#039;s a lot of them, just not everyone goes online to post opinions.  It&#039;s probably the majority of them and again, she could&#039;ve pulled it off if the book had sold the new relationships, but the book didn&#039;t do that for me at least.

â€œI know that there&#039;s been noise about DARK OF NIGHT, but from what I understand -&#039; without soiling myself too completely in the ugliness -&#039; that noise has been from just a relatively small group of disgruntled people -&#039; who seem to have more of a beef with me than with the book. â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrowlyCub, your post makes sense.  I am admit to just picking up DoN as a casual fan from the library&#8211;not having heard about any of the controversy over Dave/Sophia/Decker but I was surprised by this &#8220;twist&#8221; because to me, the twist felt forced&#8211;as did the relationship between Decker/Tracy.  It just felt odd and maybe I wasn&#8217;t one of the small group of people, but as a casual fan, I was taken aback, so I feel the author had to have known a lot of her readers (who follow her series) would be surprised&#8211;and probably not happy.  I do think knowing that some of her readers invested so much in her characters, there would be repercussions.  I admit, it had definitely made me more leery of picking up a Brockmann book to be honest&#8211;this entire book felt forced and didn&#8217;t flow the way her earlier books flowed&#8211;that is more my criticism though I also agree she didn&#8217;t sell me on the Sophia/Dave relationship&#8211;to me if she went that route, she should&#8217;ve started where they are forced together and we see the arc shift rather than throw them in bed due to grieving over Nash.  Huh?  It made no sense to me and again, felt forced rather than a natural progression.  </p>
<p>I also feel the author shouldn&#8217;t criticize her fans for being upset.  I wouldn&#8217;t say I was a big fan, like I said I had read a few of her earlier books, and if i had actually bought the book (vs library where I got my copy) I would probably want my money back&#8211;partly because the romance genre is about happy endings&#8211;and this book definitely didn&#8217;t feel happy at the end.  =)  </p>
<p>Her comment (below) I think is wrong.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a small group of people disgruntled.  I think it&#8217;s a lot of them, just not everyone goes online to post opinions.  It&#8217;s probably the majority of them and again, she could&#8217;ve pulled it off if the book had sold the new relationships, but the book didn&#8217;t do that for me at least.</p>
<p>â€œI know that there&#39;s been noise about DARK OF NIGHT, but from what I understand -&#8217; without soiling myself too completely in the ugliness -&#8217; that noise has been from just a relatively small group of disgruntled people -&#8217; who seem to have more of a beef with me than with the book. â€</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was shocked to discover it was not Decker and Sophia in Dark of Night--having read it I still feel that she chose the wrong couple.  No offense, as it is her story to write, but I was disappointed with the story overall, not just the fact that is was Dave/Sophia instead.  I thought the book itself wasn&#039;t very exciting and for me, it didn&#039;t have an emotional arc the way some of Ms Brockmann&#039;s other books do.

I am not angry like dome, but like I said, I am disappointed both by the choices made and to be honest, by the overall book calibre compared to some of her earlier works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked to discover it was not Decker and Sophia in Dark of Night&#8211;having read it I still feel that she chose the wrong couple.  No offense, as it is her story to write, but I was disappointed with the story overall, not just the fact that is was Dave/Sophia instead.  I thought the book itself wasn&#8217;t very exciting and for me, it didn&#8217;t have an emotional arc the way some of Ms Brockmann&#8217;s other books do.</p>
<p>I am not angry like dome, but like I said, I am disappointed both by the choices made and to be honest, by the overall book calibre compared to some of her earlier works.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>March 11:  About Ms Brockman&#039;s last book Dark Of night, I am one of the Sophia/Decker fan.  I love the troubleshooters serie, but was specially hooked to the dark and heart-breaking subplot of Soph and Deck thanks to the wonderful and extremely talented Ms. Brockman,  I was totally invested  in thoses characters. I know i should get a life.  But I also have experienced tragedy as I lost my 16 yrs son in a fire.  So I somehow identified with Sophia (`which I know is only a novel character&#039;).  However the joy the books gave me helped me with somewhat  escaping to a more joyful world.  I waited 5 years for  DON as I thought it  was going to bring Soph and Decker together.  I knew it would be no small feat for an author as both characters were so complex and intense. But for me Ms Brockman is a master in developping character and bringing anyone to a better life.  I love Jules and Robin best.  The relationship of Jules, Robin and Sam is hylarious. Anyway after reading the book, to my husband&#039;s dismay I felt crushed.  ANd it&#039;s RIDICULOUS!! I felt cheated.  But such is life.  It is bad, even in books.  So, I am going to write my own version of Soph/ Deck HEA. PLEASE forgive my typing. It sucks.  So Ms. Brockman Thank you to encourage me to write.  Anyway I love your politics and I am pro-gay marriage.  Robin is such a joyful and giving character, I could adopt him.( but he is only a book character!!)  ms. Brockman you are an excellent writer!!!  Christiane ( I am from France),</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 11:  About Ms Brockman&#8217;s last book Dark Of night, I am one of the Sophia/Decker fan.  I love the troubleshooters serie, but was specially hooked to the dark and heart-breaking subplot of Soph and Deck thanks to the wonderful and extremely talented Ms. Brockman,  I was totally invested  in thoses characters. I know i should get a life.  But I also have experienced tragedy as I lost my 16 yrs son in a fire.  So I somehow identified with Sophia (`which I know is only a novel character&#8217;).  However the joy the books gave me helped me with somewhat  escaping to a more joyful world.  I waited 5 years for  DON as I thought it  was going to bring Soph and Decker together.  I knew it would be no small feat for an author as both characters were so complex and intense. But for me Ms Brockman is a master in developping character and bringing anyone to a better life.  I love Jules and Robin best.  The relationship of Jules, Robin and Sam is hylarious. Anyway after reading the book, to my husband&#8217;s dismay I felt crushed.  ANd it&#8217;s RIDICULOUS!! I felt cheated.  But such is life.  It is bad, even in books.  So, I am going to write my own version of Soph/ Deck HEA. PLEASE forgive my typing. It sucks.  So Ms. Brockman Thank you to encourage me to write.  Anyway I love your politics and I am pro-gay marriage.  Robin is such a joyful and giving character, I could adopt him.( but he is only a book character!!)  ms. Brockman you are an excellent writer!!!  Christiane ( I am from France),</p>
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		<title>By: GrowlyCub</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrowlyCub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word, Robin.  But being a mouthy little thing I have a few more comments.

