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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW: Son of the Sea by Nancy Holder</title>
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		<title>By: gn</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-241240</link>
		<dc:creator>gn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 12:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jia
I found your review and subsequent comments by your readers to be in general really helpful - specifically about reality and world-building.

thanks
gn

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jia<br />
I found your review and subsequent comments by your readers to be in general really helpful &#8211; specifically about reality and world-building.</p>
<p>thanks<br />
gn</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170176</link>
		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The spoiler tags do work for me in the actual posts, but as black stuff that covers up the letters, not as the little show/hide arrow. It&#039;s only in the comments that they don&#039;t work at all.

My browser is Internet Explorer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s so strange.  I used to get the black-out text but it changed to this when Jane updated WordPress and its plug-ins.  I&#039;ve tried Internet Explorer and Firefox, and the show/hide works for me in both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The spoiler tags do work for me in the actual posts, but as black stuff that covers up the letters, not as the little show/hide arrow. It&#39;s only in the comments that they don&#39;t work at all.</p>
<p>My browser is Internet Explorer.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s so strange.  I used to get the black-out text but it changed to this when Jane updated WordPress and its plug-ins.  I&#8217;ve tried Internet Explorer and Firefox, and the show/hide works for me in both.</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170175</link>
		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Has no one seen _Splash_?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure.  But why should we assume that merman can shift between human and mer form just because one movie used that concept?  In &lt;em&gt;The Little Mermaid&lt;/em&gt;, the mermaid had to give up her voice to the witch to gain human form.  She couldn&#039;t do it at will.  Different story, different mythos.  If a story depends on another work of fiction to establish its worldbuilding, that&#039;s derivative and lazy writing.  Readers can, and should, expect more than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has no one seen _Splash_?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure.  But why should we assume that merman can shift between human and mer form just because one movie used that concept?  In <em>The Little Mermaid</em>, the mermaid had to give up her voice to the witch to gain human form.  She couldn&#8217;t do it at will.  Different story, different mythos.  If a story depends on another work of fiction to establish its worldbuilding, that&#8217;s derivative and lazy writing.  Readers can, and should, expect more than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170140</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually I thought the first was okay, the second was good and I couldn&#039;t get past the second chapter of the third one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry Jayne!  And thanks for the correction.  My memory&#039;s not what it used to be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually I thought the first was okay, the second was good and I couldn&#39;t get past the second chapter of the third one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry Jayne!  And thanks for the correction.  My memory&#8217;s not what it used to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Janine: I&#039;m really sorry the spoiler tags don&#039;t work for you. You never got them to work in the actual posts either, right? What browser are you using?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The spoiler tags do work for me in the actual posts, but as black stuff that covers up the letters, not as the little show/hide arrow.  It&#039;s only in the comments that they don&#039;t work at all. 

My browser is Internet Explorer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Janine: I&#39;m really sorry the spoiler tags don&#39;t work for you. You never got them to work in the actual posts either, right? What browser are you using?</p></blockquote>
<p>The spoiler tags do work for me in the actual posts, but as black stuff that covers up the letters, not as the little show/hide arrow.  It&#8217;s only in the comments that they don&#8217;t work at all. </p>
<p>My browser is Internet Explorer.</p>
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		<title>By: SonomaLass</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170106</link>
		<dc:creator>SonomaLass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;all I could think of was: do they serve fish?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Suzanne, I imagine that fish aren&#039;t served there, for health reasons -- that &quot;no shirt, no shoes, no service&quot; thing seems pretty widespread in the restaurant industry!  (Sorry, could not resist)

