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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW:  Virgin Slave, Barbarian King by Louise Allen</title>
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		<title>By: lola_brown</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-201676</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 08:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved reading this book. From cover to finish i could&#039;nt put it down! I&#039;m fasinated by the language and how Allen weaved it into her story. Yes i did find a few things far fetched, like the cat fight and particularly the last chapter, but i think this just all adds to the stories charm. I&#039;ve read quite a few of Allen&#039;s books and I&#039;ve enjoyed each one of them. I love the wit that all the characters seem to have and to me that has been evident in each of the books I&#039;ve read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading this book. From cover to finish i could&#8217;nt put it down! I&#8217;m fasinated by the language and how Allen weaved it into her story. Yes i did find a few things far fetched, like the cat fight and particularly the last chapter, but i think this just all adds to the stories charm. I&#8217;ve read quite a few of Allen&#8217;s books and I&#8217;ve enjoyed each one of them. I love the wit that all the characters seem to have and to me that has been evident in each of the books I&#8217;ve read.</p>
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		<title>By: Lolloser</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-119725</link>
		<dc:creator>Lolloser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think there is much reason to waste one&#039;s time analysing pure crapola. 

Wulfric is ridiculous. Heroine is ridiculous. The style is passable at best. 

I only kinda sorta managed to sit through it because the plot is very similar to one in GRRM&#039;s &quot;ASOIAF&quot;. Except Martin isn&#039;t crappy author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think there is much reason to waste one&#8217;s time analysing pure crapola. </p>
<p>Wulfric is ridiculous. Heroine is ridiculous. The style is passable at best. </p>
<p>I only kinda sorta managed to sit through it because the plot is very similar to one in GRRM&#8217;s &#8220;ASOIAF&#8221;. Except Martin isn&#8217;t crappy author.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon C.</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117256</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this commentary is fascinating. Mostly, I thought the book was rather tepid, though the language thing did fascinate me as well and I also wondered where Allen got her sources for it. I think I&#039;d have liked to learn more about the setting from a couple of characters who weren&#039;t walking romance cliches, though. And, as I&#039;ve said elsewhere, I didn&#039;t like that Wulfric was such a saint, given that he was supposed to be, well, a barbarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this commentary is fascinating. Mostly, I thought the book was rather tepid, though the language thing did fascinate me as well and I also wondered where Allen got her sources for it. I think I&#8217;d have liked to learn more about the setting from a couple of characters who weren&#8217;t walking romance cliches, though. And, as I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, I didn&#8217;t like that Wulfric was such a saint, given that he was supposed to be, well, a barbarian.</p>
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		<title>By: talpianna</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117254</link>
		<dc:creator>talpianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sarah&lt;/b&gt; said: &lt;i&gt;Talk about TSTL-Waverley was the worst!!&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously you&#039;ve never encountered Darsie Latimer in &lt;b&gt;Redgauntlet.&lt;/b&gt;  But the book is worth reading for Alan Fairford, the &lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt; hero to my mind, who is semi-autobiographical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sarah</b> said: <i>Talk about TSTL-Waverley was the worst!!</i></p>
<p>Obviously you&#8217;ve never encountered Darsie Latimer in <b>Redgauntlet.</b>  But the book is worth reading for Alan Fairford, the <b>real</b> hero to my mind, who is semi-autobiographical.</p>
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		<title>By: hotflashes51</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117151</link>
		<dc:creator>hotflashes51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a kinda review...not really. It isn&#039;t analytical. In fact, it is barely intelligent, no big words whatsoever. 