As somebody, who only slogged through all the suspense to see where the Sophia/Decker relationship was going (after listening to Hot Target with my husband on a road trip) and only for that relationship originally, I&#039;d have to say I didn&#039;t have any inkling until the book immediately preceeding DoN that she was not going to explore that relationship, as difficult as it would have been.  

She&#039;s saying they would never have worked and that she couldn&#039;t believe that anybody thought they would have a healthy relationship, but the whole point for me in reading these books was to see how she, the author, could get these two so very damaged people together after setting up a 4 or 5 book arc.  It&#039;s a testament to her writing that she got me interested enough in them as a couple that I read forward first and then went back and read the earlier TSI books, when I detest romantic suspense and make a practice of staying far, far away.  She made me care about the other couples along the way, some more than others.

I totally agree that an author shouldn&#039;t write a book if it doesn&#039;t feel right, if the coupling, even if previously planned, didn&#039;t work or if she planned it differently from the start, or should try to write a book her readers seem to demand, but I also think an author is selling a commodity, even if it&#039;s a work of art, and I cannot help but cringe when I see her dismiss and insult her readers wholesale like that.  And I think it&#039;s worse because the readers she insults are not the casual folks or &#039;literary&#039; critics, but long-time fans who only were disappointed *because* they cared so much.  If people didn&#039;t give a flip, there would have been no discussion months in advance.

The whole post strikes me as a very bad PR move, even though I&#039;m sure she felt vindicated after writing it.

Besides the homophobia comment, the opening comment was also pretty ugly as far as I&#039;m concerned:

&quot;I know that there&#039;s been noise about DARK OF NIGHT, but from what I understand -- without soiling myself too completely in the ugliness -- that noise has been from just a relatively small group of disgruntled people -- who seem to have more of a beef with me than with the book. &quot; (from the Barnes and Nobel Q&amp;A linked above).

As you said, if it really was such a small number, why not just ignore them.  I&#039;m afraid this falls under &#039;authors behaving badly&#039; in my book.

I still want to see if she managed to pull it off, but I can&#039;t get past chapter 2 and I wish I hadn&#039;t read her comment because now I have that negative reaction about her when trying to read the book, but I still want to know if her craft could carry me through the disappointment, which seems a contradiction, but I still care about the characters.

Is this a tempest in a teapot, should people get a life and get over it, since this is only a fictional story?  Possibly, but a writer cannot court readers on the one hand, wanting them to connect and then complain when they do.  Well, she can, but in my opinion she ought not to, because she&#039;s creating ill-will, possibly only with the &#039;few&#039; disgruntled readers, but possibly with others who did not dislike DoN as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word, Robin.  But being a mouthy little thing I have a few more comments.</p>
<p>As somebody, who only slogged through all the suspense to see where the Sophia/Decker relationship was going (after listening to Hot Target with my husband on a road trip) and only for that relationship originally, I&#8217;d have to say I didn&#8217;t have any inkling until the book immediately preceeding DoN that she was not going to explore that relationship, as difficult as it would have been.  </p>
<p>She&#8217;s saying they would never have worked and that she couldn&#8217;t believe that anybody thought they would have a healthy relationship, but the whole point for me in reading these books was to see how she, the author, could get these two so very damaged people together after setting up a 4 or 5 book arc.  It&#8217;s a testament to her writing that she got me interested enough in them as a couple that I read forward first and then went back and read the earlier TSI books, when I detest romantic suspense and make a practice of staying far, far away.  She made me care about the other couples along the way, some more than others.</p>
<p>I totally agree that an author shouldn&#8217;t write a book if it doesn&#8217;t feel right, if the coupling, even if previously planned, didn&#8217;t work or if she planned it differently from the start, or should try to write a book her readers seem to demand, but I also think an author is selling a commodity, even if it&#8217;s a work of art, and I cannot help but cringe when I see her dismiss and insult her readers wholesale like that.  And I think it&#8217;s worse because the readers she insults are not the casual folks or &#8216;literary&#8217; critics, but long-time fans who only were disappointed *because* they cared so much.  If people didn&#8217;t give a flip, there would have been no discussion months in advance.</p>
<p>The whole post strikes me as a very bad PR move, even though I&#8217;m sure she felt vindicated after writing it.</p>
<p>Besides the homophobia comment, the opening comment was also pretty ugly as far as I&#8217;m concerned:</p>
<p>&#8220;I know that there&#8217;s been noise about DARK OF NIGHT, but from what I understand &#8212; without soiling myself too completely in the ugliness &#8212; that noise has been from just a relatively small group of disgruntled people &#8212; who seem to have more of a beef with me than with the book. &#8221; (from the Barnes and Nobel Q&amp;A linked above).</p>
<p>As you said, if it really was such a small number, why not just ignore them.  I&#8217;m afraid this falls under &#8216;authors behaving badly&#8217; in my book.</p>
<p>I still want to see if she managed to pull it off, but I can&#8217;t get past chapter 2 and I wish I hadn&#8217;t read her comment because now I have that negative reaction about her when trying to read the book, but I still want to know if her craft could carry me through the disappointment, which seems a contradiction, but I still care about the characters.</p>
<p>Is this a tempest in a teapot, should people get a life and get over it, since this is only a fictional story?  Possibly, but a writer cannot court readers on the one hand, wanting them to connect and then complain when they do.  Well, she can, but in my opinion she ought not to, because she&#8217;s creating ill-will, possibly only with the &#8216;few&#8217; disgruntled readers, but possibly with others who did not dislike DoN as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seattle is a very polite city and I think we were all startled at her reply to the girl you&#039;re talking about, but on balance, I think it was a wise response. I hope it did the job Gabaldon intended it to do, which was to snap this girl out of what sounded like a very unhealthy obsession. Gabaldon is (was) a university professsor by vocation and she is well used to taking control of a classroom of misbehaving undergraduates and telling them some home truths.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry about the late response, but I just saw this.

Having had to wrangle my own share of undergraduate classes myself, one of my first lessons was how much more power you have as a professor than you do as a student.  However, due to the kinds of insecurities everyone has, but in particular, I think, academics who aren&#039;t used to holding broad-based authority and respectability, that balance can sometimes seem flipped, and the professor can feel at the mercy of his or her students.  And ignore the incredibly high levels of sensitivity many of these undergraduates possess, even as their affect shows something else entirely.  And I say that as someone who is quite blunt in a teaching situation, because I think clarity is really important in an academic setting, where students are measuring their expectations against mine.