Jia, thanks for the spoiler.  I am relieved to know that they aren&#039;t doing it fish-style (as MB says, totally unromantic) or with the fishy characteristics that K.Z. so kindly described (ew, just EW).  Erik turning humanoid is probably much more pleasant, although it sounds like I still wouldn&#039;t enjoy it, due to the level of coercion.  My boat, force does not float it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>all I could think of was: do they serve fish?</p></blockquote>
<p>Suzanne, I imagine that fish aren&#8217;t served there, for health reasons &#8212; that &#8220;no shirt, no shoes, no service&#8221; thing seems pretty widespread in the restaurant industry!  (Sorry, could not resist)</p>
<p>Jia, thanks for the spoiler.  I am relieved to know that they aren&#8217;t doing it fish-style (as MB says, totally unromantic) or with the fishy characteristics that K.Z. so kindly described (ew, just EW).  Erik turning humanoid is probably much more pleasant, although it sounds like I still wouldn&#8217;t enjoy it, due to the level of coercion.  My boat, force does not float it.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170101</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you mentioned that she owned a restaurant all I could think of was: do they serve fish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you mentioned that she owned a restaurant all I could think of was: do they serve fish?</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170093</link>
		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends.  It could be saved if there is eating of merfolk flesh and someone becomes immortal.</description>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jia...I suppose this harpoons my novel about the merman sushi chef who is tricked into filleting his girlfriend by the Evil Merman Overlord and travels the world seek dissolution and revenge until the sexy ichthyologist gives him a new reason to live... ::sigh::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jia&#8230;I suppose this harpoons my novel about the merman sushi chef who is tricked into filleting his girlfriend by the Evil Merman Overlord and travels the world seek dissolution and revenge until the sexy ichthyologist gives him a new reason to live&#8230; ::sigh::</p>
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		<title>By: Kalen Hughes</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170069</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalen Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think what annoys me most about mer romances is that the authors put so little thought into convincing world-building! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This problem isn&#039;t confined to the mer people, plenty of vampires, were-creatures, witches, and demons of all kinds share this affliction. Consistent laws/rules that remain true throughout a series and have some kind of functioning logic behind them aren&#039;t just a necessity in books shelved in the science-fiction/fantasy section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think what annoys me most about mer romances is that the authors put so little thought into convincing world-building! </p></blockquote>
<p>This problem isn&#39;t confined to the mer people, plenty of vampires, were-creatures, witches, and demons of all kinds share this affliction. Consistent laws/rules that remain true throughout a series and have some kind of functioning logic behind them aren&#39;t just a necessity in books shelved in the science-fiction/fantasy section.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;MB, have you tried Jessica Bryan&#039;s merfolk trilogy? I haven&#039;t read them myself but I have heard many good things and if I recall correctly, Jayne read and enjoyed them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Actually I thought the first was okay, the second was good and I couldn&#039;t get past the second chapter of the third one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>MB, have you tried Jessica Bryan&#39;s merfolk trilogy? I haven&#39;t read them myself but I have heard many good things and if I recall correctly, Jayne read and enjoyed them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually I thought the first was okay, the second was good and I couldn&#8217;t get past the second chapter of the third one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Barbosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Barbosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>::blinks::

Has no one seen _Splash_?</description>
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<p>Has no one seen _Splash_?</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170063</link>
		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janine: I&#039;m really sorry the spoiler tags don&#039;t work for you.  You never got them to work in the actual posts either, right?  What browser are you using?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry. Was that a buzz-kill?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No.  It did, however, make me laugh a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janine: I&#8217;m really sorry the spoiler tags don&#8217;t work for you.  You never got them to work in the actual posts either, right?  What browser are you using?</p>
<blockquote><p>Sorry. Was that a buzz-kill?</p></blockquote>
<p>No.  It did, however, make me laugh a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170059</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what annoys me most about mer romances is that the authors put so little thought into convincing world-building!  They are pretty pathetic in that everything revolves around magic.  No real thought is put into creating a real and interesting and complicated &quot;world&quot;.

I want someone of the calibre of Lois McMaster Bujold or Sharon Shinn or Sheri Tepper to take something like this and run.  I&#039;m not satisfied with the contrived and implausible stuff I&#039;m seeing.