Though I was curious, I couldn&#039;t force myself to buy this book. I hated the cover and the title. But if Bindle can write a feminist dissertation just by the blurb, hell I can certainly do mine solely by title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a kinda review&#8230;not really. It isn&#8217;t analytical. In fact, it is barely intelligent, no big words whatsoever. </p>
<p>Though I was curious, I couldn&#8217;t force myself to buy this book. I hated the cover and the title. But if Bindle can write a feminist dissertation just by the blurb, hell I can certainly do mine solely by title.</p>
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		<title>By: whey</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117143</link>
		<dc:creator>whey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried, I really tried, but I couldn&#039;t make it past the first chapter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried, I really tried, but I couldn&#8217;t make it past the first chapter.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara B.</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117128</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aoife said-
&quot;Feisty I cannot handle.&quot;  

Fiesty stops me dead in my tracks as a reader.  I wish publishers would put a warning label on books with fiesty/fiery/sassy heroines.  I&#039;d also like labels for the innocent/pure heroines.  Can&#039;t stand them either.

For bringing the fiesty, Virgin Slave, Barbarian King goes to the very bottom of my 1000+ ebook TBR &quot;stack&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aoife said-<br />
&#8220;Feisty I cannot handle.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Fiesty stops me dead in my tracks as a reader.  I wish publishers would put a warning label on books with fiesty/fiery/sassy heroines.  I&#8217;d also like labels for the innocent/pure heroines.  Can&#8217;t stand them either.</p>
<p>For bringing the fiesty, Virgin Slave, Barbarian King goes to the very bottom of my 1000+ ebook TBR &#8220;stack&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,
You bring up such a good point about review vs analysis.  I remember writing a thesis paper on &lt;em&gt;The Scarlet Letter&lt;/em&gt; in one of my English classes.  I loved reading and learning about all the symbolism and hidden meanings that could be found in the book, but I just cannot bring myself to just pick it up and read it for entertainment, it is not really my idea of a good time, KWIM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,<br />
You bring up such a good point about review vs analysis.  I remember writing a thesis paper on <em>The Scarlet Letter</em> in one of my English classes.  I loved reading and learning about all the symbolism and hidden meanings that could be found in the book, but I just cannot bring myself to just pick it up and read it for entertainment, it is not really my idea of a good time, KWIM?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Frantz</title>
		<link>http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/virgin-slave-barbarian-king/#comment-117043</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Frantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing this exercise has done for me is show me again how different are the tasks of reviewing and literary criticism.  I love your reviews and SB Sarah&#039;s review, and as I read them, I was thinking, &quot;Wow, I just couldn&#039;t do that!&quot;  I don&#039;t have the patience.  I don&#039;t know what it is about the review process that I wouldn&#039;t have patience for, when I can sit and analyze a book for hours (mine took about five hours), even when I don&#039;t like the book.

But there&#039;s the thing:  I can analyze a book I despise (did it for my dissertation!), because it&#039;s not about personal taste, but about what I can say about the book&#039;s _______ (construction, organization, historical context, images of gender/class/race, etc.).  When I was a baby graduate student, one of my advisers said &quot;It&#039;s not about whether I like the book, but whether I can say anything interesting about it&quot; and I was horrified!  Shocked, I tell you!  And I promised myself I&#039;d never get to that point.  But getting to that point was what learning how to be a literary critic was all about.  And I actually ended up arguing in my dissertation that analyzing books we dislike is *important* to understanding the culture we&#039;re trying to analyze.  It&#039;s just as important, in fact, as analyzing books we love.  I wrote a chapter of my dissertation on Hannah More&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Coelebs in Search of a Wife&lt;/i&gt; (1809), which is so boring and horrible that its Wikipedia page is a completely inaccurate stub.  But to me it was as important to analyze that book, precisely because it was the second-most best-selling book of 1809, as it was to analyze Jane Austen, who is absolutely a &quot;better&quot; writer.

As my husband just pointed out to me as I read this to him, you&#039;ll notice that Laura and Eric and I never said in our posts whether we liked the book.  That came up later in comments at our sites and yours.  Because in reading the book in order to analyze it, liking it or not was not part of my thought process.  In fact, I once read all of Sir Walter Scott&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Waverley&lt;/i&gt;, thoroughly enjoying it because I was reading it to analyze it and it was brilliantly rich ground, only to realize when I was done that I actually thoroughly *disliked* the book as entertainment.  Talk about TSTL--Waverley was the worst!!