Obviously, I wasn&#039;t at the reading, so my reaction is based on the hearsay rendition of Gabaldon&#039;s comments.  But based on that rendition, I&#039;m still somewhat appalled by the way those &quot;home truths&quot; were dispensed.  Not only because the story will eventually circulate into forums like this one (and who knows how all the rest of the attendees reacted, since you won&#039;t see everyone&#039;s response on their face), but also because I don&#039;t think humiliating someone is the best way to get them to listen to you.  And it sounds like that&#039;s what she was doing, inadvertently or not.  Of course, in the re-telling,we miss the tone and the exact wording, and all that subtle coding one&#039;s body delivers in concert with the words themselves, but still . . .  it feels unnecessarily and inefficiently extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seattle is a very polite city and I think we were all startled at her reply to the girl you&#39;re talking about, but on balance, I think it was a wise response. I hope it did the job Gabaldon intended it to do, which was to snap this girl out of what sounded like a very unhealthy obsession. Gabaldon is (was) a university professsor by vocation and she is well used to taking control of a classroom of misbehaving undergraduates and telling them some home truths.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry about the late response, but I just saw this.</p>
<p>Having had to wrangle my own share of undergraduate classes myself, one of my first lessons was how much more power you have as a professor than you do as a student.  However, due to the kinds of insecurities everyone has, but in particular, I think, academics who aren&#8217;t used to holding broad-based authority and respectability, that balance can sometimes seem flipped, and the professor can feel at the mercy of his or her students.  And ignore the incredibly high levels of sensitivity many of these undergraduates possess, even as their affect shows something else entirely.  And I say that as someone who is quite blunt in a teaching situation, because I think clarity is really important in an academic setting, where students are measuring their expectations against mine.</p>
<p>Obviously, I wasn&#8217;t at the reading, so my reaction is based on the hearsay rendition of Gabaldon&#8217;s comments.  But based on that rendition, I&#8217;m still somewhat appalled by the way those &#8220;home truths&#8221; were dispensed.  Not only because the story will eventually circulate into forums like this one (and who knows how all the rest of the attendees reacted, since you won&#8217;t see everyone&#8217;s response on their face), but also because I don&#8217;t think humiliating someone is the best way to get them to listen to you.  And it sounds like that&#8217;s what she was doing, inadvertently or not.  Of course, in the re-telling,we miss the tone and the exact wording, and all that subtle coding one&#8217;s body delivers in concert with the words themselves, but still . . .  it feels unnecessarily and inefficiently extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the AAR thread, I see there was some trouble a while back on Brockmann&#039;s BB, but the problem for me is, how many people reading that BN thread even know about that?  It&#039;s like she&#039;s got this whole context she&#039;s bringing to those comments that to the readers like me for whom this issue is wholly new is a big WTF.  

At this point, I think the person who really needs to internalize the message that the detracting views of the book don&#039;t matter in the large scheme of things is Brockmann herself, because her comments suggest to me just the opposite.  And I can&#039;t be the only reader who bristles at the &#039;well, look at all the people who LOVE the book!&#039; defense (oh, that&#039;s such a trigger for me, lol).  

Beyond the homophobia comment, which I suspect she didn&#039;t intend to use as a blunt instrument against every reader who disliked DON (again, I thin she&#039;s over-reading based on saturation in the world of her own BB and whatever people have told her), there are just a lot of backhanded slaps in that comment (and in a lot of the comments to questioners, IMO).  Look, I&#039;m the first person to suggest that an author should be in charge of her own work and process and apologize to no one about that.  But if you&#039;re the author who&#039;s worked like crazy to engage a dedicated and large fan base, then you&#039;ve got to be aware that you can&#039;t keep all those readers in line on every book.  And that the passionate fan-feelings can so easily become passionate disappointment.  So what do you do in the face of that?  It&#039;s a tough call, especially when you share a somewhat enmeshed connection with your fan base.  But if I were in charge of spinning Brockmann&#039;s public statements at this point, I&#039;d be advocating a respectful distance and neutral self-assertion of her rights as author.  For example:  &#039;I&#039;m so sorry you didn&#039;t like DON.  I wrote the best book I could and I am proud of it.  I always appreciate the dedication of my readers, and I hope the next book works better for you, should you choose to read it.&#039;  How about just, &#039;I understand you&#039;re disappointment and I&#039;m sorry.&#039;  

Re. the triangulation issue among Sophia, Dave, and Decker, I have to say that as a complete outsider to this relationship, reading Jane&#039;s review and the comments about &quot;superDave&quot; make me wonder how powerful the triangulation was for readers.  For example, the triangulation in the Stephanie Plum books between Ranger and Morelli has yielded really strong fan bases for both guys.  Did that happen with Brockmann, and if not, why not?  And I&#039;m NOT suggesting that Brockmann did or didn&#039;t do anything intentionally here, or that she&#039;s wrong in how she handled thing, just wondering how effectively the tension between Dave and Decker vis a vis Sophia played out, since for more than a few &quot;disgruntled&quot; readers it seems like Dave was never a serious contender for Sophia.  Is it possible that the triangulation was not as well defined as Brockmann seems to think it was, at least for a certain cohort of readers?  