Interestingly enough, the best example of this I can give was not a romance.  It was a SF novel where a young paraplegic was implanted into another galactic species infant in order to basically spy for the humans.  The extra-terrestial was a manta-like creature that &quot;swam&quot; through deep space in atmospheres humans and their spaceships could not withstand.  It was a fascinating, fully-developed world with lots of character development.  (Caught between two species, divided loyalties, danger, betrayal, etc.!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what annoys me most about mer romances is that the authors put so little thought into convincing world-building!  They are pretty pathetic in that everything revolves around magic.  No real thought is put into creating a real and interesting and complicated &#8220;world&#8221;.</p>
<p>I want someone of the calibre of Lois McMaster Bujold or Sharon Shinn or Sheri Tepper to take something like this and run.  I&#8217;m not satisfied with the contrived and implausible stuff I&#8217;m seeing.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, the best example of this I can give was not a romance.  It was a SF novel where a young paraplegic was implanted into another galactic species infant in order to basically spy for the humans.  The extra-terrestial was a manta-like creature that &#8220;swam&#8221; through deep space in atmospheres humans and their spaceships could not withstand.  It was a fascinating, fully-developed world with lots of character development.  (Caught between two species, divided loyalties, danger, betrayal, etc.!)</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170055</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janine, no I haven&#039;t.  I&#039;ll go take a look at them.</description>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170053</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, have you tried Jessica Bryan&#039;s merfolk trilogy?  I haven&#039;t read them myself but I have heard many good things and if I recall correctly, Jayne read and enjoyed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, have you tried Jessica Bryan&#8217;s merfolk trilogy?  I haven&#8217;t read them myself but I have heard many good things and if I recall correctly, Jayne read and enjoyed them.</p>
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		<title>By: REVIEW: Sea Fever by Virginia Kantra &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</title>
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		<dc:creator>REVIEW: Sea Fever by Virginia Kantra &#124; Dear Author: Romance Book Reviews, Author Interviews, and Commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thought it would be kind of fun to run this review after Jia&#8217;s wherein she expresses some, um, discomfort at merpeople as main characters in a romance. While I have not read many books about merpeople, I can say during [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thought it would be kind of fun to run this review after Jia&#8217;s wherein she expresses some, um, discomfort at merpeople as main characters in a romance. While I have not read many books about merpeople, I can say during [...]</p>
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		<title>By: K. Z. Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Z. Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mercritter concept does sound lovely at first -- the ocean is mysterious and alluring; fish are lithe, graceful creatures -- until one starts thinking about the scales, the slime, the smell, the &quot;where the hell is your weiner and is &lt;em&gt;it&lt;/em&gt; scaly and smelly?&quot;

Whoa.  (Sorry.  Was that a buzz-kill?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mercritter concept does sound lovely at first &#8212; the ocean is mysterious and alluring; fish are lithe, graceful creatures &#8212; until one starts thinking about the scales, the slime, the smell, the &#8220;where the hell is your weiner and is <em>it</em> scaly and smelly?&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoa.  (Sorry.  Was that a buzz-kill?)</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I am fascinated by the ocean and ocean life, I love the idea of a Mer Romance, but I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever run across a good one.  I keep trying, but no luck so far.  Even Soul Song didn&#039;t do much for me.

...The practicality in me just can&#039;t get over my common sense.  After all, if the the bottom half IS a fish, shouldn&#039;t sex be the fish way???  I.e, she lays the eggs, and he swims over them and fertilizes them?  (Not very romantic, right?)  It makes me laugh!

Unless, of course you &quot;do it&quot; like some sharks or even snakes.  But the idea of shark-like skin and tail takes the bloom off for me as well.

So, I&#039;m still hoping someone will come up with a good one some time, but I&#039;m not really on the edge of my seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I am fascinated by the ocean and ocean life, I love the idea of a Mer Romance, but I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever run across a good one.  I keep trying, but no luck so far.  Even Soul Song didn&#8217;t do much for me.</p>
<p>&#8230;The practicality in me just can&#8217;t get over my common sense.  After all, if the the bottom half IS a fish, shouldn&#8217;t sex be the fish way???  I.e, she lays the eggs, and he swims over them and fertilizes them?  (Not very romantic, right?)  It makes me laugh!</p>
<p>Unless, of course you &#8220;do it&#8221; like some sharks or even snakes.  But the idea of shark-like skin and tail takes the bloom off for me as well.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m still hoping someone will come up with a good one some time, but I&#8217;m not really on the edge of my seat.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/review-son-of-the-sea-by-nancy-holder/#comment-170040</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I logged into Wordpress to see if that will make it work.  And the answer is no.  Spoiler tags don&#039;t work for me in the comments.  I wonder if it&#039;s my browser.  I&#039;m jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I logged into WordPress to see if that will make it work.  And the answer is no.  Spoiler tags don&#8217;t work for me in the comments.  I wonder if it&#8217;s my browser.  I&#8217;m jealous.</p>
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