So, even though Allen&#039;s book is by no means pure gold, I&#039;m hoping that people are learning that even the worst books (and I will say that VSBK is certainly *not* the worst of anything) can yield interesting insights about the romance genre, its conventions and forms and readers.

All this is to say that I really love reading the reviews here and at SBTB.  You do them so well, but it&#039;s a completely different skill from literary criticism (which is not to say you guys don&#039;t analyze--you do, but in totally different ways from what we do at TMT), and that fact boggles my mind every time I read a really good review, even (especially?) if the book is awful (or, more likely, just not brilliant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing this exercise has done for me is show me again how different are the tasks of reviewing and literary criticism.  I love your reviews and SB Sarah&#8217;s review, and as I read them, I was thinking, &#8220;Wow, I just couldn&#8217;t do that!&#8221;  I don&#8217;t have the patience.  I don&#8217;t know what it is about the review process that I wouldn&#8217;t have patience for, when I can sit and analyze a book for hours (mine took about five hours), even when I don&#8217;t like the book.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s the thing:  I can analyze a book I despise (did it for my dissertation!), because it&#8217;s not about personal taste, but about what I can say about the book&#8217;s _______ (construction, organization, historical context, images of gender/class/race, etc.).  When I was a baby graduate student, one of my advisers said &#8220;It&#8217;s not about whether I like the book, but whether I can say anything interesting about it&#8221; and I was horrified!  Shocked, I tell you!  And I promised myself I&#8217;d never get to that point.  But getting to that point was what learning how to be a literary critic was all about.  And I actually ended up arguing in my dissertation that analyzing books we dislike is *important* to understanding the culture we&#8217;re trying to analyze.  It&#8217;s just as important, in fact, as analyzing books we love.  I wrote a chapter of my dissertation on Hannah More&#8217;s <i>Coelebs in Search of a Wife</i> (1809), which is so boring and horrible that its Wikipedia page is a completely inaccurate stub.  But to me it was as important to analyze that book, precisely because it was the second-most best-selling book of 1809, as it was to analyze Jane Austen, who is absolutely a &#8220;better&#8221; writer.</p>
<p>As my husband just pointed out to me as I read this to him, you&#8217;ll notice that Laura and Eric and I never said in our posts whether we liked the book.  That came up later in comments at our sites and yours.  Because in reading the book in order to analyze it, liking it or not was not part of my thought process.  In fact, I once read all of Sir Walter Scott&#8217;s <i>Waverley</i>, thoroughly enjoying it because I was reading it to analyze it and it was brilliantly rich ground, only to realize when I was done that I actually thoroughly *disliked* the book as entertainment.  Talk about TSTL&#8211;Waverley was the worst!!</p>
<p>So, even though Allen&#8217;s book is by no means pure gold, I&#8217;m hoping that people are learning that even the worst books (and I will say that VSBK is certainly *not* the worst of anything) can yield interesting insights about the romance genre, its conventions and forms and readers.</p>
<p>All this is to say that I really love reading the reviews here and at SBTB.  You do them so well, but it&#8217;s a completely different skill from literary criticism (which is not to say you guys don&#8217;t analyze&#8211;you do, but in totally different ways from what we do at TMT), and that fact boggles my mind every time I read a really good review, even (especially?) if the book is awful (or, more likely, just not brilliant).</p>
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		<title>By: Aoife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aoife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reactions more or less mirrored mine, except you both actually finished this.  I may go back to try again, at some point, because I think my expectations were too high (I loved the idea of the time period, I had liked the other Louise Allen book I had read, etc)but I knew I was in trouble when Julia did the whole feisty thing on the first few pages.  Feisty I cannot handle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reactions more or less mirrored mine, except you both actually finished this.  I may go back to try again, at some point, because I think my expectations were too high (I loved the idea of the time period, I had liked the other Louise Allen book I had read, etc)but I knew I was in trouble when Julia did the whole feisty thing on the first few pages.  Feisty I cannot handle.</p>
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