I don&#039;t see any reason for Brockmann not to stand behind and actively defend the choices she made, but from the outside looking in, I don&#039;t see the value or effectiveness of dismissing readers who saw it differently as a way to do that.  Just speaking personally, an author telling me I didn&#039;t understand what she was doing is fast-tracking my dropping of her books from my TBR, because that&#039;s one of those things where the author is literally intruding on my reading experience and my right to independent interpretation, and that&#039;s definitely a line crosser for me.  And I just think it&#039;s unnecessary, since, as I said above, the author has the majority of power between herself and her readers, even when it doesn&#039;t feel that way to the author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the AAR thread, I see there was some trouble a while back on Brockmann&#8217;s BB, but the problem for me is, how many people reading that BN thread even know about that?  It&#8217;s like she&#8217;s got this whole context she&#8217;s bringing to those comments that to the readers like me for whom this issue is wholly new is a big WTF.  </p>
<p>At this point, I think the person who really needs to internalize the message that the detracting views of the book don&#8217;t matter in the large scheme of things is Brockmann herself, because her comments suggest to me just the opposite.  And I can&#8217;t be the only reader who bristles at the &#8216;well, look at all the people who LOVE the book!&#8217; defense (oh, that&#8217;s such a trigger for me, lol).  </p>
<p>Beyond the homophobia comment, which I suspect she didn&#8217;t intend to use as a blunt instrument against every reader who disliked DON (again, I thin she&#8217;s over-reading based on saturation in the world of her own BB and whatever people have told her), there are just a lot of backhanded slaps in that comment (and in a lot of the comments to questioners, IMO).  Look, I&#8217;m the first person to suggest that an author should be in charge of her own work and process and apologize to no one about that.  But if you&#8217;re the author who&#8217;s worked like crazy to engage a dedicated and large fan base, then you&#8217;ve got to be aware that you can&#8217;t keep all those readers in line on every book.  And that the passionate fan-feelings can so easily become passionate disappointment.  So what do you do in the face of that?  It&#8217;s a tough call, especially when you share a somewhat enmeshed connection with your fan base.  But if I were in charge of spinning Brockmann&#8217;s public statements at this point, I&#8217;d be advocating a respectful distance and neutral self-assertion of her rights as author.  For example:  &#8216;I&#8217;m so sorry you didn&#8217;t like DON.  I wrote the best book I could and I am proud of it.  I always appreciate the dedication of my readers, and I hope the next book works better for you, should you choose to read it.&#8217;  How about just, &#8216;I understand you&#8217;re disappointment and I&#8217;m sorry.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Re. the triangulation issue among Sophia, Dave, and Decker, I have to say that as a complete outsider to this relationship, reading Jane&#8217;s review and the comments about &#8220;superDave&#8221; make me wonder how powerful the triangulation was for readers.  For example, the triangulation in the Stephanie Plum books between Ranger and Morelli has yielded really strong fan bases for both guys.  Did that happen with Brockmann, and if not, why not?  And I&#8217;m NOT suggesting that Brockmann did or didn&#8217;t do anything intentionally here, or that she&#8217;s wrong in how she handled thing, just wondering how effectively the tension between Dave and Decker vis a vis Sophia played out, since for more than a few &#8220;disgruntled&#8221; readers it seems like Dave was never a serious contender for Sophia.  Is it possible that the triangulation was not as well defined as Brockmann seems to think it was, at least for a certain cohort of readers?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any reason for Brockmann not to stand behind and actively defend the choices she made, but from the outside looking in, I don&#8217;t see the value or effectiveness of dismissing readers who saw it differently as a way to do that.  Just speaking personally, an author telling me I didn&#8217;t understand what she was doing is fast-tracking my dropping of her books from my TBR, because that&#8217;s one of those things where the author is literally intruding on my reading experience and my right to independent interpretation, and that&#8217;s definitely a line crosser for me.  And I just think it&#8217;s unnecessary, since, as I said above, the author has the majority of power between herself and her readers, even when it doesn&#8217;t feel that way to the author.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190891&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ellie&lt;/a&gt; Yeah, the more that I think about that comment.  Oy. I try to give her the benefit of the doubt because I&#039;ve met her once and she seems to genuinely love her fans.  I&#039;d like to chalk this up to lack of sleep or something.

But her arguments do see a bit inconsistent. Like if the internet romance community is so small to be dismissed, why is she on BN doing a chat?  And if the readers that dislike the book are motivated by hate toward her and gays, why even respond to them?  

I hope that she doesn&#039;t believe that everyone who dislikes her books are a) homophobes or b) out to get her.  That totally contradicts her statement that a book can just not work for a reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-190891" rel="nofollow">Ellie</a> Yeah, the more that I think about that comment.  Oy. I try to give her the benefit of the doubt because I&#8217;ve met her once and she seems to genuinely love her fans.  I&#8217;d like to chalk this up to lack of sleep or something.</p>
<p>But her arguments do see a bit inconsistent. Like if the internet romance community is so small to be dismissed, why is she on BN doing a chat?  And if the readers that dislike the book are motivated by hate toward her and gays, why even respond to them?  </p>
<p>I hope that she doesn&#8217;t believe that everyone who dislikes her books are a) homophobes or b) out to get her.  That totally contradicts her statement that a book can just not work for a reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane,  I was reacting just to the paragraph you quoted.  The rest is dismissive to readers, and probably terrible pr,  but it doesn&#039;t offend me.  On the other hand, implying that people who disagree with you are homophobes is something I find deeply offensive.  I just don&#039;t understand why SB would even go there, even if she was misinformed. And if there is some information that the people who spoke out against DoN are doing so because of her stand on gay rights (and I have seen no evidence of this) she still should not have posted that, because more than that person is going to read her response on B &amp; N.   This is going to be seen by many, many people and ascribing those kind of motives to people, when Jules and Robin barely appear in the book, makes little sense, and just makes her appear small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,  I was reacting just to the paragraph you quoted.  The rest is dismissive to readers, and probably terrible pr,  but it doesn&#8217;t offend me.  On the other hand, implying that people who disagree with you are homophobes is something I find deeply offensive.  I just don&#8217;t understand why SB would even go there, even if she was misinformed. And if there is some information that the people who spoke out against DoN are doing so because of her stand on gay rights (and I have seen no evidence of this) she still should not have posted that, because more than that person is going to read her response on B &amp; N.   This is going to be seen by many, many people and ascribing those kind of motives to people, when Jules and Robin barely appear in the book, makes little sense, and just makes her appear small.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190872&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;: I expected the comment to be much worse, but yes, it does make me uncomfortable when authors marginalize a reader&#039;s voice, impute motives behind a reader&#039;s opinions (something readers get KILLED for doing), especially for some sexually distasteful motive; and suggest that people are stalking her around online and that only if you don&#039;t like her or Jules could not like the book.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&amp;thread.id=4383&amp;view=by_date_ascending&amp;page=11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is pretty bad:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;And I know that the people who disapprove of me and DARK OF NIGHT (and probably Jules Cassidy, too.  Let&#039;s be honest about what this is about, at least for some of these disproportionately angry folks) are a small portion of the online romance reading population.  (Talk about limited!)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would like to believe that she&#039;s merely misinformed about the people who dislike the book because seriously Dark of Night had little to do with Jules and Robin, the homosexual couple in the Troubleshooter series.  She did say that she never reads blogs or message boards and that is getting her information from other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-190872" rel="nofollow">Robin</a>: I expected the comment to be much worse, but yes, it does make me uncomfortable when authors marginalize a reader&#8217;s voice, impute motives behind a reader&#8217;s opinions (something readers get KILLED for doing), especially for some sexually distasteful motive; and suggest that people are stalking her around online and that only if you don&#8217;t like her or Jules could not like the book.  </p>
<p><a href="http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&#038;thread.id=4383&#038;view=by_date_ascending&#038;page=11" rel="nofollow">This is pretty bad:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>And I know that the people who disapprove of me and DARK OF NIGHT (and probably Jules Cassidy, too.  Let&#8217;s be honest about what this is about, at least for some of these disproportionately angry folks) are a small portion of the online romance reading population.  (Talk about limited!)</p></blockquote>
<p>I would like to believe that she&#8217;s merely misinformed about the people who dislike the book because seriously Dark of Night had little to do with Jules and Robin, the homosexual couple in the Troubleshooter series.  She did say that she never reads blogs or message boards and that is getting her information from other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt Brockmann&#039;s publisher will care one little bit what she says; they&#039;re too busy counting the money.

But as a reader with absolutely no investment in the series, I&#039;ve been reading her responses with an increasing feeling of horror.   And here&#039;s my question that would never be answered on that board:  if a fan goes out of her way to talk up, publicize, purchase, recommend, review, and otherwise rave over an author&#039;s books, spending hours upon hours in said activities, even on the author&#039;s own messageboard, does that count as cyberstalking?  

I really do get that when you pour all this energy into writing a book that even the most confident of authors can feel besieged by negative commentary.  But when will authors understand that they have the lion&#039;s share of the power in the relationship between themselves and readers, and that taking a hammer to a reader just comes across as unnecessary and often cruel overkill.  

From comments left at AAR, it seems Brockmann has changed her board and that some posters have been banned.  That&#039;s kind of interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt Brockmann&#8217;s publisher will care one little bit what she says; they&#8217;re too busy counting the money.</p>
<p>But as a reader with absolutely no investment in the series, I&#8217;ve been reading her responses with an increasing feeling of horror.   And here&#8217;s my question that would never be answered on that board:  if a fan goes out of her way to talk up, publicize, purchase, recommend, review, and otherwise rave over an author&#8217;s books, spending hours upon hours in said activities, even on the author&#8217;s own messageboard, does that count as cyberstalking?  </p>
<p>I really do get that when you pour all this energy into writing a book that even the most confident of authors can feel besieged by negative commentary.  But when will authors understand that they have the lion&#8217;s share of the power in the relationship between themselves and readers, and that taking a hammer to a reader just comes across as unnecessary and often cruel overkill.  </p>
<p>From comments left at AAR, it seems Brockmann has changed her board and that some posters have been banned.  That&#8217;s kind of interesting.</p>
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		<dc:creator>GrowlyCub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellie, yes, I just saw that too, and I think this is an illustration of two things:

1) the internet can be a real pitfall in navigating author-reader interaction

2) sometimes authors really should take a step back and wonder if this kind of response, as true as it may be to their feelings at the time, is a professional way to present themselves to all their readers.

Maybe the number of people who dislike DoN is really as small as Brockmann implies (I tend to doubt that, I&#039;m still stuck at chapter 2), but such comments may turn off readers who liked DoN because they are in such bad taste.

I was very taken aback by this posting and I cannot believe that her publisher will be happy when they see it.

Kind of sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellie, yes, I just saw that too, and I think this is an illustration of two things:</p>
<p>1) the internet can be a real pitfall in navigating author-reader interaction</p>
<p>2) sometimes authors really should take a step back and wonder if this kind of response, as true as it may be to their feelings at the time, is a professional way to present themselves to all their readers.</p>
<p>Maybe the number of people who dislike DoN is really as small as Brockmann implies (I tend to doubt that, I&#8217;m still stuck at chapter 2), but such comments may turn off readers who liked DoN because they are in such bad taste.</p>
<p>I was very taken aback by this posting and I cannot believe that her publisher will be happy when they see it.</p>
<p>Kind of sad.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to stay out of this, and only made a comment as to the book itself on the thread from Jane&#039;s review.  SB used to be one of my favorite authors.  I&#039;ve become disenchanted with the past few books as story arcs became longer and more of them and the books IMO became less and less realistic.  At the same time the vitriol and the parsing of everything SB has ever wrote IMO has gotten out of hand.  I only mention this to say I have no truck in this.  I am no longer enthralled by SB&#039;s books as I once was, but I do not feel angry or betrayed by her.

However, I think SB&#039;s comments tonight on the B &amp; N board crossed the line. http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&amp;thread.id=4383&amp;view=by_date_ascending&amp;page=11.  She is implying in the middle of her first post on page 11 that the people who posted their anger at her did so because they&#039;re homophobic.  I have no idea if they are or not, but to deflect the anger at her writing decisions into that the angry people are prejudiced is beyond the pale.  It does a disservice to the real problems that result from prejudice and homophobia to accuse people of that as a deflection of criticism.  I agree with Jane that SB is in a tough position answering those questions, but accusing those that asked the questions of homophobia is not an appropriate response.  At all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to stay out of this, and only made a comment as to the book itself on the thread from Jane&#8217;s review.  SB used to be one of my favorite authors.  I&#8217;ve become disenchanted with the past few books as story arcs became longer and more of them and the books IMO became less and less realistic.  At the same time the vitriol and the parsing of everything SB has ever wrote IMO has gotten out of hand.  I only mention this to say I have no truck in this.  I am no longer enthralled by SB&#8217;s books as I once was, but I do not feel angry or betrayed by her.</p>
<p>However, I think SB&#8217;s comments tonight on the B &amp; N board crossed the line. <a href="http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&#038;thread.id=4383&#038;view=by_date_ascending&#038;page=11" rel="nofollow">http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&#038;thread.id=4383&#038;view=by_date_ascending&#038;page=11</a>.  She is implying in the middle of her first post on page 11 that the people who posted their anger at her did so because they&#8217;re homophobic.  I have no idea if they are or not, but to deflect the anger at her writing decisions into that the angry people are prejudiced is beyond the pale.  It does a disservice to the real problems that result from prejudice and homophobia to accuse people of that as a deflection of criticism.  I agree with Jane that SB is in a tough position answering those questions, but accusing those that asked the questions of homophobia is not an appropriate response.  At all.</p>
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		<dc:creator>library addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know we don&#039;t agree, but I appreciate that the &quot;conversation&quot; here as been respectful. 

I think mocking her readers and offering a book to the first person who &quot;posts a YouTube video of a weeping reading sobbing &quot;Leave Suz alone!!!&quot;&quot; is over the line.  Even if some of the posters aren&#039;t being as respectful as they should is that really an excuse for Suz to sink to the same level?  

Even the fans who love the book are asking if it is really a HEA for Decker &amp; Tracy, so the ending of DON wasn&#039;t as obvious as she may have thought it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we don&#8217;t agree, but I appreciate that the &#8220;conversation&#8221; here as been respectful. </p>
<p>I think mocking her readers and offering a book to the first person who &#8220;posts a YouTube video of a weeping reading sobbing &#8220;Leave Suz alone!!!&#8221;" is over the line.  Even if some of the posters aren&#8217;t being as respectful as they should is that really an excuse for Suz to sink to the same level?  </p>
<p>Even the fans who love the book are asking if it is really a HEA for Decker &amp; Tracy, so the ending of DON wasn&#8217;t as obvious as she may have thought it was.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Frantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190513&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;library addict&lt;/a&gt;: Not to start the whole thing over again, but *I* feel that she is indeed being respectful both to her readers and fans AND to herself. *I* was thoroughly annoyed by the tone of some of the questions on the Q&amp;A (just reading it a few minutes ago), considering that the people writing them KNEW that they were writing to Brockmann herself. And I feel that Brockmann is being respectful to those who are being respectful to her and that she is explaining herself in a logical, reasonable, respectful way. Would the people *asking* these questions do so in this way if talking with Brockmann face-to-face? The problem with online communication...tone of voice...smiles and gestures...yada yada yada--we all know how that one goes, right?

But more importantly, we obviously have to agree to disagree, here and in the other debates about this topic. I hope that can be done in a respectful manner, but I do think it&#039;s obvious that we&#039;re never going to agree on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-190513" rel="nofollow">library addict</a>: Not to start the whole thing over again, but *I* feel that she is indeed being respectful both to her readers and fans AND to herself. *I* was thoroughly annoyed by the tone of some of the questions on the Q&amp;A (just reading it a few minutes ago), considering that the people writing them KNEW that they were writing to Brockmann herself. And I feel that Brockmann is being respectful to those who are being respectful to her and that she is explaining herself in a logical, reasonable, respectful way. Would the people *asking* these questions do so in this way if talking with Brockmann face-to-face? The problem with online communication&#8230;tone of voice&#8230;smiles and gestures&#8230;yada yada yada&#8211;we all know how that one goes, right?</p>
<p>But more importantly, we obviously have to agree to disagree, here and in the other debates about this topic. I hope that can be done in a respectful manner, but I do think it&#8217;s obvious that we&#8217;re never going to agree on this issue.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;comment-#190513&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;library addict&lt;/a&gt; I have to confess that it&#039;s hard for me to measure those comments because many of the comments are &quot;hey, why didn&#039;t you do this instead of what you did do&quot; which Brockmann is answering but that has to be difficult.  

I know we address our letters to the authors here, but that&#039;s a construct.  We don&#039;t really mean for authors to read them.  

I don&#039;t want to be a Brockmann apologist, but I feel like she&#039;s in a tough position.  She probably loves her book and seeing people not happy with the way that she wrote it out might be difficult for her to respond to.  (Again, I&#039;m speculating here. Have no insider knowledge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="comment-#190513" rel="nofollow">library addict</a> I have to confess that it&#8217;s hard for me to measure those comments because many of the comments are &#8220;hey, why didn&#8217;t you do this instead of what you did do&#8221; which Brockmann is answering but that has to be difficult.  </p>
<p>I know we address our letters to the authors here, but that&#8217;s a construct.  We don&#8217;t really mean for authors to read them.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to be a Brockmann apologist, but I feel like she&#8217;s in a tough position.  She probably loves her book and seeing people not happy with the way that she wrote it out might be difficult for her to respond to.  (Again, I&#8217;m speculating here. Have no insider knowledge).</p>
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		<title>By: library addict</title>
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		<dc:creator>library addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane and SarahF,
I am curious if you still feel Suz has &quot;nothing but respect&quot; for her readers given some of the answers she is giving at her B&amp;N Q&amp;A. 
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&amp;thread.id=4383&amp;view=by_date_ascending&amp;page=1

I realize I am considered on the wrong &quot;side&quot; of the whole triangle, but her answer to Alyssa21 in particular seems condescending and dismissive.

Obviously she isn&#039;t as talented at foreshadowing as she seems to think if so many readers still expected a Sophia &amp; Decker HEA after so many books.   

I foolishly thought she would take the opportunity with the B&amp;N Q&amp;A to explain why she marketed Sophia &amp; Decker as a romantic couple and try to win back some of the fans she lost.  Instead we get &quot;I framed it to fit the boundaries of the romance genre&quot;  She could simply have left them off the poll altogether.  

I am amazed (and not in a good way) at some of her responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane and SarahF,<br />
I am curious if you still feel Suz has &#8220;nothing but respect&#8221; for her readers given some of the answers she is giving at her B&amp;N Q&amp;A.<br />
<a href="http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&#038;thread.id=4383&#038;view=by_date_ascending&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=CenterStage&#038;thread.id=4383&#038;view=by_date_ascending&#038;page=1</a></p>
<p>I realize I am considered on the wrong &#8220;side&#8221; of the whole triangle, but her answer to Alyssa21 in particular seems condescending and dismissive.</p>
<p>Obviously she isn&#8217;t as talented at foreshadowing as she seems to think if so many readers still expected a Sophia &amp; Decker HEA after so many books.   </p>
<p>I foolishly thought she would take the opportunity with the B&amp;N Q&amp;A to explain why she marketed Sophia &amp; Decker as a romantic couple and try to win back some of the fans she lost.  Instead we get &#8220;I framed it to fit the boundaries of the romance genre&#8221;  She could simply have left them off the poll altogether.  </p>
<p>I am amazed (and not in a good way) at some of her responses.</p>
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		<title>By: artie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the ending was awful</description>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi....
I do agree that Brockmann is a super talented lady and spins an amazing tale...however, I am one of those diehard Sophia/Decker fans and I bought the book without reading any spoilers.  I have since returned it because I found the coupling so disturbing since I was expecting something else.  I read romance because I like to have the feeling that my couples finally got together after some conflict and knowing there won&#039;t be any stressful surprises.  So once again, the story is a great one, but I felt devastated reading it....not happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;.<br />
I do agree that Brockmann is a super talented lady and spins an amazing tale&#8230;however, I am one of those diehard Sophia/Decker fans and I bought the book without reading any spoilers.  I have since returned it because I found the coupling so disturbing since I was expecting something else.  I read romance because I like to have the feeling that my couples finally got together after some conflict and knowing there won&#8217;t be any stressful surprises.  So once again, the story is a great one, but I felt devastated reading it&#8230;.not happy.</p>
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		<title>By: FD</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I was always vaguely skeeved at it anyway; ignoring Decker for the moment, Sophia has been tremendously traumatized and lived in what sounds like dangerous situations for most of her life before that.  I never thought she was in a healthy place as a heroine and had figured we&#039;d have at least one or two books dealing with that.  I didn&#039;t feel her attitude to relationships / sex was likely to have been entirely healthy &lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt; she was betrayed, failed her loved one, bereaved, raped, tortured, enslaved, on the run, and sank herself to the point of attempting to kill someone who was trying to help her.

I figured it was partly rescuer&#039;s syndrome, partly idealization, partly guilt, partly attraction, and partly her needing to redeem how damaged she was by making the terrible beginning to their &quot;relationship&quot; a positive outcome.  Having since reread the books, they don&#039;t interact, they don&#039;t really know much about each other - their circle / avoid / repeat pattern came across more as obsession than anything.  Seriously, she says she loves Deck, but what exactly she loves about him, and on what evidence, I could never figure out.

Decker I actually found quite intriguing - we&#039;re rarely in his head, and when we are, we don&#039;t learn a lot about him.   If I compare him to Nash, who is more generally supposed in the series to have issues, I actually think Decker is worse.  Nash has made an attempt at moving on, and has committed himself to Tess. Yes, he&#039;s holding off on the marriage, but I believe that&#039;s mostly due to fear re the AlphabetAgencyOfDoom, and lingering issues with trust and asking for help.  Which is understandable.
Decker now - he&#039;s completely shut down and his self image? Eeep.  I really want to know his backstory - why is he so incredibly hard on himself, and why is he such a boyscout?  Why does he need that perfection so intensely? We never see him at all outside of crises, and don&#039;t see his &#039;life&#039; at all. Family? Friends? Hobbies? Big blank.  At least Nash &lt;em&gt;dates!&lt;/em&gt;  He comes across as pretty self involved and damaged and I was looking forward to seeing why exactly he is the way he is.  I was never sure he would go the distance with Sophia - too much baggage, and not enough willingness to reach out on either party.  We&#039;ve seen fantasy romances fail before  - see Wes / Lana.  I thought they were going to get a happy ending at one point, but no.   Did that bother anyone?  We had a couple of books worth of set up for that non event if I recall rightly.

Gina and Eden are mentioned upthread by someone as heroines whose trauma is &quot;written off&quot;. I disagree;  at this point anyway, as future events could prove me wrong.   
Although Gina is shown as suffering major trauma, her life history is otherwise normal, she has a loving family, an education and she also has several years of therapy to boot.   I could accept her HEA, she&#039;s gotten to a point where I can accept it.
In contrast, Eden has a unpleasant childhood,  no education, sweet FA in the way of family support, (anyone else want to slap her brother? Egads!) a deeply traumatic adolescence and is quite understandably very effed up.  I thought Brockman did a good job of showing just how effed up, using the sex scenes she gets into with Izzy to demonstrate that though physically he&#039;s pushing all the right buttons, and his actions ought to be reassuring, she&#039;s mentally and emotionally unable to handle or even understand the concept of a relationship based on anything other than ego stroke / sex / mutual back scratching / what&#039;s in it for me.  Hence her complete inability to be honest with him.    Will they end up as a couple?  I think it likely, but damn, does she have some healing to do.    

&lt;strong&gt;Leigh&lt;/strong&gt; - I feel the difference between Eden / Izzy  and Decker / Sophia is that although some of Izzy&#039;s actions are a shade less ethical than they could be, he&#039;s not that broken up about it - he accepts his less-than-perfect nature in way that Decker is just not set up to do.   Eden also is shown as being somewhat less morally constrained than Sophia, and although she has mondo major issues, her attitude to their sexual involvement is more of a &quot;I don&#039;t want to be beholden, and I have nothing else, and sex is a good a payment as any,&quot; than the &quot;Oh god I don&#039;t want to DIE,&quot; attitude as evinced by Sophia.  Same deal with Robin / Adam, they (and the readers) react the way they are set up emotionally to react.
 Different dynamic and really neat examples of how on the surface similar incidents can affect different people in such very different ways.     Basically, it&#039;s good characterisation.

The comments about the nature of a romance were utterly fascinating - I had no idea that the genre was considered to be so stratified and rule-bound, outside of categories.  

For me, it ceases to be a romance when it stops being primarily about the evolution and growth of a character in relation to other characters in a emotional  and or sexual manner.   So a novel can have a love story without being a romance.

I&#039;d still call J.D Robb romances - they&#039;re about Eve&#039;s emotional growth and her deepening relationship with Roarke, even after they&#039;re married.
I&#039;d call the Bridges of Madison County a romance - even though she doesn&#039;t get her HEA with him.
I&#039;d call Lois McMaster Bujold&#039;s Chalion series romances - the heroes  /  heroines grow and change in relation to their partners.
I still see Brockman as romance, because although there is a strong suspense / action plot in her books, the primary focus is still about the characters relationships.  You could use other vehicles for the action / suspense bits, and you&#039;d still have a viable emotional journey there. IMO, anyway.

I personally don&#039;t feel that a romance has to take place over one novel.  I don&#039;t feel that the successful depiction of one romantic relationship means that it&#039;s not OK to show a previous or a future successful romantic relationship.  I can believe in people falling into, and out of love thanks, and also believe that the new love is not necessarily less than the first.    I can deal with some chars having HFN&#039;s, as you know, even in more conventional romances not all characters have to be solidly in love and happy.  Or even survive to the end.

One of the things that I like about Brockman is that she shows her characters making mistakes, screwing things up and dealing with consequences.  And I like that things are not always tied up in a neat little bow at the end of one novel, waiting for the next little self-contained episode.  Life ain&#039;t like that and it adds to the suspension of disbelief for me to have her handle it that way.    I don&#039;t feel betrayed by it, and I don&#039;t mind that, there&#039;s emotional backstory for Decker / Sophia with no payoff, because there&#039;s backstory there for Dave / Sophia too.  It just wasn&#039;t presented as romantic.

I dunno, I&#039;m just not bothered by the weight of expectations as some commenters have been - I gather the feeling is that they&#039;ve been bait &amp; switched?  I can kinda understand that - there&#039;s only one series where that&#039;s hit me - the Anita Blake series.   I gave up reading after she intro&#039;d the Micah character as the primary romantic relationship.  I felt as many do about this, betrayed by the author.  The difference is, I gave up &lt;strong&gt;after&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;d read the next couple of books involving him, and because the 180 the character and series focus had made had no emotional or logical continuity, and the author had completely failed to &#039;sell&#039; the change in romantic leads to me.
Ultimately, it depends on how well the author writes it. LKH failed, Brockman may or may not succeed, but I will be reserving judgement till I actually read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I was always vaguely skeeved at it anyway; ignoring Decker for the moment, Sophia has been tremendously traumatized and lived in what sounds like dangerous situations for most of her life before that.  I never thought she was in a healthy place as a heroine and had figured we&#8217;d have at least one or two books dealing with that.  I didn&#8217;t feel her attitude to relationships / sex was likely to have been entirely healthy <em>before</em> she was betrayed, failed her loved one, bereaved, raped, tortured, enslaved, on the run, and sank herself to the point of attempting to kill someone who was trying to help her.</p>
<p>I figured it was partly rescuer&#8217;s syndrome, partly idealization, partly guilt, partly attraction, and partly her needing to redeem how damaged she was by making the terrible beginning to their &#8220;relationship&#8221; a positive outcome.  Having since reread the books, they don&#8217;t interact, they don&#8217;t really know much about each other &#8211; their circle / avoid / repeat pattern came across more as obsession than anything.  Seriously, she says she loves Deck, but what exactly she loves about him, and on what evidence, I could never figure out.</p>
<p>Decker I actually found quite intriguing &#8211; we&#8217;re rarely in his head, and when we are, we don&#8217;t learn a lot about him.   If I compare him to Nash, who is more generally supposed in the series to have issues, I actually think Decker is worse.  Nash has made an attempt at moving on, and has committed himself to Tess. Yes, he&#8217;s holding off on the marriage, but I believe that&#8217;s mostly due to fear re the AlphabetAgencyOfDoom, and lingering issues with trust and asking for help.  Which is understandable.<br />
Decker now &#8211; he&#8217;s completely shut down and his self image? Eeep.  I really want to know his backstory &#8211; why is he so incredibly hard on himself, and why is he such a boyscout?  Why does he need that perfection so intensely? We never see him at all outside of crises, and don&#8217;t see his &#8216;life&#8217; at all. Family? Friends? Hobbies? Big blank.  At least Nash <em>dates!</em>  He comes across as pretty self involved and damaged and I was looking forward to seeing why exactly he is the way he is.  I was never sure he would go the distance with Sophia &#8211; too much baggage, and not enough willingness to reach out on either party.  We&#8217;ve seen fantasy romances fail before  &#8211; see Wes / Lana.  I thought they were going to get a happy ending at one point, but no.   Did that bother anyone?  We had a couple of books worth of set up for that non event if I recall rightly.</p>
<p>Gina and Eden are mentioned upthread by someone as heroines whose trauma is &#8220;written off&#8221;. I disagree;  at this point anyway, as future events could prove me wrong.<br />
Although Gina is shown as suffering major trauma, her life history is otherwise normal, she has a loving family, an education and she also has several years of therapy to boot.   I could accept her HEA, she&#8217;s gotten to a point where I can accept it.<br />
In contrast, Eden has a unpleasant childhood,  no education, sweet FA in the way of family support, (anyone else want to slap her brother? Egads!) a deeply traumatic adolescence and is quite understandably very effed up.  I thought Brockman did a good job of showing just how effed up, using the sex scenes she gets into with Izzy to demonstrate that though physically he&#8217;s pushing all the right buttons, and his actions ought to be reassuring, she&#8217;s mentally and emotionally unable to handle or even understand the concept of a relationship based on anything other than ego stroke / sex / mutual back scratching / what&#8217;s in it for me.  Hence her complete inability to be honest with him.    Will they end up as a couple?  I think it likely, but damn, does she have some healing to do.    </p>
<p><strong>Leigh</strong> &#8211; I feel the difference between Eden / Izzy  and Decker / Sophia is that although some of Izzy&#8217;s actions are a shade less ethical than they could be, he&#8217;s not that broken up about it &#8211; he accepts his less-than-perfect nature in way that Decker is just not set up to do.   Eden also is shown as being somewhat less morally constrained than Sophia, and although she has mondo major issues, her attitude to their sexual involvement is more of a &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be beholden, and I have nothing else, and sex is a good a payment as any,&#8221; than the &#8220;Oh god I don&#8217;t want to DIE,&#8221; attitude as evinced by Sophia.  Same deal with Robin / Adam, they (and the readers) react the way they are set up emotionally to react.<br />
 Different dynamic and really neat examples of how on the surface similar incidents can affect different people in such very different ways.     Basically, it&#8217;s good characterisation.</p>
<p>The comments about the nature of a romance were utterly fascinating &#8211; I had no idea that the genre was considered to be so stratified and rule-bound, outside of categories.  </p>
<p>For me, it ceases to be a romance when it stops being primarily about the evolution and growth of a character in relation to other characters in a emotional  and or sexual manner.   So a novel can have a love story without being a romance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still call J.D Robb romances &#8211; they&#8217;re about Eve&#8217;s emotional growth and her deepening relationship with Roarke, even after they&#8217;re married.<br />
I&#8217;d call the Bridges of Madison County a romance &#8211; even though she doesn&#8217;t get her HEA with him.<br />
I&#8217;d call Lois McMaster Bujold&#8217;s Chalion series romances &#8211; the heroes  /  heroines grow and change in relation to their partners.<br />
I still see Brockman as romance, because although there is a strong suspense / action plot in her books, the primary focus is still about the characters relationships.  You could use other vehicles for the action / suspense bits, and you&#8217;d still have a viable emotional journey there. IMO, anyway.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t feel that a romance has to take place over one novel.  I don&#8217;t feel that the successful depiction of one romantic relationship means that it&#8217;s not OK to show a previous or a future successful romantic relationship.  I can believe in people falling into, and out of love thanks, and also believe that the new love is not necessarily less than the first.    I can deal with some chars having HFN&#8217;s, as you know, even in more conventional romances not all characters have to be solidly in love and happy.  Or even survive to the end.</p>
<p>One of the things that I like about Brockman is that she shows her characters making mistakes, screwing things up and dealing with consequences.  And I like that things are not always tied up in a neat little bow at the end of one novel, waiting for the next little self-contained episode.  Life ain&#8217;t like that and it adds to the suspension of disbelief for me to have her handle it that way.    I don&#8217;t feel betrayed by it, and I don&#8217;t mind that, there&#8217;s emotional backstory for Decker / Sophia with no payoff, because there&#8217;s backstory there for Dave / Sophia too.  It just wasn&#8217;t presented as romantic.</p>
<p>I dunno, I&#8217;m just not bothered by the weight of expectations as some commenters have been &#8211; I gather the feeling is that they&#8217;ve been bait &amp; switched?  I can kinda understand that &#8211; there&#8217;s only one series where that&#8217;s hit me &#8211; the Anita Blake series.   I gave up reading after she intro&#8217;d the Micah character as the primary romantic relationship.  I felt as many do about this, betrayed by the author.  The difference is, I gave up <strong>after</strong> I&#8217;d read the next couple of books involving him, and because the 180 the character and series focus had made had no emotional or logical continuity, and the author had completely failed to &#8216;sell&#8217; the change in romantic leads to me.<br />
Ultimately, it depends on how well the author writes it. LKH failed, Brockman may or may not succeed, but I will be reserving judgement till I actually read it.</p>
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